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BigBitz: did they at least use the message I signed -- and made a typo in. Sigh.
BigBitz: I didn't interview, a friend asked me some information, I told him... ummJackson wasn't to allow CCN to use it.
mircea_popescu: yeah there needs to be another word for the stuff.
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate trinque 1 "<undata> look guys, I'm merely gay-for-trip-to-spacestation"
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mircea_popescu: ;;rated trinque
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gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask undata!~undata@gateway/tor-sasl/undata. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user mats_cd03 to user trinque: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mats_cd03&dest=trinque | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=trinque | Rated since: Mon Jun 16 17:53:48 2014
mats_cd03: ;;gettrust trinque
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mats_cd03: ;;get trinque
mircea_popescu: undata what's a trinque ?
mircea_popescu: chicks get anything they want these days huh.
undata: mircea_popescu: I am also trinque
mircea_popescu: suppose you get in that wot thingee eh.
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mircea_popescu: o yeah, totally forgot about that.
BigBitz: undata you know if you show tits that mircea_popescu will give you coin.
mircea_popescu: o, this just in from the PW:RN&other dox department
BigBitz: I'd rather be a chick than a cat, that's for sure.
BigBitz: has the Hawaii chick been to space yet?
mircea_popescu: undata you know there's worse things than being a chick.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm a sporting man. i like to lay the occasional bet.
undata: pow, right in the manhood
BingoBoingo: Ben Fox is usually the person with signal on this issue
mircea_popescu: jesus the prop market sucks in here!
undata: oh maybe the tip
undata: he takes me with him to uh... build space roobas or something, and the rest are left on earth which at that point is one big venezuela
undata: the fantasy for me goes something like emperor Musk establishing space stations throughout the asteroid belt for mining
mircea_popescu: maybe, if they look anything like the qntra gurlz.
undata: the huddled useless masses I'm paying insurance for, and who are going to receive unburnable housing
undata: mircea_popescu: so you're going to keep the Freen0deAdmins as pets?
mircea_popescu: bounce no it doesn't wtf are you talking about
mircea_popescu: not about yourself lmao, who the fuck gives a shit about yourself ? and you least of all!
bounce: concrete'll burn, if the fire getting it going is hot enough. or whatwasit, turn back into quicklime and whatever else they put in it
mircea_popescu: about becoming a useful member of teh community.
mircea_popescu: Freen0deAdmin read the logs.
mircea_popescu: like you know, telephone poles. you ever seen a charred old pole, from a lightning strike ?
mircea_popescu: bounce the roof is tarred tho.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo all plastics burn, more or less./usually with a lot of toxic smoke
bounce: hm yeah still often quite a bit of wood. floors, roof holding up the tiles, that sort of thing
BingoBoingo: Does terrafoam burn?
bounce: ceaucescu did a lot of building, too, wasn't it?
mircea_popescu: undata not just. houses too, if you build brick walls on concrete pillars... wtf is going to burn ?
undata: box them in soviet apartments
bounce: so that's the problem. youse houses be just too good!
mircea_popescu: at least, not until the idiot westerners came in to build "offices" and "supermarkets"
bounce: the really young (and thus families with young kids) also are a drain.
undata: mircea_popescu: so pragmatically, what to do with the useless?
mircea_popescu: nobody in romania has heard of or could imagine the point of "a sprinkler system"
mircea_popescu: undata sure, but that's not really a societal response.
bounce: if you live in a house for a hundred years, it never burned down, you paid its rebuilding value (given the 2%) twice over. is that a loss? or a win, after al, the house didn't burn down.
undata: nobody in mine needs it, but if they did, the younger generation could float them
mircea_popescu: undata note that this isn't a matter of should, but of does.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, qntra editor needs his breakfast before the day begins
mircea_popescu: well that's probably the only universal atm.
undata: bounce: families should do that
undata: I wouldn't mind seeing the last few generations of americans starve, though.
undata: that is true
bounce: the usg thing is a layer cake of fail. but yes, you'll end up with /some/ subsidizing in any such system. over the long run you'll have been young, subsidizing the old, and old, mooching off of the young both.
cazalla: "..which included a fingerprint scanner and camera, downloaded images of users' bitcoin identification cards." << where do i get one of these?
mircea_popescu: or in other words : someone's going to be stuck with the old and the infirm no matter how you work it out.
mircea_popescu: undata that's a different story tho. some allowance will have to be made for people who worked in one system, if you change it to another system,
bounce: ``Tooth and Claw is the easiest of my books to summarize. It's a sentimental Victorian novel in which all the characters are dragons who eat each other. If that sounds appealing, you'll like it. If not, then probably not.''
undata: and receive virtually no actual insurance for my trouble
undata: due to the recent US healthcare laws, I'm expected to subsidize the old and infirm
asciilifeform: but, humans don't work this way.
asciilifeform: and can hold off the town singlehandedly
asciilifeform: there was an sf tale where rich folks (alien dragon-like creatures, i think it was) actually get bigger
undata goes back to shoveling python
undata: maybe I'm smart enough to avoid them entirely
thestringpuller: one person lands on the grenade to save the rest
Adlai: dinosaurs didn't fail though...
thestringpuller: i thought that worked though
undata: bounce: if we all pile into the grenade together, some of us will survive!
asciilifeform: it's his motherfucking million << his and the riflemens' ?
bounce: though anyway, the point of applying statistics in insurance is exactly because you don't know who's gonna get hit, you only know larger-scale numbers. even so, with this you can mitigate disaster to manageable proportions. that's why it exists.
mircea_popescu: Load Averages: 0.00 0.00 0.00 <<< now listen cazalla, you'd better get moving with that qntra thing nao!!1
bounce: no? 'sides, making the call without a clue is something governments do all the time
mircea_popescu: lol great way to put it
undata: bounce: you're saying the government knows better than the hurricane?
mircea_popescu: otherwise, dinosaurs would still be "too big to fail"
mircea_popescu: we are, as a species, the results of that house surviving, you know.
bounce: plenty governments make that call, and even take away your ability to opt out of insurance altogether.
mircea_popescu: and more importantly, what licenses you to make this call.
bounce: I don't follow. did that guy know that would happen in that case?
mircea_popescu: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/09/18/ike.last.house.standing/art.gilchrist.house.irpt.jpg << the argument that this is "just sheer luck" reduces to both "if you built a business it's not your business" and "einstein never happened"
mircea_popescu: you want me to pay 10% for the greater good ?
mircea_popescu: well thereabouts : if i live in a neighbourhood where flood is 10% yearly, but because of where exactly my house is my chances are 2.3%
bounce: that has nothing to do with making statistics work for you and everything with squeezing every single chump
bounce: the problem is that they're making the maps so detailed as to follow every single thing on there, real-time. not areas, single persons.
bounce: that's your argument, and it's not the problem
mircea_popescu: and similarly, arguing that insurance can't see the maps of the land because you want to have coops of idiots in insurance is nonsensicla.
mircea_popescu: but my argument is : just because your john is an idiot, itdoes not follow you now have license to make a rule as to what mircea the evil can or can not do with his slavegirls.
bounce: actually that doesn't have to be the case. some do pay back the excess and stay small.
mircea_popescu: and if they work well they grow.
bounce: big ones with ambitions... oh dear. that's the ones with their fingers in medical records.
bounce: small ones that stick to their shtick can work pretty well
undata has been in the bit mines too long