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PinkPosixPXE: My dog only gets to IRC on days of the month that are prime.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: the 'method' idea is possibly lifted from the jewish tradition (where you are not, in fact, asked to believe in god, but to simply carry out the program, as i understand.) << errything's lifted from judaism.
mircea_popescu: all that's needed to put someone at a crime scene today is an old hairbrush, or a worn shirt, or anything.
mircea_popescu: but it is much less probative, because so easy to contaminate.
mircea_popescu: and so... fingerprints ? lol. but they're being replaced with "dna proof". which IS more selective,
mircea_popescu: as anything made by men who are not cool enough to live with cocksucking sluts is suspect.
mircea_popescu: in any case, most of the stuff justice relies on to function is actually broken and couldn't stand scrutiny. ironically, the older it is, the more apt it is regarded by the amply conservative mechanism of justice ; yet the more likely to be flawed irretrievavbly
mircea_popescu: part of the reason is post structuralism and deconstructivism. the other part is the internet.
mircea_popescu: bounce: all good and well to want to avoid societal collapse, but to pretend biology would willingly accomodate you there is maybe a bit much. the judge's answer thus is a good measure of the quality of the judicial branch << you have to understand that pious fraud was a lot more fashionable in 1914 than it is today
mircea_popescu: *: bounce thinks the amount of "security" around POTUS is both its own show and another sign that el presidente is not in fact in control of the government faculties <<< doh.
mircea_popescu: bounce: engineers do, make, fix, etc. thinking starts maybe once the tech is widely deployed and cannot be put back in the box. <<< yeah, it's not the job of the engineer to think.
mircea_popescu: now, they'd just make us richer.
mircea_popescu: one of the numerous categorical things bitcoin is doing is making such ploys impossible. pre bitcoin, they could have tried to squeeze the market.
mircea_popescu: bounce: rather transparent ploy at that, but succeeding << not succeeding in any sense
ThickAsThieves: internets internets everywhere and not a drop to drink
Escu: I dont like that
Escu: because that text will look uhly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: only because no one yet has the audacity to list usg payola as 'profit' << ahaha this'll be fun
Escu: I dont like that combination
Escu: ON MY TITS"?
Escu: so I suppose to write that on my tits?
Escu: the text
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: mitigation involves layering. SELinux, one docker per vm, <<< trhen why even bother ? am i dense ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: i guess at a high level stupid solution to stupid problems. << i guess.
mircea_popescu: lmao. it's not the girl, it's the dog!
mircea_popescu: please share your obvious with the group, it's in short supply.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no. and wtf is "pink posix pixie" supposed to mean ? that she's not pink in the middle like normal women, but on the forehead ?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> wait, so PinkPosixPXE is a GIRL ?!?!?! << this was not obvious?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "People like to call books and films and videos "software." They are not sophisticated." << care to explain ?
undata: so you're saying there's no future for me with Elon, eh?
mircea_popescu: it's the original one night stand.
undata: hey, I thought I was named honorary girl yesterday
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's a point. people that hit themselves in the head with a hammer don't write on the accdent report
undata: cool, I agree. I've thought it would be a great place to put magnet links, for example
undata: I've heard people gripe about doing that
asciilifeform: the idea was specifically to show that existing btc protocol is isomorphic to a 'proper chat'
undata: asciilifeform: then you have a positive opinion of using the blockchain for information storage?
asciilifeform: i am entirely uninterested in any system, however superficially similar, which isn't built on top of actual bitcoin blockchain.
undata: asciilifeform: ah yes, I was merely focusing on the social behavior
asciilifeform: undata: the idea, as described on my site, is deadly-simple - no need for server, you 'speak' by sending btc to an address. others 'hear' by seeing what was sent. if the channel owner (owner of privkey to address) decides that you are persona non grata, you never see your coin again. otherwise, it is sent back after a while.
asciilifeform: that is, will operate precisely as intended while the latter does.
bounce: from the country that brought us fearsome defamation laws, two kinds of online porn blocking, jail penalties on refusing to hand over your passwords, and, oh hey, anti-social behaviour orders... sure it'll happen, and it'll get used too.
asciilifeform: undata: point of gedankenexperiment was to propose a telegraph which is exactly as strong as bitcoin in every technical aspect.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Trolls To Get Up To Two Years In Prison Under New Laws, Chris Grayling Announces <<< aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha
mircea_popescu: <undata> asciilifeform: it's an IRC bot which punishes users for saying sentences that have been said before with exponentially increasing ban duration << if only this worked.
undata: asciilifeform: then what is?
asciilifeform: undata: not the point
undata: you could pay to be un-banned with ever increasing cost
undata: asciilifeform: it's an IRC bot which punishes users for saying sentences that have been said before with exponentially increasing ban duration
undata: your post makes me think about paying for "infractions" rather than per message
undata: I've seen that used elsewhere to improve chat-quality
BingoBoingo: Breaking Opterons do do things they were never intended for
asciilifeform assumed that everyone who has seen his site, knew this.
asciilifeform: and yes, it was actually intended to be an os running on off-the-shelf x86-64 hardware.
asciilifeform: that was the original subject, yes
mircea_popescu: o look, asciilifeform named his site after his intended os. like that temple guy!
undata: bah, close enough on the domain
undata: asciilifeform: interesting chat concept on the front page of that site; is it yours?
asciilifeform: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8478427 << gotta love the shitgnomes repeating their mantras of 'it was an accident111!11', 'security is impossibly hard!', 'never roll your own crypto', and other tiresome disinfo.
mircea_popescu: i suppose that's us ?
bounce: won't somebody think of the free radicals?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: how are you to fight the usg thusly? << clearly, one who "does not understand how the world works", the highest honor said usg can bestow upon people.
PinkPosixPXE: Best I could find, no video/recorded broadcast on the H2HC site or anywhere for that matter. :/
PinkPosixPXE: I've searched far and wide, only a pdf version of his slides, I imagine they were just markers for him. But the commentary in the thread, specifically the first user, bullet points some of the main topics.
mircea_popescu: ah i guess you meant the comments huh.
PinkPosixPXE: Here's a decent thread that provides some of the cliff notes, and main points (based on some of the viewer's/reader's interpretation) : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8478427
mircea_popescu: no, on second thought... nevermind.
ben_vulpes: from the derpotron: https://blocksign.com/
PinkPosixPXE: it was from the H2HC convention
PinkPosixPXE: I've looked, there's no video that I can find
mircea_popescu: you two gotta talk more.
decimation: yeah that probably 'worked' better with the speech. I wonder if there's a video?
bounce leaves off the effort then
BingoBoingo: bounce: I'm cutting out the stupid repetition from being a bunch of slides
mircea_popescu: i was just thinking... i wonder if in the future the sex domme role and the hacker role will merge,
bounce: then again, should I leave the re-repe-repete-etc. stuff in so someone can make a fancy js thingy out of it?
mircea_popescu: http://clarobscur.ro/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/tga_0016.jpg << talented kid.
assbot: Season of birth affects your mood later in life - Telegraph
chetty: haha, next they will prove astrology was right all along: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/11171567/Season-of-birth-affects-your-mood-later-in-life.html
mats_cd03: i've had difficulty buying more than 1BTC at a time though. it keeps telling me its empty.
bounce: needs a bit of editing for the re-rep-repe-repete-repetetive parts
asciilifeform: if somebody wants to clean it
asciilifeform: 'Advertise 'cryptographic agility'; actually cryptographic fragility. Pretend that this 'agility' justifes using breakable crypto.'
mircea_popescu: well then stop biting cunts and get to work!
mircea_popescu: punkman i hold on to it for ye till this deedboit thing's done ?
punkman: mircea_popescu: oookay, who wants to code a website for me ? << fired client on friday, interested
Escu: bite only the dicks.
mircea_popescu: do not bite the cunts!
punkman: mircea_popescu: punkman's almost done with anyway. << aye, but you know things to bake, cunts to bite
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah for the n00bs, it contains some informations on timing attacks
mircea_popescu: Escu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fzFaX5k9H0 << how about her tits.
punkman: is the log down?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: map seems to include usa, hence question
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: are these 'bitcoin atm' or simply usg meatprint collectors ?
asciilifeform: or is this one of those 'you can't buy coffee with diamonds' affairs ?
asciilifeform: what the hell happened to machine-for-btc outfits anyway
mircea_popescu: should i turn it off now ?
asciilifeform still waiting for an actual computer offered for btc to which to move 'phuctor'
mircea_popescu: but then again, i'm not known to argue about technical choices with technical leads.
bounce: but then you'd run into the gpg requirement