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mircea_popescu: let's try it this way. suppose there's a cathedral tower with a clock.
bounce: this doesn't compute. take your hand outta my brains and try again?
mircea_popescu: bounce no, inasmuch as fist though your skull moves the matter of your skull around in one way, but MEANS in a number of different arbitrary ways
bounce: inasmuch as that humanity is part of nature, though picturing itself above it.
mircea_popescu: othernubs` i tell you, i love my gold ink cards.
mircea_popescu: it's like asking for an "app aware" tcp/ip implementation.
mircea_popescu: bounce yes, it is begging the question.
mircea_popescu: you know, like obama, the us ally, was the first and perhaps the thickest cock to rape washington.
mircea_popescu: visited the man's grave, too. he was the first and the thickest cock to rape byzantium.
othernubs`: speaking of unobtainium, these metallic inks are getting us a bunch of jobs lately. offset printers can suck it
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mircea_popescu: bounce it works splendidly too.
mircea_popescu: o look, there's a 20 yo junior rabbi in the house. lmao.
xanthyos: also the bouncing of the building would put equal force on the ground and magnetically try to push away the ground structure even more
xanthyos: oh if the ground level changes that much there's no way a magnetic field could hold it consistently
pete_dushenski: lol these contravex commenters are getting angrier and angrier: http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/20/software-doesnt-fail-socialism-does/#comment-3605
asciilifeform: say ground moves 20cm down and then 30cm back up, earthquake. or fell into a ditch. cancel that.
xanthyos: of course, a hacker could then simulate an earthquake on that building to the same extent of magnitude that the smartmagnets were designed to resist against
xanthyos: unless they were "smartmagnets" that could generate the inverse wave to the vibration to cancel it out in the same way that some car radios use microphones to cancel out road noise
Apocalyptic: "and were it to move, would propagate vibration to the 'levitated' object." that's assuming a magnetic field of constant power, right ?
xanthyos: that propagated vibration would be less than the vibration the building would experience without the field gap between it and the ground magnets
mike_c: on kickstarter those guys are selling a hover board for $450 that.. doesn't hover.
asciilifeform: nope. even with infinitely strong magnetic effect, the ground is still taking up the weight, and were it to move, would propagate vibration to the 'levitated' object.
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, to be fair it's not the newton's law that is neglected here, but the fact that you won't get a magnetic field even close to be powerfull enough to support that weight
asciilifeform: i have a very special, very deep loathing for 'kickstart' sc4mz0rs. especially of this particular species.
xanthyos: well there would have to be magnets in the ground to create the field for the building to be repulsed from in the event of an earthquake
asciilifeform: not that an electromagnetic shock absorber is impossible - it exists, and has for years - but no magic here.
xanthyos: but if the ground unit vibrated so too would its magnetic field and thus the building
asciilifeform: 'theoretically raise a building off of its foundation during an earthquake, essentially rendering the natural disaster's tremors harmless' << newton's laws crying from neglect
assbot: We rode a $10,000 hoverboard, and you can too
Adlai will ask gavi what he thinks of the hardfork
mircea_popescu: Adlai there's not that much in a name.
kakobrekla: <Adlai> so just as gavin is doing his AMA, i get a request to buy coins from "gavi". < you be in wrong channels
Adlai: although admittedly i've spent a grand total of about fifteen seconds trying
pakaloloz: I do think this may be as DPB says "#badforbitcoin"
Adlai: so just as gavin is doing his AMA, i get a request to buy coins from "gavi". coincidence? i think not!
pakaloloz: so BTCJAM aka BTCSCAM announced... "We are happy to announce that we have added bank account & credit card verification!"
mircea_popescu: no, he prolly realised that he doesn't need it or want to use it and it'll just gather dust
othernubs`: altho the clear panel is way cooler in person
othernubs`: pictures sort-of do them justice
xanthyos: but thanks for the offer
xanthyos: nevermind i dont' need this
othernubs`: xanthyos, postage is about $2 to usa, what denomination you want?
othernubs`: it's rare to see a paper banknote nowadays
mircea_popescu: he should be fucking flogged for this one.
mircea_popescu: it'd almost work as a parody of the redditard generation, except spacey is playing it full straight.
mircea_popescu: dude this "father of invention" flic is the most god awful pandering piece of shit
xanthyos: and it has a picture of the queen on it, so that's worth something.
xanthyos: apparently canada is adding plastic content to its fiat paper to make it less rippable. the fiat may not be backed, but reinforced paper will fool the masses
mircea_popescu: which in the grand scheme of things isn't really much at all. they've already fucked the goat in the public market long ago
mircea_popescu: they'd just be a iota more ridiculously pointless than they are today
Adlai: it'd be a little funny if all the devs agreed to the hardfork, got a working patch together, then went miner by miner and couldn't get a single one to agree to switch
kakobrekla: RagnarDanneskjol if you can put them in order i can include them online (before the log starts)
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> yeah, it's possible miners won't make the best decision. this was illustrated yesterday, when the atc miners failed to make the best decision. // btw that was pretty impressive
othernubs`: ah, i forgot you can disable the backlight on this thing
mircea_popescu: their failure was signalled to them within minutes, and they obeyed that signal in an hour.
diametric: maybe i'm mistaken but doesn't the white paper basically state a hard fork will be required in the future to address scalability?
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's possible miners won't make the best decision. this was illustrated yesterday, when the atc miners failed to make the best decision.
mircea_popescu: because money doesn't think all that much of code monkeys. and definitely isn't going to start taking their ideas of how to manage things seriously.
mircea_popescu: most bitcoin reads mp way before it remembers who the fuck this gavin schmuck is.
mircea_popescu: Adlai the "most people" argument is pretty much nil.
assbot: gavinandresen comments on I'm Gavin Andresen, Chief Scientist at the Bitcoin Foundation. Ask me anything!
Adlai: gavin on the hardfork: https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jw5pm/im_gavin_andresen_chief_scientist_at_the_bitcoin/clfns8j?context=3
RagnarDanneskjol: kakobrekla - sorry nevermind -apparently Azelphur has everything logged since the beginning of time. I can throw it up somewhere for whoevers wants it
chetty: I think we're very close on all of those things.
chetty: You've long been a proponent of the "Bitcoin is an experiment" line of thinking. While that is technically true, so is "Gravity is just a theory". What needs to happen for you to switch from "Bitcoin is an experiment" to "Bitcoin is established"?
Adlai: miners are people too, and people don't always make the best decisions. even if they act rationally, they might not be aware of all the information about an issue.
mats_cd03: and... they won't let themselves get shit on.
mats_cd03: the only opinion that matters is that of miners.
Adlai: as much as the timecube's four days revolve around the WoT, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people who have heard about the hardfork proposal haven't heard any competing argument against it
bounce: with enough hashrate on 0.6 (or whichever, maintained etc.) and staying there, hardforks are bound to fizzle. could try and talk to large pool operators.
Adlai: such a drastic change would definitely cast this issue (and others) into the limelight, until now it's been confined to a few IRC channels and blog posts
mircea_popescu: i'm all for it, the level of either cluelessness or desperation such a move entails is promising.
Adlai: "some people just wanna see the world burn" ^_^
mircea_popescu: this is sort-of like wanting to see what happens if/when the soviets finally decide to cross fulda ?
Adlai is quite curious to see what happens if/when changes such as a the blocksize hardfork get pushed to the reference implementation
kakobrekla: anyway RagnarDanneskjol what do you want in the zip? csv? sql? a puddle? daily files?
kakobrekla: asciilifeform saves the day
mircea_popescu: i totally wish to read more idiocy from this gavin puppet.
mircea_popescu: so "governments" will prevail, as fucking if there can even be such a thing as a government other than bitcoin ; and bitcoin gotta hide its misshapen form in the dark.
ben_vulpes: it'd be neat if he'd differentiate between Bitcoin the reference implementation which is bug-ridden and shitty, and Bitcoin the protocol which doesn't exist.
bounce: ``I'd rather not speculate in an open forum about the best ways to screw with Bitcoin.'' (Perish_In_a_Fire) -- aww.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ba_log_gibblet.txt << for those who missed...
RagnarDanneskjol: is there a zip/torrent of all logs avail somewhere?
RagnarDanneskjol: talkin bout the old one
kakobrekla: a you speak of the carcas
RagnarDanneskjol: punkman's ver is getting very close too
RagnarDanneskjol: deedbot is actually up - in here under different nick - just the server it lives on failed security audit
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski oyu know, if anyone gave a shit about either gavin or reddit they'd just go there.
pete_dushenski: [–]gavinandresen[S] 26 points an hour ago Biggest misconception: That Bitcoin will Topple Governments and the Powerful. Governments will do what they always do -- they will adapt (well, the worst ones will fail, causing misery and suffering; maybe Bitcoin will speed that up a little, and mitigate the misery a little).
pete_dushenski: ok, ima give this qntra news thing another hack.
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mircea_popescu: On 15 June 1961, two months before the construction of the Berlin Wall started, First Secretary of the Socialist Unity Party and Staatsrat chairman Walter Ulbricht stated in an international press conference, "Niemand hat die Absicht, eine Mauer zu errichten!" <<< nobody has any intention to fuck up bitcoin o.O
mircea_popescu: you two are doing it right.
mircea_popescu: <othernubs`> ;;later tell asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CZvVKFM9 <<< i like this shit.
kakobrekla: and a KYC team
bounce: then it's "no touching the merchandise"
mircea_popescu: * Adlai must admit that he first misread that headline as "BitBet lands $14.5M ..." << da fuck would bitbet do with 15mn.
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> cazalla BingoBoingo derpndesk.com/bitnet-lands-14-5-million-series-funding-rival-coinbase-bitpay/ << and somehow in spite of all these "investement" nobody is buying the shorts pretty much.