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mircea_popescu: it's correct, but too valuable for him. he was given notes.
mod6: perhaps the script should throw a line in /etc/apt/sources.list
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can tell me anything you wish, but he IS a kgb puppet. there's just no way he could have figured this one on his own.
mircea_popescu: the Federal Reserve is fresh out of magic bullets and faces a choice between crashing the stock market and crashing the bond market. << this is exactly correct by the way.
decimation: so did most of the captured germans
mircea_popescu: patton wanted to keep going. nobody else did.
mircea_popescu: this is total bs lol.
mircea_popescu: t lots of conventional forces right in the heart of Europe)."
mircea_popescu: "For example, it is known that after the end of World War II America's military planners were thinking of launching a nuclear strike against the USSR, and the only thing that held them back was the fact that they didn't have enough bombs, meaning that Russia would have taken over all of Europe before the effects of the nuclear strikes could have deterred them from doing so (Russia had no nuclear weapons at the time, bu
undata: yeah... that'll help
undata looks at the 11 dollar bill on his desk from the IRS
asciilifeform: 'Full fathom five thy father lies; of his bones are coral made; those are pearls that were his eyes...'
asciilifeform: meaning, rigorously, that for all valid machine ints i, i <= $maxint
asciilifeform: this is precisely what i mean when i say that one thing or another costs $maxint
mircea_popescu: well, there's the castle, and the rock upon which it rests, and the province in which the rock lies...
mircea_popescu: like trying to evaluate the weight of the stone around a man's neck who's chained to the castle wall.
asciilifeform: at certain point, there is a phase change, and the debt is repayable only in: meat.
decimation: all of which are implicitly on usg's books, because too big to fail
mircea_popescu: more importantly : if the various cds, swaps and futures unwind, that's a notional .5 to 100 quadrillion dollars gone
assbot: You Think The Deficit Is Bad? Federal Unfunded Liabilities Exceed $127 Trillion - Forbes
mircea_popescu: this for a number of reasons, chief among which : the reported figures doesn't and hasn't for decades included all sorts of figures.
decimation: right, like liberia saving to buy whatsapp
mircea_popescu: decimation nah, there's practically infinity outstanding.
mircea_popescu: dude, trust the enemy to give true to life portraits, it always works.
undata: and they have a fiddly definition of what counts as debt
mircea_popescu: t decide to do?" <<< ahahaah epic.
mircea_popescu: "You'd think that Obama has already overplayed his hand, and should behave accordingly. His popularity at home is roughly the inverse of Putin's, which is to say, Obama is still more popular than Ebola, but not by much. He can't get anything at all done, no matter how pointless or futile, and his efforts to date, at home and abroad, have been pretty much a disaster. So what does this social worker turned national masco
assbot: U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
decimation: http://www.usdebtclock.org/ depending on how you count there are about $100-$250 trillion in outstanding liabilities
undata: 17.8 trillion total debt
decimation: right, and of course these are only 'cashflow' numbers, not debt on the books
mircea_popescu: yeah, 900bn is the us budget shortfall
mike_c: BingoBoingo: whoa. that looks disastrous at first
assbot: Foreign trade of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: or was 900 the fiscal deficit
decimation: now the us runs a net trade deficit of >500$bn per year
mircea_popescu: yes, 1980 was before "everyone goes to college" and before "we'll outsource" and before all the rest of the crap.
mircea_popescu: so then.
decimation: but in 1980 usg was a net trade creditor to the world
decimation: the problem is that it kinda worked for the backwater Caribbean drug runners it was intended to hurt
asciilifeform: correct side, conventionally, is the one with the chixxors & coke, rather than fleas and reddit
decimation: somehow ever since the late 70's and early 80's when the aml stuff was made law, usg has gotten used to the idea that it can just make transacting money illegal as it wills
mircea_popescu: once there's tinted glass, the war was lost.
mircea_popescu: there is no correct side of tinted glass.
asciilifeform: organisms with simple nervous systems, they are; while on the correct side of the tinted glass, will continue to think they are 'someone.'
mircea_popescu: just, you know, us bureaucrats do not manage to comprehend they're nobody and need to stfu when actual people are talking.
decimation: european banks hate aml because of the shit they have to go through for us clients
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even plausible that usg permitted this to avoid hastening axe-time, sword-time, bitcoin-time
mircea_popescu: i can now leisurely transfer moneyz from washington to tehran, just hop it off swift into russwift via the national network in any of two dozen different sattelite states.
asciilifeform: anyone care to see the turdlets in?
mircea_popescu: decimation the us. it literally killed aml bs.
mircea_popescu: this, by the way, is factual, and incalculably fucking stupid.
mircea_popescu: There were even some threats to cut Russia off from the SWIFT system, which would have made it quite difficult to transfer funds between Russia and the West, but what these threats did instead was to give Russia the impetus to introduce its own RUSSWIFT system, which will include even Iran, neutralizing future American efforts at imposing financial restrictions.
mircea_popescu: seems the way current bureaucracies are interpreting the "ideas are soldiers" thing is very pedestrian seo : "narratives are soldiers"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform were you looking for "The American behavior throughout this succession of defeats has been remarkably consistent, with the constant element being their flat refusal to deal with reality in any way, shape or form." ? :D
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mircea_popescu: guy made some allegations of theft, fraud and embezzelment, died in custody without having been charged, a week before the one year (seriously ?!?!?!) term he could be held without trial.
mircea_popescu: seriously, that's what happened there ? o.O
mircea_popescu: viduals who were labeled as human rights violators. Russian legislators responded with the “Dima Yakovlev Bill,” named after a Russian orphan adopted by Americans who killed him by leaving him in a locked car for nine hours. This bill banned American orphan-killing fiends from adopting any more Russian orphans. It all amounted to a silly bit of melodrama."
mircea_popescu: "At that time the stakes weren't very high yet. There was much noise around a fellow named Magnitsky, a corporate lawyer-crook who got caught and died in pretrial custody. He had been holding items for some bigger Western crooks, who were, of course, never apprehended. The Americans chose to treat this as a human rights violation and responded with the so-called “Magnitsky Act” which sanctioned certain Russian indi
asciilifeform: didn't know this?
mircea_popescu: nobody really knew if they're any good or not.
mircea_popescu: it was crucial originally, to ensure against an at the time unknown nsa.
mircea_popescu: it wasn't terribly useful by then.
decimation: according to Mr. Vulpes
asciilifeform: wasn't irc sync phased out then ?
othernubs`: 0.6.0 initial network synchronization is 5x faster than 0.5.3 ;)
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure he was here in the first days.
TheNewDeal: RagnarDanneskjol how long back do these Azelphur logs go?
mircea_popescu: or that.
mod6: so maybe that version should be bumped up in there, unless I'm missing something.
mod6: ben_vulpes's thing is gonna install 0.5.3
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mircea_popescu: ;;google and he smithen them with the holy bible
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: don't confuse this item with phil z's pgp book
othernubs`: 0.6.3 seems to be the winner
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the bug is not so much of a concern, nobody is typing the book into a machine. << Wait, then what was the purpose again?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the consensus seems to be 6.3 ?
mircea_popescu: the bug is not so much of a concern, nobody is typing the book into a machine.
othernubs`: you'd be sad if you paid 1btc for a book that's got a shitty bug, or that's 1 release behind a major improvement
othernubs`: so before i fully dive in here, is it worth asking what's the most recent acceptable version?
Apocalyptic: oh that I didn't know
othernubs`: TheNewDeal, how do you think ive had +v all day ;D
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you know i got that from a number of ppl ? incl mpoe-pr
Apocalyptic: btw mircea, just had a chance to read the usgavin trilema piece, it's stunning
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask othernubs`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163081094.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net. Trust relationship from user nubbins` to user othernubs`: Level 1: 10, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nubbins%60&dest=othernubs%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=othernubs%60 | Rated since: Mon Oct 20 00:55:51 2014
asciilifeform: where'd they put nubbins` ?
mircea_popescu: what happened there again ?
mircea_popescu: save it for the 2nd edition.
othernubs`: are there any useful BIPs we're missing out on?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he's prollly going to sell a hundred, you kidding ?
mircea_popescu: which reminds me, The20YearIRCloud any renters yet ?
asciilifeform: who else, i wonder, wishes for one of these
othernubs`: yep, the forums would eat this book
mircea_popescu: also, nubs had decent success with the posters iirc
mircea_popescu: it's 3 in the morning and the log is 500 lines ya buncha chatterboxes.
othernubs`: anyone got that file list yet?
othernubs`: the rest should come together quickly
othernubs`: it seems to be mostly mac bugfixes
othernubs`: but then the cover has to be grey