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bounce: no,
they're spying on
the returnees. already.
davout: what are you gonna do? cage
them?
bounce: at
the very least it
ties up secret service manpower
to keep an eye on
them
bounce: I don't care if maladjusted angry youths want
to run away and make
trouble in a war zone. I do care if
they come back, recruit some more kids (to do
the same), cause
trouble, shoot some jews, what have you.
bounce: because
the fucks come back all shell shocked and violent
bounce: announce
that loud and clear and everybody knows what
the score is. "if you want
to go
there, you're dead
to us."
bounce wishes
the politicians would show some spine here.
take
their local passport, wave goodbye, declare
them europe-wide persona non grata for all eternity. problem solved.
davout: it's because
the news is full of
teens leaving france
to go
to syria for djihad and whatnot
jurov: wtf is "individual
terrorist undertaking"?
jurov: dunno what was
then. maybe cia/kgb planted me false memories and whatnot
assbot: French 'terror law' declares WAR on
the INTERNET itself, say digi-rights folks
The Register
jurov: chetty go on.
they're listening
chetty: well even if ddos is your
thing, power
trip and all I can
think of more interesting
things
to ddos
jurov: got some qualms of remorse, did not continue down
that path
jurov: i don't know why i did not do more of it myself. only once
tried SMB packed of death against neighbor's win machine flooding
the ether with all kinds of windoze packets
chetty wishes all
these ddosers would find something productive
to do with
their
time
jurov: usually when freenode has problems, it dumps me whole banlist for all channels,
that happened 20 mins ago.
davout: not like laws are going
to make it not ok anyway
jurov: heh all is ok
then
jurov: davout any news? you said
there's some stupid french law pending
cazalla: thestringpuller: "He's Canadian" << lol,
the canadians brought us Degrassi and indie rock! <<< fkn degrassi,
to
this day i remember claude offing himself in
the
toilets, i
think i was like 10 or 12 and what is
this
bounce: AIUI
they potted up
their north sea gas proceeds, instead of giving it all away
to
the unwashed masses. gives
them a bit of playroom.
bounce: am I supposed
to pity
the fools now?
bounce: the sweedish sold off
their sub hunting helos in 2008. bwahahahaha.
mircea_popescu: how did
that
theory go...
the ideal spy is an old guy with no social contacts ?
mircea_popescu: On Sunday,
the Swedish media wound itself into a
tizzy over a photograph of a man dressed in black wading into
the water somewhere in
the archipelago.
The security services were dispatched
to find
the man, who
turned out
to be a pensioner named Ove, out doing some fishing. "I'm no spy, I'm a pensioner," he
told Expressen. "You can
tell
that it's me [in
the photo] by my straight jeans, and I usually have a backpack on."
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes:
this suggests a novel attack vector: depress price strategically
to drive miners out, <<< except miners don't go in and out with
the price.
the market is amortisation driven,
they have
the gear and have
to use it, so
they'll use it.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: it's completely wild
to see how much
the bitcoin network hashrate fluctuates. << you understand
those aren't directly measured, but more like calculated after
the fact ? it's normal variance, you're
trying
to guess how many
times a coin is
tossed by how many heads you see. well...
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there's at least half a dozen of various derp groups, and
they're all wasting oxygen & public moneyz.
mircea_popescu: cazalla seems not really. but
the aussie "secret service"
twerps are
the better
target
there. i dun
think anyone can point out
to ANYTHING
they ever achieved, since ww2 onward.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i remember hearing about
this kid, nfi if he actually was part of lulzsec or not
mircea_popescu: people may exchange info as
to how much switching happens and where and how, on a "need
to operate network" basis.
mircea_popescu: i suppose
the other similar
thing is
the networking cabal.
thickasthieves: i remember bitfury was very defensive when i asked how much manufactured mining power
they represented
mircea_popescu: there will be
the occasional reports from retired people, obviously. but otherwise, bitcoin mining ~==== fiat espionage.
thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> being a miner is notoriously a "nobody's business"
type of affair.
there's nothing
to be gained really. /// well, what if we picture
the future 10 years out? are representatives of large hash more communicative? or is
there 'political' position on bitcoin
technicals more known?
assbot: 'LulzSec leader Aush0k' found
to be naughty boy not worthy of jail
The Register
mircea_popescu: miners willing
to
talk about
their mining are either lying or motivated by something larger
than
their mining. which could be
their own honesty, of course, but could just as well invalidate
the entire premise identifying
them as miners.
mircea_popescu: being a miner is notoriously a "nobody's business"
type of affair.
there's nothing
to be gained really.
thestringpuller: or do people have
their computers lie about
the version of stuff
they are running?
thestringpuller: couldn't you just ask
trustworthy miners like slush for
the pool stats?
mircea_popescu: hard
to verify miners, easy
to get a bunch of derps
that love
to
talk. but yes, it would be.
thickasthieves: <+othernubs`> let's get some big miners
to give up
their secret sauce /// yknow a survey of large miners' and pools' sentiment on state of bitcoin dev, what versions
they use, etc would be a great qntra article
gribble: pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 30 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <pigeons> so far
that seems accurate
gabriel_laddel: ;; later
tell nubbins I'm not familiar with
the btc codebase, but is
there any reason not
to include diffs from 5.3
to n.m in
the appendix?
ben_vulpes: how
though
to reconcile noise suppression with -asset logreading...
ben_vulpes: taleb's really on
to something with his noise suppression routine.
ben_vulpes: i *was* being productive and booting historical versions of bitcoin
to run locally.
ben_vulpes: well it's cost
the future one night of my
time.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no dude, it's a pos libtard venue astroturfing
the shit out of
the internet.
ben_vulpes: who nerdsniped me with
the etherscam again
ben_vulpes: using
their considerable expertise in implementing a just-in-time (JIT) compiled version of
the Ethereum virtual machine and making computationally-complex contracts a reasonably affordable possibility
ben_vulpes: fluffypony: now
there's an interesting
thing
to put up someone's pooper
pete_dushenski: and my eyes are calling it quits for
tonight. bon soir
tout le monde!
pete_dushenski: and who's going
to be duped by any
transaction large enough for
this strategy
to pay off?
ben_vulpes: now i want
to see
the power draw of
the btc network.
ben_vulpes: this suggests a novel attack vector: depress price strategically
to drive miners out, drop large amounts of hashpower
to rewrite blockchain.
pete_dushenski: it's completely wild
to see how much
the bitcoin network hashrate fluctuates.
ben_vulpes: i'm
too
tired and
too deep in unix horseshit
to know what
to say about ether anymore
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes as opposed
to... lol crafting your own based on imaginary spec?
pete_dushenski: i haven't
tried
their other equipment but it's priced
to a point where i certainly have high expectations
pete_dushenski: went back
to
the store 5 months later and btc and
the jacket's price had converged so it was only 1 btc. i went for it
then :D
pete_dushenski: when i first saw
this jacket in banff, btc was $350 so it was 2 btc so i balked.
fluffypony: but I keep
taking
the packs out and using it for hikes and general
travel
fluffypony: I have Khard 45s
that we use for our go bags
assbot: Obtaining and offline securing ether for
the upcoming Ethereum launch Medium
pete_dushenski: though i did get a pretty sweet arcteryx winter jacket at
the end of last season
that i'm looking forward
to sporting.
pete_dushenski: cheaper
than a canada goose down jacket and a bathtub full of maple syrup, i suppose.
cazalla: fluffypony, hopefully
they get back
to me but not likely
assbot: 2.4GHz Gatling - $400.00 :
Truerc Canada, Lipos, UHF and antennas for FPV!
fluffypony: cazalla: it's obvious how
they're going
to do it...you just have
to hand over your private keys and
they'll
totally handle
the rest :-P
fluffypony: famous around
the world for its directional 2.4ghz FPV antennae
pete_dushenski: fluffypony hm did see
that. afraid not. looks like i'll be in central canada around
then...
assbot: BitPay
To Assist Paydici
To Enable Bitcoin Based Recurring Billing | Qntra.net
fluffypony: pete_dushenski: I'm going
to be in LA from next
Tue
till Nov 2nd, and
then in Utah & Las Vegas from Nov 2nd
to Nov 17th - any chance you're mosying on down in
that vicinity?
pete_dushenski: "The FBI director James Comey's bid
to have Congress kibosh default encryption appears
to have publicly failed after senators said
the proposal would be rejected." << uhuh
pete_dushenski: but of course smartphones are supersekure and everything and
there's no way goog/aapl are letting
those pesky feds get in
the way.
assbot: Logged on 28-03-2014 00:41:08; ozbot: Researches find Android apps
that covertly mine Dogecoin, one of
them with more
than a million downl
pete_dushenski: ya wasn't
there a dogecoin mining botnet on android fones
too?