ThickAsThieves: thereby removing stability

ThickAsThieves: your market woudl have competition with outside markets

ThickAsThieves: however, this is a business, so i'm trying to sort it out

ThickAsThieves: a concept i generally agree with as well

ThickAsThieves: well you lose all walls for your garden and throw it into the middle of the highway

ThickAsThieves: this is not a problem you think?

ThickAsThieves: hrm

ThickAsThieves: if client is open source, then i could just hack in my own HUDs and music? or is it to be compiled in such a way to make that impractical for most?

ThickAsThieves: so u can customize my hero, why not town music, HUD, mayve even environments

ThickAsThieves: well that got me thinking,

ThickAsThieves: and thus a more segmented relationship with designers as businesses

ThickAsThieves: do you intend to have "hats" for sale?

ThickAsThieves: bogging*

ThickAsThieves: this topic (and more i wish to bring up) is very interesting to me, so I apologize if it's boggong the channel

ThickAsThieves: if not constrained

ThickAsThieves: and should be allowed to

ThickAsThieves: styke may evolve

ThickAsThieves: yes

ThickAsThieves: just need good art directors and PMs

ThickAsThieves: despite dozens of outside contributors

ThickAsThieves: dota 2 most certainly maintains a style

ThickAsThieves: there are ways to mitigate this to almost seamless effect

ThickAsThieves: interesting

ThickAsThieves: a style guide might also get technical to help 3d artists know the boundaries and specs of each hero race

ThickAsThieves: it just makes sure all the furniture looks good in the room

ThickAsThieves: hehe

ThickAsThieves: etc

ThickAsThieves: where Rift's might say "designs should not resemble WoW and be more photo=realistic"

ThickAsThieves: WoW's style guide might say "please try to use blocky, child-friendly shapes"

ThickAsThieves: for example,

ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves the current thinking is that if by style guide you mean, that the same hand visibly had designed everything, that that's a luxury we don't want to afford /// not exactly, a style guide is more like a branding guidelines document, it defines the overall style of the game, creating boundaries for artists

ThickAsThieves: hello hanbot

ThickAsThieves: now i should rephrase to, will there be an inital set pf graphics the game is launched with, with a style guide - separately from any continuously solicited graphics -- or is my vision of "coninuously created graphics" off the mark, where theyll be not even a shade of the dota community approach

ThickAsThieves: so this goes back to my questions, as my goal wasnt to compare market approaches anyway

ThickAsThieves: (i could easily mark improvements for dota's market as applied though)

ThickAsThieves: while Dota is in no way a perfect bitlancer, it is also debatable to call it half-assed tfor the purposes it was designed

ThickAsThieves: and you wantthe designers to know they have a dedicated thriving community to consume them

ThickAsThieves: you want the players to be enthusiasts of the designers and designs

ThickAsThieves: no no

ThickAsThieves: this crosses over to your designers too

ThickAsThieves: people like the option of options, to feel they have choice, but in a marketing sense, they dont functionally like it too much choice

ThickAsThieves: i'm saying that dominating customer attention gains benefit

ThickAsThieves: i'm not saying to pretend competition doesnt exist

ThickAsThieves: but in the end Eulora is it's own player, competing

ThickAsThieves: not in a general sense, no

ThickAsThieves: and thin out the focus and perceived value of the brand

ThickAsThieves: it would compete more directly with other work

ThickAsThieves: moving it to a bitlance.io would throw it into the wild

ThickAsThieves: branding/community - Having it intregrated allows focus on the game, removes distractions, and creates a sense of worth, even for "worthless" skins

ThickAsThieves: i'm sure i can totally articulate why i think dota's approach has advantages, but i'll try

ThickAsThieves: yes and no, i think there are marketing considerations

ThickAsThieves: they each have gateways to the other though

ThickAsThieves: market*

ThickAsThieves: part is intra

ThickAsThieves: part of the marker is extra-dota

ThickAsThieves: (though Steam does)

ThickAsThieves: nor does dota

ThickAsThieves: compared to having one hosted in the game

ThickAsThieves: it will be rather difficult to develop a thriving eulora skin market in bitlancer.io

ThickAsThieves: for the sake of the game itself

ThickAsThieves: i do question whether or not dota's approach is better

ThickAsThieves: while i dont disagree

ThickAsThieves: ah

ThickAsThieves: choice and forced mistake are different how exactly?

ThickAsThieves: (something worth considering either way, Dota 2 is fucking raking it in)

ThickAsThieves: but not totally encompassing like a freelance.com

ThickAsThieves: something integrated yet separate from the game

ThickAsThieves: or other armor skins

ThickAsThieves: to make "hats"

ThickAsThieves: like how Dota 2 does it

ThickAsThieves: as part of the game

ThickAsThieves: see i was always picturing you'd have some sort of eulora-specific market

ThickAsThieves: ahhhh that clears much up,

ThickAsThieves: you mean the freelancer.com thing?

ThickAsThieves: i'm a lil lost

ThickAsThieves: I assume this consists of incentivizing designers to make skins and such

ThickAsThieves: 1. You want to have an open market for artwork be an integral part of Eulora

ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves im not sure i get what you're asking there. /// I'll break it down into bits

ThickAsThieves: some people noticed

ThickAsThieves: mask, yeah

ThickAsThieves: he'd have imposters do his shows sometimes

ThickAsThieves: cgcardona are you familiar with MF Doom?

ThickAsThieves: weak trust BigBitz ;)

ThickAsThieves: because if we get more use of the WoT, it allows new systems to develop on it

ThickAsThieves: another perk is generally supporting the movement

ThickAsThieves: what Google is missing is the ability to verify you in a live situation, and the ability to have a "ledger" on your trust transactions with people

ThickAsThieves: it is meant for connecting people you trust

ThickAsThieves: that would be incorrect usage

ThickAsThieves: it is not meant for just looking at the score

ThickAsThieves: Micon, it's not gameable in the sense that it is a tool that references who trusts whom

ThickAsThieves: and so you can build a rep in this meta world

ThickAsThieves: so can a car salesman

ThickAsThieves: therefore your request is disqualified

ThickAsThieves: paintball guns would get me jailed

ThickAsThieves: I'm still waiting for you guys to submit questions to presenters for me to ask: http://devilsadvocate.biz/amsterdam-bitcoin-conferences-quantum-mining-and-the-future/

ThickAsThieves: Josh will be at the Amsterdam conference

ThickAsThieves: i recall the BFL videos and coverage

ThickAsThieves: cool cool

ThickAsThieves: Micon, I know I know your name, but it escapes me, what do you do? Was it SWC?

ThickAsThieves: ty