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undata: BingoBoingo: I'll read
this but
to continue,
the Russians sought Putin's strong voice after
their collapse.
undata: nah, I'm already on
the list.
BingoBoingo: undata: Would you prefer I find
the ISIS hosted version,
they prolly have one...
BingoBoingo: undata: But what if
the Sirians offer
that strong voice first!
undata: when
the jackboot ends up on
the corner he'll have been welcomed by >50%
undata: and I
think
the military industrial complex will provide
that voice for
them
undata: if
things start falling apart,
they're going
to beg for
the first strong voice
they hear
to save
them.
BingoBoingo: undata: I'm just suggesting datacenter
that can't be disconnected from a safe distance...
undata: I
think American's are cowardly enough
that Dallas won't have
to be
taken.
decimation: your friend is shot in
the head, he calls for help, but
the locals have already
taken over
the airport, no helicopters anywhere
decimation: things get ugly. a few bombs go off. You are ordered out of your apc into
the city.
decimation: there's no air support, because comms are down.
The 'locals' mostly
think
that
the state should decide how
things are run, not some ex-bureaucrats.
decimation: undata:
think of it from
the point of view of
the lowly private. You are at Fort Hood, and wash dc is gone. Your commander has
told you
that
the 'chain of command' has ordered you
to 'take Dallas'.
undata: look, if you're going
to present it as a given
that
the most effectively oppressive military complex on earth is about
to disappear, you're going
to have
to justify
that.
undata: I'll listen
to
the other view; go ahead
thestringpuller: we like
to
think so, but who is really pulling
the strings?
undata: a highly armed, extremely disciplined military doesn't just vanish because
the congressmen stop coming
to work
thestringpuller: definitely but without a function chain of command
the army is going
to fragment into multiple "militias" in a serious disaster
undata: but I highly doubt any of you are going
to like what follows if it falls
undata: you guys are a bit wishful sometimes; I share
the sentiment
towards
the us govt
decimation: 1.) "chain of command" orders military
to 'crush' a city 2.) half
the
troops go awol,
the other half are murdered by partisans 3.) "chain of command" no longer in command
undata: I don't
think
the head-body metaphor applies here
decimation: who's control? I have no doubt
that off-continent enemies will be
taken seriously, but who's orders are
they going
to follow?
Texas?
undata: none of which will be keeping control of
the continent?
decimation: it has no head, and
the various pieces will find
themselves suddenly having bigger priorities
decimation: if washington dc goes under, for instance,
there is no us military
undata: 1) hide underground 2) send
the military into
the cities 3) burn
decimation: thestringpuller: yeah such movies are probably less fantastic
than usg's hidden 'plans'
thestringpuller: ^- is
this why
they make so many disaster movies about
the USG going underground during a disaster and
trying
to reclaim power?
decimation: 1960 usg might have been able
to regroup and have some semblance of authority in case of major disaster. 2014 usg has no chance
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decimation: aside from
that you are stuck with hp, dell, etc
decimation: asciilifeform: I
think supermicro makes
them
too
BingoBoingo: Seems so, but I'll look a few years older and he same seems
to hold
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll be looking
to grow my farm once qntra
takes off
decimation: BingoBoingo: I'm sure
there are still vaxes running somewhere
decimation: yeah for instance if
the chinese submitted an entry, no matter how open or impressive, it would never be adopted
decimation: who
the hell knows what molten silicon will do
decimation: so it is easier for notes from stalin
to be issued
decimation: As I understand,
the 'common criteria' eal levels are going away, in favor of even less objective scam-criteria
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah what it really means is
that you sat
through many gov't meetings
BingoBoingo: decimation: Sure, handegg regular gameplay changes every year nao and Baseball hasn't had a real change since
the mound was lowered because Bob Gibson
decimation: that
turn out
to be randomly enforced in practice
decimation: BingoBoingo: except for all
the subtle rules about when/where
tackling is legal
BingoBoingo: Of
the
two 'Murican sports, "Football"is probably
the one with
the simplest rules
to grasp.
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BingoBoingo: American football is simpler
though. DOn't break your spine before you sign an NFL contract is basically all of handegg
BingoBoingo: Ah, well most 'Murican don't really get Baseball anymore unless
their spanish is good.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: By refering
to Kimbrel as Sirian I mean as in from
the Wasp, bowlegged with inhuman movements. Only way
to describe
the fucker.
decimation: I understand
the general concept, but
there are many subtle rules and concepts
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'd suggest playing
the part of a Nationals or Baltimore Orioles fan next year, but given
the proximity
to District 1, dunno how you feel about anal probing
thestringpuller: Haha. BingoBoingo we should
take asciilifeform
to a baseball game.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I'm
that way with handegg and soccer
BingoBoingo: Mastery of Bullpen usage was how Larussa got
the Cardinals
two world series wins, but nao... Mathenaging...
BingoBoingo: Ah, I guess for context... back in 2010 Lincecum was called
the "Freak" for seeming unnaturaly better
than any other starting pitcher, but since
then... He has more
than regressed
to mean...
BingoBoingo: Also odd
things happen in baseball over
time. In 2010 people would call prank if you said
Tim Lincecum warming up in
the bullpen, but it is happening.
BingoBoingo: Baseball fascinates me in how it seems
to be
the intersection of dice games and atheleticism
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can report here on it so copyrasta containment not
that strong yet
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not Handegg so not really
that gladatorial
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform:
The San Francisco Giants getting fucked by a
team with a fraction of
their payroll.
BingoBoingo: I dunno about Yall, but I am watching Silicon Valley getting fucked with a frozen
turd wrought of
their own ethical lapses.
cazalla: this is just like when worm in rounders is asked how short he is and he responds "all
the way"
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kakobrekla: not sure if its enough
to pinpoint version