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Adlai is using "societies"
to refer
to other classes within and without anglophonia
Adlai: well
that's a nice crackocy, but i'm
talking about
the fact
that upscale anglophonia lives off
the sweat of other societies
assbot: Muffins si-o disputa de antropologie pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shit, you read my article about how fire was used
to cookl ?
undata: mircea_popescu: I see your point; my parents have a farm in rural PA. It would
take about
three weeks for
the more dangerous (meth-addled) neighbors
to be quiet.
mircea_popescu: as a result, when
the flock went over a cliff... romania was still way behind.
mircea_popescu: this was kinda
the boon of romania.
the slowest sheep in
the eu flock.
mircea_popescu: their alleged ignorance is merely unallignment. not being alligned with
the idiocy
that just failed is a bonus.
decimation: rally
the wagons, fuck you
to outsiders, plenty of resources, not a crushing population density
mircea_popescu: generally, go
to
the places currently "ignorant", you'll be safe
there.
decimation: yeah I
think
the south and west would survive
the best
mircea_popescu: undata nah, new york and california will be
the shitholes.
Adlai still maintains
that human society is cannibalistic, we just don't eat flesh directly
Adlai: well, i doubt
the US would let its capitol be ruled by local cartels, but
they might be a capital of an independant state
mircea_popescu: decimation which, you'll notice, is exactly how
the roman empire went.
undata: there are parts of
the southern US
that are just... astoundingly ignorant
decimation: asciilifeform: indeed.
there are powerful incentives for local col. x
to 'defect' and become
the warlord of kansas or whatever
undata: mircea_popescu: chicago gangs could at least hope
to establish some kind of crude order
BingoBoingo: Adlai: Detroit now has some farms within city limits
too
mircea_popescu: Adlai detroit is stable as is. in fact if it does collapse, detroit will be
the new capital.
Adlai: +BingoBoingo | I hear 2nd Lt's exist simply
to make NCO's lifes miserable //
true in
the idf
too
decimation: agreed. and private Y. is going
to be mulling
these
things over when he and his friends are getting killed over some vague pro-climate change agenda or whatever
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu:
The more I read on Argentina,
the more it seems like what
the US said it was going
to be
undata: there is a wide swath of
the south
that could easily start eating each other should
the walmarts run dry
mircea_popescu: worst failed state in
the history of european adventure,
the us.
decimation: but right now
the federal government means nothing but
taxation and disorder
to
the majority of
the populace
mircea_popescu: basically,
the great federal project failed,
the national project never succeeded, what's left is a sort of us of africa.
decimation: I
think such men can exist for localities
undata: I recall
the "need
to belong" also from
the other day
undata: and don't
they long for it?
undata: what's
the next step? doesn't someone come along and become
that meaning for
them?
BingoBoingo: Allegedly policical speech makes
the evening newscast with alleged attribution
mircea_popescu: once
the young sluts radicalise it's
the end. which is why
the
teenaged runaway chgicks are so important.
undata: "the dissolution of shared meaning" <<
this is a wonderful description of what's at work here
mircea_popescu: how is
this
then
to be leadership ? because
tradition-tradition ? mkay. only goes so far.
mircea_popescu: if you recall, back when
the us functioned people went
to see wtf jefferson said as
their evening's entertainment
mircea_popescu: but
the fact
that
the average person is not fascinated by congressional proceedings, let alone comprehend
them at all, is a serious warning sign.
mircea_popescu: and it does really not matter what sort of an ass
the rabi is privately.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental function of
the rabi (which is what stalin was, practically, at
the massive outskirts) is not going away.
decimation: right, I envison something like revolutionary france where
the king is derping around paris and all of
the peasants suddenly decide not
to pay
their
taxes or heed property rights
mircea_popescu: but in
the sense of,
this feat where random high functrioning idiots like
the kent guy quoted earier suddenly buy
the common delusion of "global warming" becomes impossible.
mircea_popescu: a lot
to signify, and rapidly deteriorating common language. not in
the sense of english,
decimation: without reliable air
transport and crumbling land-transport, america is a big place
assbot: Rate Your Students: Macy from Maize on
the Adult-ifying Power of
the Curse.
decimation: right, and
the question is: is col x. with his own local agenda going
to provide meaning or is gen y. in far away disaster-land?
undata: this goes back
to
the conversation recently about
the concerns of a soldier at war
mircea_popescu: because unmeaning phenomena are very bothersome
to simple folk.
undata: mircea_popescu: ah, not revenge, just a return
to function?
mircea_popescu: the main
thing is
that
this de facto promises
that every phenomenon carries meaning.
decimation: although I
think
there were various
times when it applied
to
technical experts
mircea_popescu: this is a subtle concept. like
the platonic notion of cosmos, an ordered universe.
mircea_popescu: undata ^
there you go. he didn't say anything about oligarchs. he just promised order.
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truck drivers had portraits of stalin in
their windshields (facing out.) possibly even now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wher's
the one where you discuss people driving a
truck with
the man's pic ? because he makes order ?
decimation: if you are a 'professional' like doctor or pharmacist it's pretty much just show up in uniform and learn how
to salute
mircea_popescu: undata well, it's a lengthy matter, hard
to fit in one line or w/e. but let me find you
this
thing about stalin.
decimation: asciilifeform: no
they still make you go
through 'officer canidate school' which is boot camp lite
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i bet you
the 20 year sergeants are pretty fucking happy with
that o.O
decimation: asciilifeform: of course,
they would pay you a bonus which you are generally required
to spend on a ford mustang
undata: mircea_popescu: correct me. I'd like
to know.
mircea_popescu: you actually
think
this is what putin did ?! or russian prole
thought he did ?!
mircea_popescu: undata: some guy comes along and pledges
to slap our oligarchs around; after a bit economic collapse
they'd eat
that shit up <<<
this is some massively funny shit.
BingoBoingo: I hear 2nd Lt's exist simply
to make NCO's lifes miserable
decimation: with no actual military experience other
than officer boot camp
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes with attention!
these are actually
the good ones!
decimation: 2nd lt is
the eqiv. of 'officer private'
ben_vulpes: how am i supposed
to read all
these lines i didn't write?!
decimation: mircea_popescu:
this is regularlly
the case in us mil
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i never heard of a colonel
that wasn't ever a private.
mircea_popescu: generally
the hussies flock
to
the businessmen rather
than
the warlords. at least from what i've directly observed.
ben_vulpes: why do dependopotamuses have sex in
the water?
mircea_popescu: find me any army colonel
that gets... cocksuckressES. plural ? gtfo.
decimation: my point is
that col. x is much more likely
to appoint himself 'mayor of dallas' and send a polite 'fuck you'
to
the remaining chain of command
decimation: right, but what does general y have
to say about what col x. does?
mircea_popescu: what should have kept hitler from digging
the desert looking for
the holy grail ?