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asciilifeform: that thing made me have emotions.
mircea_popescu: it's really an excellent piece, that.
undata: coward wouldn't even go for a window, not that he could break one the way he was swinging
undata: that vid of the 16 year old brat attacking his new truck has me in stitches
wywialm: if you were interested in my thoughts on it, i could throw my 2 cents
mircea_popescu: yeah, i know. anyway, nothing public about all that yet.
wywialm: the warsaw stock exchange begun with 5 stocks listed as well, and calculated the WIG
wywialm: what types of indices did you consider?
mircea_popescu: maybe moving the oix from the now gone options to stocks.
wywialm: btw, do you know of any trade on btc realized volatility or realized variance?
wywialm: what is the exact multiplier of x.eur?
wywialm: mircea_popescu - but that's not static. do i miss anything?
wywialm: (of course i should have a decent model to obtain reliable deltas)
wywialm: but thats not static
wywialm: i could "sort-of-replicate" option payoff trading on a spot market, each day buying/selling according to the delta (the difference being transaction costs and interest rate and noncontinuity)
mircea_popescu: really, it's a field that can take a lot more work, bitcoin financial synthesis.
mircea_popescu: not sure you can actually get it to be static
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a "sort-of" type of thing, obviously.
mircea_popescu: well, you'll likely have to throw a bond in there somewhere.
wywialm: mircea_popescu, quite well, but i don't see how can i use two linear instruments to obtain nonlinear payoff
punkman: I left namecheap search open in a tab and it crashed my browser, because javascript is awesome
assbot: Die Antwoord - Enter The Ninja (Acoustic Cover) - YouTube
asciilifeform: kakobrekla ty
asciilifeform: ;;later tell nubbins` if you have a trimmed bitcoind, kindly post somewhere where i can find it, i'd like to test run.
kakobrekla: not sure if that will work cause ':'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell nubbins`: if you have a trimmed bitcoind, kindly post somewhere where i can find it, i'd like to test run.
mircea_popescu: wywialm i supposew you could use the x.eur future ad interim
wywialm: besides, it's financially settled which depends on the reliability of the exchanges
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 362.61, Best ask: 364.63, Bid-ask spread: 2.02000, Last trade: 364.66, 24 hour volume: 17852.87309723, 24 hour low: 358.0, 24 hour high: 386.32, 24 hour vwap: 370.329378879
wywialm: isn't it only for binary trades? that appplies to bitbet as well
punkman: or that thing xinxi made
wywialm: ah, the standard way
wywialm: is there a way to change that status?
wywialm: i guess i'm the member of general public then...
mircea_popescu: it's not terribly open to the general public.
wywialm: speaking of a plan, does anything happen on the options market in BTC? in particular, does the (possibly otc) option market happen?
wywialm: i will definitely consider that as soon as i will have anything valuable to say
mircea_popescu: btw, you writing a piece for the qntra ?
wywialm: yes, i remember that
mircea_popescu: well to be perfectly fair, i had pre-deduced that last we met.
wywialm: mircea_popescu, good question. As you have not heard much from me, you can deduce that the repo otc business did not do well
wywialm: i'm unfamiliar with that one
Vexual: no that's a juroc joje
mircea_popescu: i thought eucalyptus sucked, as a five year old. and alcohol. and so on.
mircea_popescu: just as well, maybe. the same way, i think not.
asciilifeform: i understood that arbeit macht frei sucks as a five year old, just as well as now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well you wouldn't go through life with your living decided by a five year old's understanding of what's going on, neh ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu You may want to consult someone who actually follows soccer though. I'll look into the stuff later, but I think actually playing in that league this year would have been possible
kakobrekla: ;;later tell punkman ping
mircea_popescu: Vexual the whore. because she reuses her crack.
asciilifeform: unlike columbus/indies, just about all people have experienced freedom (in the sense of not having to work) - as children
Vexual: i guess the whore
Vexual: i think we should get katy pery in here
mircea_popescu: Vexual speaking of which, who is the more eco-friendly ? the drug dealer or the whore ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, there's land where "the indies" were supposed to be, too. that doesn't mean columbus found india.
mircea_popescu: but that there's a world does not actually give the prisoner's notion of "freedom" any legs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prisoners may have different reasons to want out of the jail, but that does not make freedom a 'figment of imagination' - there is actually a world outside of the jail.
mircea_popescu: <chetty> kakobrekla, matter of how much you like the foot? or the shoe .. <<< she has a point, i've seen women cut foot for prada heels.
mircea_popescu: note that the reality of the longing for the idol is not in question, nor does it rub off on the idol to make IT real.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> to abuse mathematical parlance, bumhood is a 'degenerate case' << but inasmuch as your argument rests on the "mental space" of the user, then therefore my observation IS satisfied, and indeed it's not a thing, but merely a figment of imagination.
mircea_popescu: so does this mean he IS playing or merely that he will be ?
mircea_popescu: the bet says "to play". the guy... signed a contract. to play. next year.
assbot: BitBet - Raul Gonzalez to play in NASL :: 0.12 B (59%) on Yes, 0.08 B (41%) on No | closed 2 days 18 hours ago
mircea_popescu: so i submit the following bitbet problem to the group : http://bitbet.us/bet/861/raul-gonzalez-to-play-in-nasl/
ben_vulpes: dig this: my favorite mechanical pencil, the the PaperMate Logo II, is now basically unavailable.
kakobrekla: cant argue with that
chetty: kakobrekla, matter of how much you like the foot? or the shoe ..
asciilifeform: if you like to live in forest and eat tree bark - $0 can be
chetty: I always thought it had more to do with being willing to live without whatever to the extent you would say $fuckyou to the boss, doesn't have to be money
asciilifeform: such that, e.g., you can lose 90% of the principal and remain fuckyou-enabled
Vexual: ascii trolls now?
bounce: that is the assumption anyway
asciilifeform: people with even an elementary brain do understand that perhaps one in a thousand can be a rentier
asciilifeform: 'fuck you money' is a very real item for which folks have a very real longing - because in fact, it is simply the desire to be released from workschwitz and arbeit macht frei.
Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agRzpnS_FGw the doom generation
asciilifeform: well it has a meaning - most folks aren't bums, and possibly don't even inhabit a mental space where bums exist (other than in the vaguely 'doomy' sense that death exists for them)
mircea_popescu: but that's besides the point isn';t it.
asciilifeform: and most of the speakers are not street bums, and so aren't sitting on a floor one cannot fall through
asciilifeform: 'fuck you money,' if i recall, has the following etymology. the idea that if you came into $fuckyou, you could utter 'fuck you' to the boss at the plant tomorrow, and continue to live at least as well (consumption) as presently, indefinitely
mircea_popescu: possession being nine tenths of the law and all that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform rat owns a rathole in the same sense she owns some sidewalk.
asciilifeform: does the woman?
asciilifeform: rats own trucks?
bounce: starship titanic had "purveyor of shoddy goods!" -- pretty damning in context
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well ? kid does not want to live like a rat., what now ?
bounce: apparently "lords of the realm", perhaps II
Vexual: you know about the asthmatic lesbian?
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s8XilZa2WY << kid does not want to live like a rat.
asciilifeform: well yes. phrase is uttered by humans, who of course have perspective - 'tall' means something else to a dwarf than to an architect
mircea_popescu: and that isn't a matter of perspective ?
mircea_popescu: well she doesn't seem to be working, does she.
mircea_popescu: well you're asking me ? your term! define it!
asciilifeform: the expression (afaik, american) traditionally means - one who is rich enough to never work again, if so wishes
Vexual: ben vuples the java king
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2009/viata-pe-drumuri/ < there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for instance by pointing out to the street whore that IS in fact fuck you rich ?
asciilifeform: not as such, but at least suggest how the apparent unicorns are simply goats with horn glued on
mircea_popescu: fuck you rich is like "youthful healthy". only the sickly and elderly know about it.
mircea_popescu: am i to satisfy a negative ?
asciilifeform: "fuck you rich" exists : in the imagination of the poor << lol, in what way does this not physically exist ?