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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i
think
that cost may be more
than a few hundies a year.
bounce: thing is, I do want
to filter
the pool for
the
talent regardless of parental wealth
undata: if only
there were some way
to cheaply stockpile and grant access
to documents.
mircea_popescu: like,
the sort of people churning out "science" about stuff.
mircea_popescu: but no, we can't do better, because otherwise
the fucking bums start nesting
there.
mircea_popescu: bounce "no
tax money spent on education" is a solution.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise
this is what
the existentialists used
to call "petit burgeois"
mircea_popescu: <undata> another attempt: all statements are implicitly advocacy. << only for
the utilitarian/methodist/usretardian school of
thought.
bounce: "free" as in part of
the crushing
tuitition debt package deal
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean it never is, i mean
the noun is outside
the domain of availability of
the adjective. like a circle can't be heavy, 2d figures have no weight)
mircea_popescu: selfless sacrifice on
the altar of satisfying
the societal expectation.
undata: *everything* is stated with
the implicit underlying statement
that
the worldview in which
the statement was made is
true.
undata: obviously someone
thought it worth writing about
the barrel or you wouldn't be saying so.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla
the problem wih
that approach is
that it's literally indistinguishable from
the
tack of
the 16yo kid in
the video.
kakobrekla: anyway,
the recipe is
to say fuck you, go in
the barrel and
then if you like climb out of it while keeping
the finger raised
undata processes on
that last bit for a moment
undata: one minute god-kings;
the next liberty
mircea_popescu: meyer lanski famously
told some older street
thoughs, as a 12 yo, "you get nuttin' for nuttin'".
that's all it is. at 12 he's as rich as me
telling
the sec how
to behave.
kakobrekla: thats why
they dont live in
the barrels
bounce: implying people wish
to be fucked over?
mircea_popescu: the point is still
there,
tho. fuck you rich is about fuck you, not about rich.
mircea_popescu: anyway, you;ll appreciate i didn't bring him up in
the definition of "fuck you rich"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform except his is
the exact opposite of odd. his best is even.
mircea_popescu: but on anecdotic evidence, whether people believe
that or don't is more of an indicator of whether
the polis is on
the upswing or downswing
than anything personal.
bounce: then I'll
take bestest
mircea_popescu: well,
the problem with "discussing
the art of living" is diogenes. as in, discussion requires common ground. which isn't a given.
undata: mircea_popescu: how does
that describe what I've said, in your view?
mircea_popescu: and diogenes being woken up by all
the ruckus, started pushing
the
tub he inhabited up and down and all around.
The20YearIRCloud: Oh a good note about RentalStarter, our banking partner has really stepped up in
terms of lending
to us
mircea_popescu: anyway, at some point
the city was being attacked by
the enemy, and so every citizen was running up and down
trying
to make
themselves useful.
to
the "society", by which of course you mean polis.
mircea_popescu: yeah, guy famously got caught jacking off in
the forum (roughly equivalent
to putting pron
tumblr pix in
the serious #b-a chan) and when confronted said
that his only regret is
that hunger doesn't also abate by rubbing
the stomach.
mircea_popescu: undata well sure, but
the problem with
this is diogenes. you know
the bath
tub story ?
undata: mircea_popescu: I would never force anyone
to live a certain way (provided it didn't encroach on my own) but I
think it's essential
to discuss ways
to improve
the art of living.
punkman: asciilifeform: assuming you asked
them, how much did olimex quote for cardano assembly?
undata: mircea_popescu: everyone says
that
to everyone with every sentence.
mircea_popescu: undata how about "you don't get
to say what should be interesting
to other people" ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, if your bar is
that,
then you'll never be happy.
takes a lot of dough,
that project.
undata: asciilifeform: how about "Life is about projects, and wealth should only be interesting inasmuch as it supports
those endeavors."
undata: mircea_popescu: you seem
to have many projects.
punkman: well maybe I'd rather live around
the guy
that minds his own business, his business being his farm, rather
than around guy
that has neverending stream of "projects"
undata: mircea_popescu: why live if you're a cheap copy of
the "rich" guy next
to you. Life is about projects, not piling up Hummers. Wealth fuels projects.
mircea_popescu: undata ok, but it's not very well expressed. what is
the value ?
mircea_popescu: how do you figure
the people in
the vid fit
that
theory ?
they don't seem overweight.
undata: the american idea
that
the highest good is "eat as much as possible" whether
the
thing eaten is food, cars, etc.
undata: mircea_popescu: it's hardly
that.
undata: they gorge
themselves on cheap "wealth" instead of generating actual wealth for
the 'society'
they're a part of
jurov: i'd rather listen
to 13yos
than old farts
undata: because
they're conditioned
to be utterly insecure about whatever
they lack, at no matter what level of wealth
undata: these are precisely
the americans I hope starve first when
their bank accounts no longer work
mircea_popescu: jurov no
they have
this
thing where
they make 13yos sing in front of
the whole congregation.
bounce: to get back at
the almighty or something?
mircea_popescu: bounce it's god's cruel joke. jews
take it even further with all
the
torah singing.
assbot: The Woodlands -
Texas' most celebrated master-planned community
bounce: isn't
that like a requirement for
teenagers? whine, at least 50% of
the
time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depends if you like male
teenager whining or not.
mircea_popescu: anyway, nothing wrong with all
those kids living at
that particular home, with
their wives, girlfriends and offspring. it looks just about big enough.
undata: probably 25, still living at home driving
the mchummer
undata: or whoever
the fat fuck standing by was
mircea_popescu: i doubt
the
truck's all
that good, looked like a guzzler.