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mircea_popescu: incredible, that guy. he's been doing 10bux trades with noobs for what, 3-4 years ? all paypal. he must be married to thiel or something.
mircea_popescu: is sturles still in that game ?
nubbins`: and with noobs asking to buy $10 btc with ppusd
TheNewDeal: lots of trolling tho
nubbins`: otc is a ghost town
mircea_popescu: i was in otc before that. and back in 2011/2012, -otc was pretty much like here.
nubbins`: april 2012, that predates me by maybe 7 months
TheNewDeal: nubbins` not those slimy hippos again
bounce: also, git allows for generation of patches that're relatively easy to send over a ml then feed'em back to git.
bounce: <asciilifeform> which miners contain ftdi ? << no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me if the typical USB miner's USB interface is exactly that. then again, maybe best leave that to miner programs.
mircea_popescu: **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 12 23:03:54 2012 << my first mention.
BingoBoingo has but a tiny bit of pre-log logs.
TheNewDeal: *back to penance*
mircea_popescu: thing of it the good way : that much less log to read.
mircea_popescu: fun times.
TheNewDeal: but they will remain mythical in my mind
TheNewDeal: someone once sent me a text file of the SD ipo
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well it was still around 10kiloBTC pizza time
TheNewDeal: I've been exposed to some
TheNewDeal: going to need a meme for this. It's not in the logs?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well honestly, back around .3.x the atmosphere was quite different. i dunno who or why would not patch when satoshi said patch.
kakobrekla: TheNewDeal idk there were several efforts made so far in that direction by various entities and i dont think anything came out of it
nubbins`: "follow the bit of the crypto coins"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: it was the sort of mandate that only Satoshi or what USgavin wishes he was could push
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo now that you mention it im vaguely remembering this
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The story if I recall correctly was Satoshi said upgrade nao, and then later told everyone the patched vulnerability in pay to ip
mircea_popescu: am i entirely off base in my belief the habbo hotel thing is pretty much the last remaining, well known and well advertised child porn marketplace online ?
nubbins`: you will regret scrolling to the bottom
mircea_popescu: well good then
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/01.jpg << me thinks is is like too fucking much to scrool through. but anyway.
asciilifeform: so aficionados of this apparatus can use it to heart's delight
asciilifeform: and apparently it is possible to get 'git' to cough up a plain unix patch.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> oh, also i nthe stupid pile : there used to exist a way to send coins by ip. it was a no-verification "tell me an address" special message. << killed in 0.3.x series. one of Satoshis later acts
TheNewDeal: kakobrekla has anything come of the pre-log logs allegedly held by Azelphur?
mircea_popescu: inexplicably, the nonsense made it all the way to 5.
cazalla: and with that, i'm off to beach for a little
mircea_popescu: oh, also i nthe stupid pile : there used to exist a way to send coins by ip. it was a no-verification "tell me an address" special message.
nubbins`: i hope there'll still be enough to fill a book ;/
mircea_popescu: less to print eh ?
nubbins` cheers the continued gutting
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think anyone made it to market ? i think just plans for.
asciilifeform: i know there were such.
mircea_popescu: which also should go to bed.
mircea_popescu: also, at least at some point there was explicit tor support in the code
assbot: Coinbase is in trouble... but it's their own damn fault. : Bitcoin
BingoBoingo gets the vibe Coinbase lacks coins to sell at any price https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2k2zr0/coinbase_is_in_trouble_but_its_their_own_damn/
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should route it through chittaggong
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> also, was there a special command line thing to add ips ? connect and addnode persist in newer iterations
bounce: then you'll just have to wait for the book
mircea_popescu: and is addr.txt still there ?
mircea_popescu: or was that taken out by .5 ?
mircea_popescu: also, was there a special command line thing to add ips ?
asciilifeform: liable to unexpected fragmentation.
asciilifeform: this one here's one of them hollow glass dildos
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mircea_popescu: ;;google bitcoin was written by the retarded
asciilifeform enjoying tour of sausage factory
mircea_popescu: it's a sickening display i tell you that.
asciilifeform: the 'randomize order in a deterministic way' thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i just meant the timestamping.
gribble: Chaaaang-Noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 11 weeks, 4 days, 9 hours, 29 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <Chaaaang-Noi> either never have time, or not have money....
gribble: Domain generation algorithm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_generation_algorithm>; Domain Generation Algorithms (DGA) in Stealthy Malware - Damballa: <https://www.damballa.com/domain-generation-algorithms-dga-in-stealthy-malware/>; Domain Generation Algorithm (DGA) - InfoSec Institute: <http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/domain- (1 more message)
asciilifeform: that's traditional malware code
mircea_popescu: set this to 0 so that accidentally overloks it, it's written by drunk geese.
mircea_popescu: it's nothing but add a week of this, substract 51 minutes of that, madness.
mircea_popescu: and btw, someone has to fix all the fucking magic number fest in the node discovery mechanism
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> bounce: why would you dream of running bitcoin under winblows? << I imagine people may want to run relay nodes on Win for variety.
asciilifeform: most of the planet, i suspect, has never seen a 'legit' winblows
nubbins`: <+asciilifeform> does anyone give a rat's arse about builds other than 'unix' ? <<< makefile.osx is a steaming shit heap in 0.5.3 anyway. i'll offer a working one in the future if there's demand
bounce: though if you're going to toss qt then perhaps there's a case to drop the whole windows thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think about it, they're prolly running pirated windows, too.
bounce doesn't dream of that, but people do that stuff
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and we are to help them?
asciilifeform: i can't think of any reason to do this
bounce: the windows build is a mingw build, no? kinda useful to be able to build that from linux
mircea_popescu: certainly not outside the capabilities of the us, and a fine reason why stock bitcoin is not safe anyway.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the node discovery mechanism is a fucking hole of the first degree. all an attacker really needs to do is take control of the "last resort" ips and then supress "normal" peer discovery.
asciilifeform: lol, someone does this ?
asciilifeform: does anyone give a rat's arse about builds other than 'unix' ?
asciilifeform: 'Oh that will not do, said Milder to Moulder / Oh what will you do then said Festel to Fose / Great guns and great cannon said John the Red Nose ... '
asciilifeform: what'll it be then
mircea_popescu: such a fucking kludge that.
asciilifeform assumes everyone here has a copy of the src
mircea_popescu: o the fallbacks ?
mircea_popescu: course at some point it had a bug where it kept a hash of the signature and so you could change the message around if you had an older key.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov was it you who was making the mailing list gizmo ?
midnightmagic: hrm. there might be a k-of-n threshold split key now, it would make sense.
midnightmagic: the key is held by gavin. satoshi still has it. i don't know who else. I don't think anyone else.
bounce: oh, nag people. oh well. guess I'll have to keep at it here then.
bounce: you need a keykeeper? what's the key do?
Apocalyptic: I've read from many sources thermos has it, but it could be wrong
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic it was sirius not thermos no ?
joecool: "12 things you might be doing wrong with your bitcoin"
Apocalyptic: there is thermos and a third fellow i forgot
mircea_popescu: that emergency messaging thing was more of a "let's bake a p2p messaging app into the core because you don't know what will happen and it may be needed."
joecool: ok cia too
joecool: gavin has that key right?
mircea_popescu: a lot of questions i can answer atm i couldn't even properly form in 2011, and im sure im not the only one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a lot of this stuff is you know, "just in case"isms driven by the fact that a few years ago bitcoin was entirely a novel concept.
asciilifeform: what use was there at any point for it?