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mircea_popescu: ziggamon: it’s different for different countries. but markup is generally 10-20%. << what i don't get is, most countries have local shops
that even give discount. why would someone pay a premium ? what's
the usecase like ?
bounce: that was entirely
true
to form:
they announced
they'd do it. everybody assumed it'd be bodged all
to hell and back again.
they released it. someone figured out a virus for it. [x] bodging confirmed.
jurov: my opinion on excel? "yeah call me when it is able
to simply read back csv excereted by itself."
jurov: embedding scripting lang in
the app isn't anything unusual... how m$ did it is another story
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> "we are looking
to hire a young cowhand, you will also be our napoleon" << haha
jurov: lol it's not inside spreadsheet. i never used it,
tho
bounce has so far successfully avoided more understanding
than
to look away in a hurry as soon as anything like it comes into view, so can't help you
there. so not sorry.
mircea_popescu: jurov does it have cell-aware goto ? so could you write a basic program in a 2d array
that's
the excel spreadshit ?
mircea_popescu: lol "visual basic for applications". "c for seafaring vessels. java for flowing liquids. ruby for rings". what
the fuck is a language for, applications, right ? what
the fuck else, gramas ?
jurov: cazalla how is cryptomoneyexpo different from all
the other chumpferences?
mircea_popescu: microsoft just heard
there's
this
thing "emacs"
that has
these
things "macros" so
they put a brick in
their
thing with MCRAO written on it.
mircea_popescu: excel has "macros" in
the sense people
trying
to emulate my sex life
through jacking off have lipstick on
their balls.
undata: mircea_popescu:
the effort
that guy poured into learning excel "macros" or whatever
their called could've been spent on lvl2 php
assbot: The mystery of
the disappearing Silk Road murder charges
undata: mircea_popescu: at a previous gig in a consulting shop, we encountered a (subsequently rejected) potential client which did exactly
this
bounce: there's plenty of
those in
tdwtf, no need
to imagine.
mircea_popescu imagines little shops of horror where excel spreadsheets have little magic cells where one puts magic values in order
to cause an excel-to-db commit
mircea_popescu: YOU CAN NOT USE ANY CLI STUFF.
THAT BRINGS VIRUSES AND OTHER
TERRORISTS
mircea_popescu: "your job will be
to write another leveldb
to excel 11.2.5
translation
tool
ben_vulpes: if
that's
the case,
they're not
the same company at all.
bounce: yes,
the original had "you will be our dba"; also implying probably
the only dedicated
tech guy
to work with
the eggheads in analytics
mike_c: yeah, just saying. he's doing some odd
tx's.
ben_vulpes: if it's
the same company,
they've got one in every single customer dc
kakobrekla: i see mike_c heh.
that one isnt pointing
towards me
though.
mircea_popescu: "we are looking
to hire a young cowhand, you will also be our napoleon"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: p. sure i know
that company
mircea_popescu: jurov: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know who ? linus. << actually he was so disgusted
to unity he switched back
to kde <<< he kept switching between gnome and kde, at least
two or
three back and forths.
mircea_popescu: bounce: "we're looking for a junior database developer. you will also be our DBA. we do big data and require
tsql skills. we're active in 80% of
the country's hospitals. we're an entirely microsoft shop." --
this advert frightens me. <<< omfg holy shit.
assbot: Bitcoin
Transaction 18d8d42c2e09fce04f1613869e4e60beb17a4d311e0dfa452311fb06598c6a0e
mike_c: not
the only
time it happened from
that address.
ben_vulpes: interesting, blockchain barfs on calculating
transacted
total
mircea_popescu is now curious what ppl are discussing, loads up
the logs
mike_c: do you know who sent it
to you?
mike_c: although..
that may not be
totally retarded.
mike_c: somebody had on
their ledger
two amounts
they owed
that guy and
their code made
two outputs in
the
tx.
kakobrekla: you just make
tx larger and next ouputs smaller
ziggamon: the
topup method is for most cases a direct-to-mobile, bitrefill sends a request
to
the distributor, who
then sends a request
to
the operator, and
the user gets a nice sms saying ”your account was
topped up”
ziggamon: when
the service determins it
to be sufficiently confirmed. figured I’d experiment with
that. currently it happens at one confirmation, will be adjusted depending on feedback, fraud etc
assbot: Bitcoin
Transaction 9654c0477b576e6244ceb1e48ef14d3bfb349d6614876e04f204f1bd656f86d4
bounce: the saddest
thing is
that
the SI has quite a neat system in place already, but nobody deigns
to use it.
RagnarDanneskjol: 'Topup is delivered
the second
the
transaction clears' - how do you characterize a 'cleared'
transaction and what method/process is used
to fill
the phone account
ziggamon: fair enough. yeah,
there’s been a lot of
talk about
that. not super happy about
the bits word, but I do
think moving
the decimal separator makes sense
undata: or at least
that's where
there was a lot of rabble regarding
undata: yeah I
think "bits" emerged from /r/bitcoin
mike_c: but overall i
think it's fine. undifferentiated field so it's largely just a marketing challenge.
bounce: probably not a good idea
to invent new
terms in support of catering
to
the stupid, causing more confusion
mike_c: to me it feels a bit confusing. i look at
the price list and it says "for 10 usd pay
this bits" and I really don't know how much I'm paying.
bounce: what'd
the progression be
then? satoshi, bits, nybbles, bytes, cents ?
ziggamon: will make it optional eventually.
the actual invoice shows
the price in normal decimal bitcoin
ziggamon: :) 100 satoshis.
trying
to get it newb friendly, gives more readable numbers for price comparison
ziggamon: it’s different for different countries. but markup is generally 10-20%. each supported operator has a pricelist
that can be checked
through
the ”supported countries” bar
bounce happens
to not have a number in a supported country so can't check. I don't suppose you have a list of fees and stuff somewhere?
ziggamon: bounce: it’s a distributor for now. If we manage
to get usage we’ll go straight
to operators, and
then prices will be much lower as well
bounce: who're you going
through
to get
that many countries?
bounce: need
to kick
that osx
thingy of yours
to make it stop substituting fancy utf8 for simple apostrophes
mike_c: doesn't seem like a
terrible idea.
mike_c: hard
to know without
trying it.
ziggamon: www.bitrefill.com, it’s a site where one can
top up prepaid mobile minutes, currently works in 115 countries.
ziggamon: thanks for voice :) Want
to show you guys a little project of mine, looking for feedback
assbot: The mystery of
the disappearing Silk Road murder charges
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: did you produce a blob of Satoshi's writings on
the crypto mailing list?
jurov: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know who ? linus. << actually he was so disgusted
to unity he switched back
to kde
jurov: mircea_popescu: jurov's blog is not vulnerable
to
the wp reflected ddos
thing << cuz it's not wp
bounce: "we're looking for a junior database developer. you will also be our DBA. we do big data and require
tsql skills. we're active in 80% of
the country's hospitals. we're an entirely microsoft shop." --
this advert frightens me.
mircea_popescu: punkman basically desperation is what
they're smoking.
assbot: Caged
Tit pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
punkman: I wonder what
these eutards are smoking
punkman: "Eurostat arrived at
the €2.1bn figure on
the basis of new methods of calculating member states’ GNI since 1995,
taking account of previously unreported or under-reported black economy elements, such as drug dealing and consumption or
the sex industry."
punkman: did assbot change how it sends PMs? It keeps opening new windows in my client every
time it sends a line.
assbot: U.K. Will Have
to Pay an Extra $2.6 Billion
to EU Budget - WSJ - WSJ
assbot: Swedish Enforcement Agency
To Look If Debtors Own Bitcoin | Qntra.net
assbot: Beware
the Chinese FX reserve fall | FT Alphaville
decimation: the uncertain money supply contributes
to over-bidding of assets
decimation: asciilifeform: even
though hardly anyone is involved in producing food, we are still not free from wage-bondage
BingoBoingo sometimes forgets abused Usians aspire
towards more
than 200 square feet and a flush
toilet in
their residence
decimation: apparently
the boring
train station
that hosts successful business is 'racist', because it doesn't have an african corner or something
assbot: Did diversity miss
the
train in Union Station's architecture? -
The Denver Post
decimation: most of
that
tax is paid by kulaks,
to fund programs
that assault
their dignity and liberty
decimation: this would have been considered ridiculous even by roman
tax farmers
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah even with
the
tax breaks above, a person is going
to pay at least 30-40%
tax
BingoBoingo: <decimation> one can depreciate
the house
to $0 over 30 years << One can depreciate house
to a liability within a day