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jurov: mike_c i just pulled all
the addresses from
the wallets and imported
them (into electrum)
Mikayla: Just
takes one man, or a group,
to excell in hacking and
to pick you as a
target
Mikayla: not worried about
trusting windows
too much?
mike_c: the only
thing i use bitcoin on windows for is watching wallets.
mike_c: perhaps
there is no use case.
mike_c: i am struggling
to defend my position.
jurov: if
this is split off, qt is not needed
ben_vulpes: win32 stuff isn't necessary
to run
the
thing under cygwin, correct?
mod6: someone could make a worthy ui
to interact with
the baseline b-a bitcoind.
then qt is out of core, and lives in someother project.
ben_vulpes: avg user should
throw down 200 dollars for a netbook and fucking run unix.
mike_c: avg user can run armory on
top of b-a bitcoind.
ben_vulpes: this is a *tool* for people who *use
tools*, not consumers.
ben_vulpes: if qt's nixed,
the average user's nixed as well.
jurov: i don't get
this discussion
jurov: we already decided
to nix qt, so no avg windows user
mike_c: mhm. perhaps
the average windows user gets
the fuck out of b-a, but kicking
them out of bitcoin seems a bit much.
ben_vulpes: the average windows user shuts
the fuck up and uses unix.
mike_c: because what is
the average windows bitcoin user supposed
to use now?
the foundation binary?
ben_vulpes: anyways. is bitcoin not here
to also end m$?
ben_vulpes: he wants it
to build on mac s/e as well
ben_vulpes: well asciilifeform if you're willing
to perform
the surgery do it. otherwise, it'll have
to wait right?
jurov: but not sure
this is useful
jurov: if you snip off
the blockchain so
that it just relates
transactions,
then most of
the complexity goes away
jurov: yup. i am in, only it will
take few days
till i'll do
the gpg-only mailman and assure myself it can go online
ben_vulpes: what else do you want
to do
to
the
thing?
ben_vulpes: as much as i'd like it gone, i'd also like something in
the wild before
the stoolies attempt
to fork.
jurov: it§s running x days, you want
to get getinfo()
mike_c: argv isn't
the best cross-process communication strategy.
jurov: asciilifeform: how do you want
to communicate with
the daemon?
ben_vulpes: at some point calling bitcoind cli args started
talking
to
the json rpc api
TheNewDeal: Problem with btc options is
the convexity
TheNewDeal: And a strike
that wasnt 10 % out of
tge monay
TheNewDeal: Ide consider going up
to 10, for
the right price
TheNewDeal: Agreed, but .25 btc underlying is
tiny
TheNewDeal: Im just getting excited
thinking about options
TheNewDeal: Just wanted
to make sure I remembered how he did it
wywialm: we will perhaps return
to
that later
wywialm: re: quoting. i imagined
that if usd is
the currency at, say, CBOE, and
they quote options in usd, and here
the currency is btc, we should quote options on eur or usd in btc and in usdbtc exchange rate :)
wywialm: yes, i would - as i said i would even consider 60 days, but
then it wouldn't be much of unit
testing
los_pantalones: yeah, worrying about
the width as a % of
the underlying is not a bad way
to look at
things
TheNewDeal: Ive never seen
that, but ive really only looked on finance.yahoo
wywialm: but
they are quoted either in dollar
terms or implied vol
wywialm: well it is common
to refer
to premiums as % of underlying
TheNewDeal: If i were
to write a call for a stock option. It would be quoted in stock/usd not
the other way around
wywialm: i just
thought it might be a good idea
to quote it as x.eur is quoted
TheNewDeal: wywialm let's
talk more about a december 1 delivery
wywialm: now usd is approx. 0.002788 btc per 1 usd, if strike for put is 0.0025
then if usd is lower
than
that you pay me (usdbtc_rate - 0.0025) x notional_quantity, am i right?
wywialm: TheNewDeal, it would be
the case if
the options were on usd (that is approximately what i have in mind).
TheNewDeal: Would it just be
the differnce of (actual - strike) convertes into btc at current rate?
HeySteve: mircea_popescu, Mikayla will be back
tomorrow after I've explained process further
wywialm: i might ask in name of mp, if i'm wrong he certainly will correct me -
the options were on btcusd exchange rate and
thus delivered 1 btc.
wywialm: yes, i was incorrectly asking you
to deliver
through sepa while having in mind asking you
to accept sepa delivery
The20YearIRCloud: asciilifeform: why has nothing more been said about
that superconductor?
wywialm: los_pantalones,
TheNewDeal
thanks anyway for your offers
HeySteve: if I can eliminate feed costs
this way, should help aquaculture business a lot
HeySteve: k I am running a
trial at
the moment, fish eating it
The20YearIRCloud: HeySteve: I really want
to do it if/when I get property in
the country
HeySteve: hey
The20YearIRCloud, get any further with black soldier fly?
The20YearIRCloud: But not as bad as detroit, and Ohio has a pretty great senate/house
that keeps
the rest of
the state from
turning into a cesspool.
The20YearIRCloud: It's been pretty close
to
there for a while. Cleveland is extraordinarily poorly managed