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mircea_popescu: Mikayla well somehow i don't
think you hacked into a south african ip.
jurov: sha2-type algo will work fine even with 100 bits from dice, but computation is
tedious
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: so far i got qt and ssl snipped. mega-triumph! lol << weren't you supposed
to work for nsa anyway!!1
Mikayla: ask no questions
tell no lies :)
jurov: mircea_popescu: but
the problem is, how
to compute bitcoin address from it without exposing privkey
to electronics
Mikayla: told you I'm new
to
this :P
Mikayla: not winning with
this eerie glow
mircea_popescu: mike_c: argv isn't
the best cross-process communication strategy. <<<
this is
true. and at least
the best debugged anyway.
assbot: Romanian Dicelist pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
jurov: to get 1024bits you'll need 400 dice
throws. and lesser rsa is vulnerable
Mikayla: do you want clear quality
to as
the image?
ben_vulpes: nobody's going
to complain, Mikayla ;)
mod6: to outline
the foundations mission
Mikayla: so I've wasted my
time finding better light?
mircea_popescu: so do it
tomorrow in
the sun,
this place isn't going anywhere.
Mikayla: will
try. I use energy saving bulbs in my home which isn't very friendly with my webcam
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: Problem with btc options is
the convexity <<< prolly
the largest, right after "no actual spot"
mircea_popescu: Mikayla none of
the previous girls died of face exposure so far.
Mikayla: I wasn't sure about exposing my face and it is night
time here :)
mircea_popescu: Mikayla do you see
the girls in
the article ?
they are clearly visible in good light. your
thing looks is neither.
undata: maybe a pi image could be built which would help with
the "by hand" calculations?
mircea_popescu: not more
tedious
than 100 multiplications of
two digit numbers
jurov: i had in mind RSA something.. multiplying 200digit numbers would be
tedious but doable
assbot: Church-Turing
Thesis -- from Wolfram MathWorld
jurov: church-turing on pediwiki seems
to be something unrelated
Duffer1: oh nm
that was pen n paper mining
Duffer1: i believe reddit beat you
to
that one
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna write a qntra article
titled "how
to calculate your own bitcoin address, pen on paper only" ? it'd be a great
thing.
mircea_popescu: jurov yes. but documenting it would be a very good
thing
to do.
jurov: btw
this is actually good food for
thought - is
there a process one can cryptograpically safely *on paper* generate public key (btc address) from private key?
undata: asciilifeform: anything of which you
think I should be wary.
undata: asciilifeform: how best
to generate a safe paper wallet?
davout: asciilifeform undata it's
the best way
to remove any kind of prng from
the key-generation process
undata: davout: ah ok,
that gets around asciilifeform's criticism, correct?
davout: undata: dice + wordlist, use
the pi
to
transform
the passphrase into something you can send coins
to
undata: asciilifeform:
that however would do
the idea in for sure.
Mikayla: so best I wait for my friend
tomorrow?
undata: the qr code could be
transferred
to something more durable
thereafter, maybe
jurov: Mikayla: because
there is no official exchange rate
jurov: asciilifeform: you don't have
to use it, by default it is even switched off (raspbian)
undata: ben_vulpes:
that would be a consideration
Mikayla: ben_vulpes
they show different values
jurov: if you go so far
then destroy
the printer
too
undata: ben_vulpes: oh hey, btw. I will at some point use a fresh pi and
thermal printer
to print some paper wallets,
then destroy
the pi
jurov: Mikayla how do
they looks suspect? can you explain an example?
ben_vulpes: this is a pretty funny conversation given
the previous conversations about noobs and bitcoin
undata: surely
there's a
trilema bootstrapping post
undata: and ensuring
that what you downloaded is what was purported
Mikayla: A friend suggested it and had
to offline,
that's how I ended up here and I'm
trying
to learn but a lot looks suspect
Mikayla: I appreciate
the help for me
the noob :)
Mikayla: considering any person can make a website I prefer
to ask for reputable ones
Mikayla: opening all
the links
thanks
Mikayla: I really don't want
to be screwed over
Mikayla: The fact
that
there are over 100 links makes me nervous
TheNewDeal: I
think bitcoin.org explains
the differences
TheNewDeal: No such
thing mikayla, its like software
Mikayla: undata I'm not
that stupid :)
thank you :)
Mikayla: is it best
to pick on in your own country?
Mikayla: the way some of
them look I don't know.... lol
jurov: Mikayla: it's best
to
try
them all
Mikayla: I would like
to open a bit wallet but not sure about
the links I see online. Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance
bounce: could argue it's an oversight in patch. for collaboration it's still better
to show what's being done
than
to just say "stuff got deleted" ('yes, but what
then?')
bounce: asciilifeform: by
the by, you familiar with "patch -u"?
though
there's really no shortcut for "delete
this file", you still get
to see
the whole of what is being deleted even if it is
the entire file.
mike_c: use case #1: a business could allow public web access
to a wallet and interested parties would know it is solvent and where money is going.
mike_c: but you can brush your own
teeth.
mike_c: if it gets hacked.. well,
then you should create a new wallet for privacy.
mike_c: well, primarily it would provide web access
to a watch-only version of your wallet.
mike_c: hm. i wonder if
this would be a useful web service. upload your electrum/armory public key and it will watch your wallet.
jurov: and electrum can do
the watching without privkeys,
too