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decimation: it's a weird quirk of their particular abbatoir
undata: mircea_popescu: an anonymous p2p network would permanently solve the copyright thing; those guys can always go after the seedbox hosts
asciilifeform: decimation: anyone ask them? (do you remember being asked? i don't)
decimation: asciilifeform: but the situation is even worse in the us, why do the 'thinking folk' seem to accept it as some kind of bedrock of civilization?
undata: mircea_popescu: still I can run tor *here*
decimation: I'm not really sure how one could 'design privacy' while simultaneously expecting to correspond with whoever comes down the street
mircea_popescu: don't try to buy a special, "private" hammer.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck would awk be if someone tried to rewrite it to include privacy ?
mircea_popescu: undata listen, you're misdesigning here. the "privacy" angle is not to be solved at the tool level.
undata: decimation: that's what's wrong with bittorrent.
asciilifeform: 'property rights' of the pissants << gotta understand the inevitable reaction when people move a property boundary. and especially when they move it, as if they owned the universe, straight through your brain, wishing to cut off half
undata: decimation: what would be wrong with some anonymity in the mix?
undata: I guess tribler's working on a tor fork
undata: why did p2p seem to stall at bittorrent?
asciilifeform: and of pragmatic. never know when might need to make a trade.
asciilifeform: ru folks (the thinking kind) collect warez as a matter of principle.
decimation: as in, no one recognizes the 'property rights' of the pissants?
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I feel the compulsion to collect them in case 1984 << you are doing a good thing.
asciilifeform: but in practice, there is iron resistance
asciilifeform: decimation: on paper, 1990s oligarchs sold even the pre-copyright-era (ussr to 1974) works to various pissants
undata: seems to have everything
decimation: asciilifeform: what is the ru copyright law? do they thumb their nose at the bern convention
asciilifeform: and that's... plain ascii.
decimation: I feel the compulsion to collect them in case 1984
mircea_popescu: which i think will be pretty shattery. roughly same topic.
mircea_popescu: but incidentally : i have for the past hour been writing on this piece
decimation: asciilifeform: mancur olson lived somewhere nearby. he pretty much came to the same conclusion
mircea_popescu: low calorie milk, greaseless oil, all the good stuff.
asciilifeform: templeos << terry davis is a 'stainless steel rat.' just, a more skilled one than i am
mircea_popescu: if you can do that, why stop there ? make round cubes,
asciilifeform: (who, it appears, believes that organized stampede is the answer. well, doesn't really believe it answers the puzzle, but thinks it wrong not to at least try)
decimation: or maybe that templeos guy
decimation: how do you escape the factory and roam free?
decimation: asciilifeform: the concluding question being: in front of which chumpatron's maw do you wish to graze?
asciilifeform: even if a figure like jamie dimon is more analogous to an insect queen than to a 'secret hitler' -
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform considere the case of the farming ants. are the ants intelligent ? no. are the teats of the bugs milked in time ? yes.
decimation: with monkeys bombarding them with poo
asciilifeform does not believe in free-range sheeple. or rather, is quite certain that they've been extinct since some time prior to, say, babylon. and the only kind of sheeple to be found today are in meat processing plants - which can only exist if there are eaters.
mircea_popescu: those mythical women that are perpetually hawt and perpetually alone.
mircea_popescu: the islant of smart bureaucrats is like ten miles off the island of the amazons
asciilifeform: there's an inexhaustible supply of them, after all
mircea_popescu: but this is evolving towards a rehash of the meta-nsa discussion we've really done to death
asciilifeform: decimation: why would such dignified folks show up in person. represented by idiots of the first kind, in nearly all cases.
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt they exist at all.
decimation: why would they show up in irc?
decimation: I don't think they are involved here
asciilifeform: the ones who've not only smelled but stoked the ovens.
asciilifeform: out of the other - the 'full spectrum dominance' folks who know exactly what they're doing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in this case, i actually meant money.
asciilifeform: out of one, the useful idiots are fed. the ones who actually swallow it all.
mircea_popescu: maybe they should paint foodstamps in different colors
asciilifeform: there are two troughs.
mircea_popescu: so one could argue they're the same group in the end. but anyway.
mircea_popescu: now, sure all the idiots in the end are fed out of the same through
mircea_popescu: decimation i very much doubt there's any relation there.
decimation: it's interesting that they would go so far as to pay someone to attack sites
asciilifeform: nah that's on the stage
asciilifeform: what do they talk about under their buggery blankets
asciilifeform: when we aren't looking and the lights are out.
asciilifeform: i can't help but wonder what our little friends the gnomes chat about amongst themselves.
mircea_popescu: you just don't understand how the world works.
asciilifeform: anything that isn't bolted down, will be shaken loose. very soon.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform myeah, "anything that isn't bolted down" or how did it go.
asciilifeform: pruning << the shitgnomes don't dare a hardfork. so they'll happily try a 'lossy softfork' - see how much functionality can be degraded (in this case, how much of the blockchain can be alzheimered) without hardforking.
mircea_popescu: people tend to forget just how self-defeating idiocy is.
mircea_popescu: and therefore MUST HAVE!!!1
mircea_popescu: they are like the usual assetions of the <del>socialist</del> five year old : they neglect everything except for what he wants.
mircea_popescu: "we do not want to die."
decimation: other than "the network would be more valuable if it did more transactions per second"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do messages of less than 32 MB transmit regularly? are you aware of a discernable phase boundary for transmission reliability?
ben_vulpes: how would i get the size of an arbitrary block?
mircea_popescu: but as a general moral of the thing, one's best be careful to post on their blog trashing idiots like us* or else they risk appearing in victorious tweets like "oh noes, 5 economists reviewed this!!!", which is exactly how the empire works.
mircea_popescu: and if she did say this sucks, i have no way to know. which isn't consistent with the "smart" rating, sadly.
mircea_popescu: one that somehow forgot to come by and say "hey check out the derpage"
decimation: well to be fair she was just a reviewer
gribble: You rated user princessnell on Thu Jun 12 00:45:23 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: She's smart..
mircea_popescu: somebody's got some splainin' to do.
mircea_popescu: ahahahh wait, she's one of the five economists ?
ben_vulpes: (just trolling - all the paupers have to)
assbot: Blocksize Economics | The Bitcoin Foundation
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell princesnell https://bitcoinfoundation.org/2014/10/blocksize-economics/ << what, you're collaborating with the empire nao?
ben_vulpes: which has got to be the most orwellianly named product out there
ben_vulpes: decimation: i used it for time tracking before we started using harvest
decimation: ben_vulpes: just cause. I find it quite useful, the best personal organizer I have tried
mircea_popescu: as in sometimes they do, more or less impredictably so.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it's kind of the intention, but it does not really work
ben_vulpes: side note about the 32mb number: andresen claims that as the largest message that can be sent in a single bitcoin p2p message.
ben_vulpes: integration with grep, ag, and the kill-ring visualization are pretty fantastic.
decimation: huh, thanks for the tip, will look into it
decimation: yeah that sounds great
decimation: yeah I use ido now but it's only marginally better than stock
assbot: Add a switch to allow running in a pruned state by rdponticelli Pull Request #4481 bitcoin/bitcoin GitHub
ben_vulpes: (mircea_popescu: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4481/files#diff-c865a8939105e6350a50af02766291b7R605 << the first one, de-typo'd)
ben_vulpes: fuzzy completion in all of the places in which one'd want it?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: terminal kill ring, incomplete backwards-kill, os paste holder
ben_vulpes: i finally got helm dialed in (and oh my god, i didn't know that emacs could get that much better
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes two typos, and since it was consistent it made me curious :D
ben_vulpes: but it's on the roadmap for 2015
ben_vulpes: i've yet to set it up myself
decimation: it's enraging that firefox doesn't honor emacs movements