asciilifeform: pointedly the 'flow' should not be used as the input for any operation , other than to display to user

asciilifeform: 2) recurse backwards from these.

asciilifeform: ... 1) to take the 'out' hashes of the ~one~, specific, patch being 'pressed to'

asciilifeform: the correct press algo is

asciilifeform: the press algo i wrote was extremely lame , and mod6's vtron went astray by copying it, rather than the item in my head, lol

asciilifeform: actually i am reading my orig V nao and shuddering

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: and pictured that it was written while sitting on a stake

asciilifeform: pretty sure i've read this

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: v as i originally devised it, specifically 'grasps' by ~1~ leaf, when calculating a press

asciilifeform: diana_coman: the v99 behaviour is the correct one : pressing 'siblings' automagically, is a mistake; if you want the contents of both 'siblings', you oughta have a 'unifier' patch that pulls both in.

asciilifeform: o hey hey hey , lbj!!!

asciilifeform: state-space representation << recall lagrange's mechanics.

asciilifeform extends imaginary cylinder hat.

asciilifeform: it!

asciilifeform: aha!!

asciilifeform: and compiles pretty cleanly.

asciilifeform: and quite well-standardized.

asciilifeform: but otherwise strong alternative to the bell labs idiocies.

asciilifeform: it loses to ada in re: clarity and bound-guarantees

asciilifeform: btw, ftr asciilifeform considered f77 as close runner-up for 'in what to write ffa and all from nao on'

asciilifeform: earlier was , them crunchings. inner loops in asm etc.

asciilifeform: that was at same place, but later

asciilifeform: at one time asciilifeform was a meat version of this, for a living

asciilifeform: for those annoting little cpubound problems like hbomb implosion contours etc

asciilifeform: really the endgame of this is 'compile to fpga'

asciilifeform: 'compile to c'

asciilifeform: this was even used quite recently, in certain schemetrons

asciilifeform: 'compile to fortran'

asciilifeform: oyea phf pretty sure i saw this

asciilifeform: then follow the intro linked in chan subj, on mircea_popescu's www .

asciilifeform: ^ reg with deedbot

asciilifeform: !!help

asciilifeform: so go and fix

asciilifeform: !!up freetlas

asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/d2YLr/?raw=true << plaintxtization of the lulgem from phf's link

asciilifeform: ( famously, all cams near pentagon 'oops, stopped working' that day )

asciilifeform: where were these folx on '9/11' !111

asciilifeform: lol, for spam

asciilifeform: aha!

asciilifeform: a 'pistol only' cut , as discussed earlier, would be interesting

asciilifeform: aa

asciilifeform: ( i assume it also sheds various mempoolisms ? )

asciilifeform: trinque: this is neato and i'd like to try it

asciilifeform: i gotta wonder how mircea_popescu squares pictures like this with 'net worth is proxy for intelligence', 'executives are skilled professionals', and similar ☟︎

asciilifeform: waterlolfall

asciilifeform: whatever else ionosphere does, it doesn't 'bitbetate'.

asciilifeform: ( as well as dozen hops of prb nonsense )

asciilifeform: rather than waiting for 10,000km of usg.cisco and usg.fiber relays to churn.

asciilifeform: theoretically a miner who gives a damn re max rake, oughta tune in when if e.g. mircea_popescu were to pump out a fat tx on sw.

asciilifeform: i'll admit ftr that this item was one of the underlying seekrit crackpotteries behind asciilifeform's interest in shortwave ☟︎

asciilifeform: hence 'cut through'

asciilifeform: the 1 caveat is that if the tx dun cut through the kilometre of prb and get to china, it dun get mined

asciilifeform: aa yea

asciilifeform: ( btw did everyone grasp why 'wires' dun work ? )

asciilifeform: 'fuck the scum'

asciilifeform: sorta where i was going with experiments such as 'wires' etc

asciilifeform doesn't disagree.

asciilifeform: as i understood trb historically was 'and here is bitcoin minus the post-2011 barnacles, deviate at your own risk, derps, it will still be there an' working'

asciilifeform: i gotta ask, in what terms instead

asciilifeform: !!up mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: it isn't as if the heathens read, or ever read, it

asciilifeform: starting with 1940s crypto-ag and going on to today.

asciilifeform: they have a whole fleet of these shills, 1000s

asciilifeform: how else.

asciilifeform: yes functionality but gotta be careful that the cut parts sum to at least the customary functionality.

asciilifeform: ideally reference-trb is capable-of-everything, incl. cpumining ( see the dozen or so threads at this point )

asciilifeform: could be a peer, but 'lan peer'

asciilifeform: idea is that it should not be gummable by anything that happens on the net.

asciilifeform: ( but contain no networking code on its own )

asciilifeform: it'd be 'supreme court' for the whatever As connected.

asciilifeform: B in the 'cmdline' model wouldn't ever on its own power send anything, or act autonomously

asciilifeform: and hand-carried payloads.

asciilifeform: will even observe, that it is possible to have a bitcoin net with only sneakernet connectivity, with cmdline eatblock-ing nodes.

asciilifeform: without is-this-a-block-based-on-all-known-blocks-down-to-genesis, it ain't a node, it's used cumrag

asciilifeform: aha!

asciilifeform: bash-driven, at any rate. ( still pretty massive cpp ball behind the scenes, considering that all of the remaining 'grandfather's pistol' logic lives ultimately in the is-this-an-actual-block evaluator )

asciilifeform: it dun need to persistently grind.

asciilifeform: btw 'block node' per mircea_popescu's cut , doesn't have to be a 'daemonic' process at all, even. can run as 1shot cmdline util, that can be asked to eat a candidate-block ( and report success/failure ), or disgorge a previously-accepted block (by header , or by height) ; then terminates

asciilifeform: ( and writes, for that matter. )

asciilifeform: O(1) fetches.

asciilifeform: i.e. giant mmap.

asciilifeform actually has the db item, based on 'horsecocks' routine posted earlier ; but not ready for primetime and on hold pending ffa/p release

asciilifeform: i.e. copied it elsewhere, and it mounted ?

asciilifeform: all i can say is, to date only observed db death on boxes with actual bit rot.

asciilifeform: afaik it's entirely impossible without rotting iron

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755987 << i have seen this item a grand total of twice, and both times -- dying hdd ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( and soon 2 moar )

asciilifeform: and speaking of all of this, asciilifeform has a gentootronic box ready to crate up and enthrone immediately when BingoBoingo proclaims his rack.

asciilifeform: aha, mempoolism

asciilifeform: the bottom limit is what it takes to move in a block every 10m . i.e. ~2kB/s.

asciilifeform does the arithmetic, yea mircea_popescu is prolly right

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most painful spot is prolly the bringup of new node with its 200G

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: well yes, i'm aware that there is not a literal 100mb/s modem, lol

asciilifeform: hey, slow modem beats no modem

asciilifeform: prolly would work for, e.g., qntra, aha

asciilifeform: ^ subj.

asciilifeform: !#s incitatus

asciilifeform: i did.