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mod6: i think it did say that at one point. i don't have my previous revisions handy atm.
mircea_popescu: the bitcoin reference. it's a thing.
mircea_popescu: mod6 ben_vulpes "This charter establishes the existence of a virtual organization whose mission is to maintain the Bitcoin reference client." <<< maybe strike client from there ?
mod6: Hi all, ben_vulpes and I have a new revision for the foundation charter. http://dpaste.com/16Z4M68
mircea_popescu: cazalla http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/#comment-109313 << check that shit out.
asciilifeform: wired also diddled, for at least some subscribers, according to rumour mill
TomServo: Seems the article only mentions phones and wireless.. unless I'm missing it.
asciilifeform: wired << afaik they do.
TomServo: asciilifeform: This is only for wireless clients correct? Though, why wouldn't they also do the same to wired customers?
punkman: solution towards end here: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2013-July/047118.html
ben_vulpes: was going to say.
punkman: apparently not possible unless you have all the keys
punkman: will test later
ben_vulpes: how do you get pgp to spit such out?
punkman: it will take unencrypted but compressed messages
ben_vulpes: but that's not what you've got implemented.
ben_vulpes: what i'd prefer is a text blob and detached signatures.
ben_vulpes: it's left to users.
punkman: but maybe good idea to test what happens in gnupg library
punkman: ben_vulpes: do they look any different?
Naphex: you can use my node if you want to propagate or push
Naphex: well just sign the transactions and send em to a stable node
punkman: to send transactions?
punkman: Naphex, bot sends transactions to notarize gpg-signed messages
punkman: apparently I got to resend transactions manually if network fails
mats_cd03: if hes not a magician what is he? inquiring minds wish to know
mats_cd03: such a tease
Naphex: "Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are right and God isn't 'a magician with a magic wand'"
mats_cd03: kakobrekla: links on log1.b-a direct to log.b-a, which is down
jurov: ppl will select themselves for this task
jurov: imo we can apply the same process as for patches. someone in da wot makes release, ppl sign
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: do you have the time and inclination to do this?
jurov: at least in case of statjson mpex accepts the same ecrypted blob twice. so the point is moot.
ben_vulpes: bluematt appears to have revoked his wot ket.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i do believe that someone in the wot must read patches, yes.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: one of us must do the deed ? ... i'd just rather stand on bluematt's shoulders << wasn't talking about the auto-builder. rather, the use of brain to evaluate patches.
jurov: clearsigned first. obv now is clear that one must not ever leak
ben_vulpes: and clearsigned too
jurov: i thought only encrypted stuff can be submitted to mpex?!
punkman: I wonder if there are any unencrypted commands in some pastebin somewhere
jurov: i explained it better under the trilema article where he announced it
punkman: you can encrypt commands to mpex key right?
jurov: but it goes against means of "offline" delivery where you aren't certain stuff went through
jurov: asciilifeform: mircea wanted to add them
asciilifeform for some reason thought there were serial numbers in mpex commands
jurov: but comments are tbd, thx for suggestion
jurov: --not-dash-escaped helps with the spaces
punkman: well that's nice
punkman: does that also work with GPG comments?
jurov: no need to clearsign again
jurov: but add aspace to clearsigned cmd, and it goes
jurov: i mena same clearsigned turd
jurov: normally it does not accept same command twice
jurov: right now im trying to diddle with mpex a bit
ben_vulpes: ah so this list is for comms as well.
jurov: i'm just exporing the possibilities
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: no reason whatsoever why anyone not in l2 should have write-access to list
ben_vulpes: jurov: why bother checking body? instead maybe just check .patch.sig for l2 sig, and compare that to the file.
asciilifeform: 'You should not send such an armored file via email because all spaces and line endings are hashed too.' -- man page
ben_vulpes: i am 12 and what is this: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/qa/rpc-tests/conflictedbalance.sh#L40
asciilifeform: bounce: he certainly devoted verbiage to 'nsa diddles rng, defend yerself'
bounce: probably a lot of "make it work" thoughts, not so much about "make it robust against adversaries"
asciilifeform: i cannot venture to guess about the author's thought process. perhaps there wasn't one.
asciilifeform: bounce: this is the exact reason i went with johnson noise rather than avalanche.
bounce: so you're stuck with a booster no matter what then.
bounce: sure. but the question remains, why have a booster at all? can't you run the thing off 5V directly?
asciilifeform: bounce: he boosts the 3v from the regulator. but doesn't matter.
kakobrekla: dont blame the arduino :)
bounce: that thing is usb, meaning it gets fed 5V. what then with the boosting from 3V?
punkman: pretty sure it's the first one
asciilifeform: onerng << there are two possible explanations for the above. one is that the author simply did not stop to think. and, well - the other explanation.
punkman: borked url there: curl -s http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/BXZKQx2iLYyRpUCmdWCqJBvgUdvqWH4EE8TV1ns3pxLZ | grep -oP "(?<=>).+(?=</text)" | base64 -d | sha256sum
asciilifeform: 3) the asinine RF noise sampler can be switched off. but does its tuning oscillator also switch off?
asciilifeform: 2) http://moonbaseotago.com/onerng/schematic.png << vendor schematic. see bottom-right-hand, 'AP3105' switching voltage-booster. it's there because 3v is not enough to run an avalanche diode. guess how the booster works? ☟︎
danielpbarron: the '2' and '5' are swapped (in their dice logo) // such random!
asciilifeform: 1) what kind of dope must one smoke to put a micro under the tin can with the analogue amp ?
asciilifeform: onerng.info << this gizmo is interesting to me because it uses exactly one sane design decision (rf shield); resembles mine from a distance. but inside - uses every single design mistake which i rejected. to avoid 'empty words,' i will name a few.
asciilifeform: undata: onerng.info << best lulz! this calls for a mini-review. ☟︎
jurov: that's prolly why dash escaped stuff is designed to survive the email
jurov: whoohoo: 'empty space' characters can be added to each line of cleartext, until the end of the line, without affecting the verification.
assbot: Logged on 26-10-2014 21:44:02; asciilifeform: till we have a gpg that clearsigns without escape char mutilation - we got this.
jurov: <punkman1> ;;later tell asciilifeform http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-10-2014#897500 < gpg has a –not-dash-escaped option << lol the fine manual also says "You should not send such an armored file via email because all spaces and line endings are hashed too."
assbot: "we show that if an adversary is able to review this cryptosystem, a simulator can be constructed which solves the halting problem"-ethereum
ben_vulpes: although i have a hard time imaginging which customers of a bezzletron service would touch btc. buying a loss for the taxbooks doesn't make much sense with the blackcash.
ben_vulpes: http://www.coindesk.com/mergertech-accepts-bitcoin-startup-sales-services/ << locals 'getting in' on the game
ben_vulpes: i doubt anyone cares for further derpage on the topic from me.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell adlai just trolling. although concurrency...python...2015...
ben_vulpes: i'd be thrilled to see what scripts etc he wrote and how he went about the en-test-harness-ifying of the thing
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: if bluematt (who was he?) doesn't appear - one of us must do the deed ? << i have jenkins running with the blob locally, i'd just rather stand on bluematt's shoulders
assbot: Logged on 26-10-2014 21:44:02; asciilifeform: till we have a gpg that clearsigns without escape char mutilation - we got this.
punkman1: ;;later tell asciilifeform http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-10-2014#897500 < gpg has a –not-dash-escaped option pretty much made for signing patches
punkman1: (whatever it finds in the deed pastebin, genesis deed had CRLF, others might not)
punkman1: ;;later tell nubbins` according to that, and to my system, mp's, etc, it's 1d834ceaf8b81bd9f53dec3f4befd06f65ee422248f2c2edaf55e825bd2228c0 << that's because the CRLF line endings in the raw deed got converted to LF at some point in your process
cazalla: BingoBoingo, danielpbarron, you can unfollow my ugandan alter-ego, i have my own twitter now, figured might help with qntra'ing
nubbins`: heading to work now, you may wanna check your code against these tools to verify everything
punkman1: yeah all the copy pasting, messes with line endings
punkman1: (unless that's what you did, then fuck me I gotta go check things)
punkman1: try decoding the base64 encoded deed and hashing that
punkman1: you are copying it wrong then
nubbins`: according to that, and to my system, mp's, etc, it's 1d834ceaf8b81bd9f53dec3f4befd06f65ee422248f2c2edaf55e825bd2228c0