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asciilifeform: the attacker needs the key to do anything useful << unless i misunderstand, enemy can do blind replay?
mircea_popescu: jurov yeah, stat/statjson are not protected against replay. this, on the principle that the response being encoded anyway, the attacker needs the key to do anything useful.
jurov: lol 11 exlamation points.. yknow, asciilifeform is still gathering blood, sweat, bile, etc. to put into cardano software
mircea_popescu: uh you telling me gpg takes "STATJSON" and "STATJSON " as validly signed by the same signature ?
jurov: read the gpg quirks i linked, it's eye opening
jurov: in the end of STATJSON
mircea_popescu: jurov: but add aspace to clearsigned cmd, and it goes << where are you adding the space ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: might have to give you one of mine.
mircea_popescu: if i have to pass another xmas w/o roast beast and cardano i'll paint you blue.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: against the f-students, we have pills. but it would be hasty to administer the pills as of yet.
punkman: jurov, to apply linked exploit
mircea_popescu: jurov he's trying to put a dent in his hosting bills ?
mircea_popescu: if the shitty unit makes it to market first then the well made unit is never happening.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i posted enough re: rng that any kid could bloody well copy it. but no, must have 'improvements.'
mircea_popescu: which is how you'll get kiled in the marketplace. if the market is 100 units, and 90 units are needed to support a well made unit, and 90 buyers could be satisfied by a shitty unit,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kitchen toilet.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: look at it. there it is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: 1) what kind of dope must one smoke to put a micro under the tin can with the analogue amp ? <<< ahahah wut.
punkman: question is can I redirect random HTTP url to ftp:// when I detect wget
rithm: justcoin failed to read the specs on ripple
mircea_popescu: assbot: "we show that if an adversary is able to review this cryptosystem, a simulator can be constructed which solves the halting problem"-ethereum << that made precisely no sense. wut ?!
mircea_popescu: what was that even ?
mircea_popescu: i wonder if this one was ever exploited.
undata: ha, love the social commentary sprinkled with courteous bdsm tips
TomServo: mircea_popescu: can't say I recall that exact scenario - but I see your point. Better not be another 950 years of this BS though!
mircea_popescu: and speaking of half the fun : was at japanese restaurant yest, discovered that the eating sticks, if unbroken, make the best nipple clamps ever. chicks love them, not strong enough to hurt, strong enough to majorly enhance sensitivity.
mircea_popescu: jurov you know, photos can be half the fun.
mircea_popescu: the us is going against a twin bottleneck, both social and technological. the us born boys of today are weak, the us tech of today is dull, no more edge. like that, it can only be a brothel.
mircea_popescu: but then 1000 years later they got their own armors and well... game over ?
mircea_popescu: TomServo you ever encountered that situation where you had a smaller island, but pushed tech, surrounded yourself with fortified mech infantry and railroaded all the firlds back when the idiots around still klonked each other with knights
jurov: did not take photos, sry
mircea_popescu: jurov anything good ? pics of hot twinks coming ?
mircea_popescu: no i only note things i like.
jurov: mircea_popescu: sigh... you may note my occassional rant related to it
TomServo: ahaha, yes. What's your take then, as far as timeline goes?
mircea_popescu: next he can make a review of datacenters based on total board / cpu surface o.O
TomServo: mircea_popescu: orlov piece being total idiocy << the most recent guest authored piece?
mircea_popescu: jurov you gotta make that mailman thing baby, otherwise " mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, others" will become a header here.
asciilifeform: ^ build, not live-fire tested yet
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what odds you giving on that ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm shooting the guy an email
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: read my turdreview
mircea_popescu: undata: ^ thoughts, criticism? << check it out, it's got the metal shield like asciilifeform's!
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski apparently the chaos people loved your blog.
mircea_popescu: next thing you know you gotta wear gloves because the socialist idots have made an endless supply of doorknob droolers.
Naphex: mircea_popescu: aye. oh well i just firewall drop them after 10 accunetix hits
mircea_popescu: so they keep suckling on doorknobs, shit like that.
mircea_popescu: there's about a quarter billion idiots kept alive against nature by various welfarist governments' welfare programs, who exist like shitworms, everything is either a food dispenser or nothing to them.
mircea_popescu: kinda a good reason to not explicitly / publicisedly offer rewards.
Naphex: mircea_popescu: aye, or just lots of monkeys running around shooting accunetix trying to get bug rewards lol
mircea_popescu: Naphex: i'm gonna start banning accunetix scans soon. its incredible how many "security researches" and hax0rs just try and run it all day << like five hundred times in a row, too. because who knows, maybe it changed ?
mircea_popescu signs off on that orlov piece being total idiocy.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sapper trains with...
ben_vulpes: reference client was a total fat-finger on my part
punkman is willing to work on specification at some point
mircea_popescu: i shall say mebbe again to you, if you do not appease me!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the sense that zapping dead ifdef's is not especially arduous.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu << would like to be optimistic, but we will soon see who remains motivated once the turdlathe demands actual brain cycles. right now it's target practice against paper 'opponents.'
bounce: what's this now?
mircea_popescu: that's the problem here, you need some experience to be able to think.
mircea_popescu: bounce i had nfi idea, at the time, and definitely would have been horrible for the role.
bounce: you shoulda been there and called up the heaven+hell agency and order the right actors for this show, eh
punkman: maybe it was 3 wizards and a code monkey, who's to know?
mircea_popescu: two legions of choir angels and a third column of succubi might have sufficed, then.
mircea_popescu: i think it's deeper than that. i doubt the job was possible at all, without an outright onslaught from metaphysics.
bounce: apparently there wasn't a people person around who could find and organise the people to cook up bitcoin; needed a lone engineer to lay the ground work.
mircea_popescu: anyway, a better demolition of the myth of "open source" and wikidiotarianism could also hardly be devised
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu << i must point out that the turd's merely been chucked onto the turdlathe. no one as of yet solved anything.
mircea_popescu: five fucking years and a horde of jackals, all because there isn't nor apparently can there be a god out there to whom you pray and who gives orders adequately.
mircea_popescu: a better example of the problem of resource allocation can never be devised.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin finally reached in 2014 the place where it would have been in 2009 had satoshi been able to find and motivate people rather than find himself desperately shooting into the public forum.
punkman: oh thought you were signing rm utility, never mind
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, that - yes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no reason to hurry.
mircea_popescu: shit listen, i'm not yet done with the day's log, gotta read it in order or else errors.
mircea_popescu: didja write teh minireview ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, others involved with deturdification - unless you prefer emacs for this, see tools like 'xxdiff' for illuminated patches.
assbot: Logged on 28-10-2014 12:47:11; asciilifeform: undata: onerng.info << best lulz! this calls for a mini-review.
asciilifeform: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-10-2014#900085 << for those who slept
asciilifeform: gotta love the cribbing f-students - 'onerng' etc.
mircea_popescu: partlist, quality of results summary, all sorts of things.
asciilifeform: punkman: it'd be all-throughhole now if the components were actually available in that package.
undata: asciilifeform: great! we await your teachings.
punkman: asciilifeform: maybe someone will come up with through-hole component version?
asciilifeform: i expect that the truly serious folks won't even touch my hardware, but recreate it from spec...
mircea_popescu: shit i gotta type faster.
mircea_popescu: undata plus he's on the hook to document it once it actually gets made.
asciilifeform: undata: in case this was not clear, complete design documents -and- rationales will be published (including in dead-tree form).
asciilifeform: undata: the only formally published aspect so far is a set of high-res photos. but it, plus everything i have said about rng, is ten times more than enough to recreate it for a determined and impatient student.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'll do something-or-other for your foundation thing, so long as it doesn't involve actual work
mircea_popescu is curious to hear details.
punkman: 1 day and 18 hours for the first run
punkman: so both electrum and supybot crapped out in slightly weird way today, I'll try to get it back up by tomorrow
mircea_popescu: and how do you deal with the case where string1+siga+string2+sigb ?
mod6: <+punkman> ok, so last guy to sign must be in assbot wot << just put this in the wiki then so we'll know
punkman: maybe I'll make it display the additional signatures somehow
punkman: ok, so last guy to sign must be in assbot wot
mod6: ok gotta run for a bit, will be back later to continue the work on getting this thing finished.
mircea_popescu: punkman that sounds fine actually.
punkman: ok, so I think current deedbot implementation would only look at the last signature in multisig message. How should it work ideally?