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assbot: SJW ? You mean SEW ? pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
thickasthieves: his deal was, i'll make you a logo, and you'll
take it as is
thickasthieves: it's nearly impossible
to get a client
to accept stuff like
this
thi
punkman: just when I was
thinking hey
this is pretty good
assbot: MIT Media Lab Gets a
Transforming Logo, Courtesy of Pentagram | WIRED
TomServo: "Russia favors a conservative approach
to introducing innovations into
the social order, but is not opposed
to investigating and discussing such innovations,
to see if introducing any of
them might be justified." << seems like an odd point
to wedge in amongst
the rest.
ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: where's
that pankkake comment from?
ben_vulpes: i ultimately went
the route of shelling out
to gpg directly and writing my own little lib
that did exactly what i needed and nothing else
ben_vulpes: punkman: i've run afoul of
the python gnupg wrapper
assbot: Cybernetic arm goes crazy on canadian
TV show - Imgur
RagnarDanneskjol: thickasthieves -
thats what coinsetter did
their first couple of years for
that reason
jurov: iirc it's already established MPEx server everyone, what are
they gonna do about it?
punkman: thickasthieves: wasn't kraken doing
that for a while?
jurov: and if it does not register,
then what?
thickasthieves: can a US exchange run unregulated by
the US if it only serves non-US customers?
thickasthieves: " Whether one is a US-based exchange or not doesn't decide whether one needs
to register.
The question is whether a company has clients in
the US or not. If so,
they are subject
to regulations of
that jurisdiction."
jurov: obv,
that means caching delays
jurov: <asciilifeform> [20141030 00:13]
that
thing's running on what, a commodore64? << seeing kako's problems, I put a CDN in outright in front of it
assbot: Enough of What “Most People
Think,”
Tell Me What You
Think or STFU | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
thickasthieves: pankkake says hello: "That’s not an “update”, please avoid associating your nonsense with my script. Your “solution” provides no easy maintenance and comes with greater hardware requirements (as with anything pre-0.8), but I suppose you guys are pretty much clueless on
this. Also conveniently forgetting
that 0.9 introduced
the possibility of disabling
the wallet functionality
bounce doesn't smoke but isn't getting paid for
the not-smoking either
nubbins`: it's like having a part-time job where you get paid
to not show up
nubbins`: i
thought about growing
tobacco
kakobrekla: i dont know anyone younger
than 40
there
punkman: kakobrekla:
teach
them how
to bitcoin plz
kakobrekla: properly curated costs even less
than 20eur/kg in bosnia
punkman: if only he knew how
to cure it properly
punkman: so pack of
tobacco from corner store, 4-5eur from 17gr, bag of
tobacco from guy I know, 20eur for 1kg.
punkman: jurov: yeah and
there's a dozen other similar libraries
too
jurov: i discovered
that while doing mepxagent.
jurov: punkman, are you aware
there are gnupg and python-gnupg as not fully compatible forks of each other?
punkman is gonna need some
tobacco, runs out
punkman: yeah I love
that I'm running "develop" versions for all major pieces (supybot, electrum)
nubbins`: ^ was just gonna paste
that :D
nubbins`: yeah, paste yr code, let's
take a peek
nubbins`: oh and what OS is
this running on?
nubbins`: oh hey, nanotube contributed
to
that particular method
punkman: python-gnupg, I couldn't get recv_keys
to work,
tried fork of library, I can recv_keys but it burps on some unicode chars returned by keyserver and doesn't confirm key was imported.
punkman: maybe
today, gotta remove
the stupid
nubbins`: speaking of
testing, any sign of punkbot 8)
punkman: I've always
thought
the drainholes under keyboard in Lenovo machines were a great idea, haven't had a chance
to
test it
though
adlai: exchanges are enabling
that and
the SEC is
two decades late
to
the party
thickasthieves: So if
the SEC is enabling some
traders
to get early info, will
the SEC fine
the SEC?
adlai: thus
the modern stock market enables us
to calculate
the free-market price of a fuck, commonly only approximated
through dark pools in back alleys
assbot: Tim Cook: "I'm Proud
to be Gay" - Businessweek
bounce logged in with $site, nuked cookies somewhere along
the way, now can't log in because "csrf
token invalid,
try again", no matter what
trick I
throw at it. support is in a forum
that requires logging in
through
the same form of course.
thickasthieves: <+cazalla> i bet
this multisig shit
turns into a customer service nightmare for coinbase ---- and
they explicitly only do online customer service, no phone
assbot: Putin says Washington fails
to respect
the interests of other countries | Fox News
bounce: <RagnarDanneskjol> essentially unrelated
to aml I believe. << no, it is not. you don't get
to exclude actions
taken by non-government actors because of
the rules because
they're not government actors.
adlai: looks like without
this,
the SEC wasn't
taking into account unexecuted offers, which is kinda laughable if
they're
trying
to detect/prevent "manipulation"
adlai: "The system, akin
to an X-ray machine for
the stock market" Here we see
the useless metaphor in its natural habitat, a NYtimes article
adlai: > SEC using new market analysis
tool... codenamed 'midas'
RagnarDanneskjol: essentially unrelated
to aml I believe. account closure without legal action is just business discretion/risk mgmt. Of course regs preempt cautionary' corporate policies if
thats what you mean. back
to
the original question, its all positive for regulators/prosecutors, all negative for account holders. virus is possibly a good analogy- its all warm, positive, and welcoming for
the vi
bounce: that's much
too narrow. people getting
their accounts shut down because
too much bother is also an effect of
these same regulations.
RagnarDanneskjol: the definition for ML is fairly straight forward - like an arrow, it either hits a
target or doesnt depending on archer's accuracy. what you're
talking about
there is
the proficiency of individual arbiters weighing decisions
to execute warrants.. I'd guess
their accuracy varies rather widely
bounce: that at least gives you an idea of its visible effects, which isn't
the whole picture but at least is a start
bounce: if
there's no sure-fire way
then perhaps
the whole idea of combating needs
to be scrapped. if
that isn't
the case, you can look at what effects
the regs have and
tally incidents
they have an influence on, discerning "this was money laundering" and "this wasn't",
tally separately
bounce: "combat money laundering" -- what is money laundering and (leaving aside for
the moment why it would need combating) how exactly do you discern when something is money laundering or not.
bounce: then look at what
they're supposed
to do, like look at
the language used
to introduce
the regs.
RagnarDanneskjol: hmm, I actually couldn't comprehend how
to gauge
the proficiency of kyc/aml, so was
trying
to help you clarify for me
RagnarDanneskjol: the 'stated purpose could only be
trolling for unauthorized activity. it would be
the same as efficiency/efficancy of any other surveillance - its much better
than nothing but not as good as
they'd like.
there would simply be all negatives for one party, all positives for
the other
bounce: those civil forfeitures for people "structuring"
their deposits so
their bank has less paperwork
to do is clearly an effect but not, as far as I know anyway, a publicly stated purpose of
the reporting rules
bounce: then you
tally
the side effecets and perhaps you can make a nice little
table with false and
true positives and negatives perhaps
undata: I'm sure
they're highly effective at creating a
target for identity
theft.
bounce: so, is
there any data anywhere of
the efficacy and efficiency of KYC and AML reg implementations?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I'm having
trouble finding an MPOE-PR post using something Buffet wrote in relation
to mining. How capital expenditure is made in
textiles etc.
BingoBoingo: It's been a few days since my fan made
the angry bees noise.
BingoBoingo: Why would I spill
the precious? Also not much of a beer person. Prefer my drink closer in composition
to what would be used
to clean it anyways
undata: cigs are
the natural enemy of computer fans
BingoBoingo: I
take
this one out
to
the garage
to smoke cigarettes
undata: but I was able
to clean it
undata: BingoBoingo: I almost wrecked
this one's fan coding in
the sand by
the columbia
BingoBoingo: undata: I had
to get
the screen replaced on
this one under warranty << My 4 yo
Thinkpad will probably be getting its
third fan soon.
undata: I had
to get
the screen replaced on
this one under warranty
undata: IBM still does
the US "support"