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adlai: should've chatted over a beer rather
than hurriedly yapping on
the road
mircea_popescu: the
turtle from osaka, back
towards its pond, in osaka
mircea_popescu: then, after a moment of reflection,
they said
their goodbies and parted ways
mircea_popescu: oh,
terrible brother, just
terrible. how about kyoto ?
mircea_popescu: they saluted each other, and soon realised each comes from
the other's destination. so
they naturally inquired
mircea_popescu: after putting step after step for long enough
they met at
the midpoint of
the road between kyoto and osaka.
mircea_popescu: eventually
the
turtle from osaka had enough of
this indignity, and securely
tying a salad leaf
to its carapace, proceeded on
the road
to kyoto.
mircea_popescu: eventually
the
turtle from kyoto had enough of
this indignity, and securely
tying a salad leaf
to its carapace, proceeded on
the road
to osaka.
mircea_popescu: an old
turtle had lived for many years in a pond in osaka. in
the later days a new concubine introduced a habit of launching ever more bright felinars at night, which bothered its sleep.
mircea_popescu: but bothered
the
turtle, because it could no longer see
the light of
the soon or
the moon, or
the stars.
mircea_popescu: an old
turtle had lived for many years in a pond in kyoto. in
the later days a new concubine introduced a habit of
throwing strands of silk over
the pond, which became fashionable,
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : anyone want
to hear retold
the ancient japanese story of
the
turtle from kyoto and
the
turtle from osaka ?
undata: mircea_popescu: having gained means I will likely do many
things I've never done
undata: I just want
to write code and grow food
mircea_popescu: <undata> it is likely having grown up here
that gives me deep skepticism
that
things are ever "better" <<
the canonical form of
this is, "it is unlikely for
the
tadpole
that ever lived in
the same one puddle
to imagine what different puddle means"
undata: regardless I'm not
the guy
undata: maybe
that points
to cultivating better fetishes? hah
undata: glorious leader given
the power
to reshape society
tends
to
turn it into a masturbation implement
undata: rather
than just in a different shape
undata: it is likely having grown up here
that gives me deep skepticism
that
things are ever "better"
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2014 00:31:00; asciilifeform: 2 yrs. ago i figured out how
to flex a fairly ordinary multi-conductor cable in an arbitrary spot, at an arbitrary angle, purely electrically.
undata: there needs
to be at
that
time someone with
the sense
to lead and
the means
to offer something in exchange
undata: asciilifeform: seems like
the opportunity
to get it "done" only arises from
time
to
time
undata: asciilifeform: "knew" without a viable process
to get
to whats "known" is not "known"
undata: mircea_popescu: "someday
the right master will pour
the right answers into my head.
then I'll be great, you'll see"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> what does it actually
take, in
terms of resources,
to keep a mathematician going? << food.
mircea_popescu: <undata> americans can't communicate with each other well enough
to solve any problems. <<
this is
true actually. seriously, "dating guides" ?
undata: asciilifeform: how about owning
the means
to produce one's own food
undata: americans can't communicate with each other well enough
to solve any problems.
chetty: well it is sad, I don't have an answer, just recognize
the problem, ...what will
turn
the herd?
undata: 100k can march in
the street here and
the rest do not
take note
chetty: sadly as long as people keep looking for a 'ticket'
this will continue
mircea_popescu: the word sinecure originates from
this
time, specifically
the actual peasant sucking
the cock's despising of
the uncocksucky position of kepler.
mircea_popescu: just, as people stopped
trying alchemy
they rejected it, it's all
therein contained.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't
take some sort of official pronouncement, like
the "chemistry foundation" of 1700 signed a statement
that
they "now hereby reject
the heresy of alchemy"
mircea_popescu: the moment
they stopped
trying
to make gold,
they rejected
the search for gold.
mircea_popescu: jurov yes. in hindsight. by people rejecting wholesale a 1000 years' pile of
tradition.
jurov: wtf is
this nonsense. "chemist" label was applied only in hidsight
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well no banker wakes up and
thinks "today i will lose some money"
mircea_popescu: adlai
the point is
that nothing forces you
to speak on
topics on which you have nothing
to say
assbot: What Your Birthday Says About Your Mood And Personality, According
To Science
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform self-styled "regulators" love
to whine pathetic about
the "irresponsible risk seeking behaviours" of banks or whoever, conveniently omitting
to mention
that it's
the disease of
the system, it's what socialism necessarily breeds (through blindness), and
that
they
themselves
took some insane gambles. such as
the 50 year "let's finance pseudoscience, who knows,\ maybe it pays off"
adlai: mircea_popescu: wovon << alongside silence, i'd say questions are also a valid response
to ignorance
chetty: but asciilifeform latest stuff is
trying
to put
them back
together
assbot: The problem of claims pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
chetty: actually some
that current stuff
that calls itself science wouldn't be so bad, it just needs
to stop pretending it is science
mircea_popescu: not so unlike
the purely usian folly of
taking life advice from movie stars, "since we like
this we might also pretend
this is good, or right, or whatever"
adlai: i'm not even sure how you'd go about doing such research in a real scientific manner... lots of noise in
the signals
mircea_popescu: the entire field is essentially predicating
that marx,cCarnagey, ziggler,
the incredible hulk et al are actually scientists, or
to be
taken seriously.
adlai: mircea_popescu:
the
topics which are studied by
the pseudosciences which you dismiss
adlai: asciilifeform: who were
the sinecures?
adlai: mircea_popescu: have you seen any serious science done on
these
topics?
bounce: my isn't
this an interesting irc conversation
assbot: How
to deal with pseudoscience ? pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: Loper OS »
The Simplest Lisp Machine
jurov: <kakobrekla> what , computhas dont leak energy?
thats new.<< no i meant we want
to devise machines
that simulate non-leaking evironment
assbot: How
to deal with pseudoscience ? pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (not
the literal qwerty, but
the 'platonic' qwerty seen as
the overall human failing where folks agree on buggy shit and
then cement it in place
through 'sunk cost') << fwiw i disagree with
this assesment. english is broken because it's a commercial pigdin, language without a country.
the old languages of yurp are actually fine, and
to
this day more powerful
than any synthetic syntax.
adlai: by
the people, of
the people, for
the people, from
the people, against
the people...
chetty: <adlai>
the public, from itself!//<<< opt out
chetty: <adlai> mircea_popescu: requirements like regulation must adapt
to best protect
the public's interests// whats 'the public'? Who would you protect? and from what?
adlai: mircea_popescu: requirements like regulation must adapt
to best protect
the public's interests
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: why are we speaking a broken language? what forces have caused
this?