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asciilifeform: johntraveller: and own logic cell library, own synthesis toolchain.
johntraveller: asciilifeform: maybe some chinese kid will try and build his own lisp machine. sadly they’re not there yet
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think about it, a cop-filming, revenge-porn-making, electrictity stealing personal dronepet!
asciilifeform: easy to charge from.
johntraveller: bounce: dunno about cost. I don’t think he went especially ‘custom’, though lots of chinese firms have been making custom handsets with custom android mods.
bounce: those things aren't loss-free
mircea_popescu: bounce spite is the only real engine of human progress.
mircea_popescu: THIS will be the next step in b-a terrorism.
mircea_popescu: shit that's a great idea.
asciilifeform: bringing the inevitable chaos
asciilifeform: at some point, some joker somewhere will build the one that latches onto and inductively charges from aerial mains cables
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform better yet, thing should know where the batteries are kept, fly over, change ITSELF. let the spare charge.
asciilifeform: can mitigate, to some extent, with a return-to-base and cell swap gambit
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> + much better homemade porn << noisy as shit though
mircea_popescu: bounce but one specifically optimised for the role of following you around taking pictures of things. like a sort of gopro with ai.
asciilifeform: the typical flight time of the various extant machines is about half hour.
asciilifeform: chetty: rather than serious enemy
mircea_popescu: how much would this cost to make ?
asciilifeform: chetty: afaik the 'fingerprint' pnohes are intended to keep the common pickpocket out of your cached logins, until you can send remote-zap command
mircea_popescu: you know, ever since the photo debate with bounce a few days ago, i'm kinda curious to see this photography drone gadget. imagine all the YOLO picutres taken by this orbiting drone thing.
asciilifeform: 'own tablet' - means what? own chipset, nothing from 'arm' ? own os, from zero?
chetty: dont use fingerprint, usg says you have no privacy rights with those
johntraveller: bounce: a dutch entrepreneur in the city I’m moving to had his own tablet built a few years back
asciilifeform: but original thread was about the perils of pNohes
mircea_popescu: you really should own the box.
asciilifeform: he can also 'be you' to any moron who isn't asking for pgp sig, and impersonate, and summon gasenwagen, etc.
asciilifeform: not necessarily fatal, but quite unpleasant if that was your sole means of contact with somebody.
asciilifeform: even in the most elementary case, using none of these, pwner can lock you out of own mailbox
mircea_popescu: ah, the blessings of not actually using any of those.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: esp. given all the idiot www gadgets that don't use pgp, and allow mail-based pw resets
mircea_popescu: johntraveller to voice yourself, pm assbot !up
bounce: freedesktop.org needs to die, more or less
mircea_popescu: "There is no motherfucking reason conceivable or inconceivable that x.org should depend on netbase." i say!
assbot: Ubuntu is a worse piece of shit than MS-DOS ever was. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: much easier to do, still undone.
mircea_popescu: bounce i'd be happy with os stacks that didn't make world depend on internet etc.
gribble: (rated <nick>) -- Get the details about the rating you gave to <nick>, if any.
bounce: and do a network side that isn't as full of holes as the current crop, and do proper separation, and provide a full off of the wireless side while leaving the other functions available, and so on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if mail is used correctly (send/received armored gpg blobs) this yields no further information than already available.
bounce: you could make a phone that gives you as much insight and control as available; this is quite a bit more than currently available.
chetty: true, but we do what little we can ...(mostly I use the off button atm)
bounce: yes, and to fix that you'd really need to redesign the protocol
asciilifeform: chetty: the only exception, really, is the 'pwned phone listens at all times' and 'pwned phone dumps www/mail logins to pwner'
asciilifeform: chetty: much of what folks object to re: phones happens on the tower end.
bounce: have shop run up a sample or two and I'd be happy really
mircea_popescu: bounce aren't phones one of those things you gotta make 1mn units min ?
bounce: more like, have a couple drafts laying around, should probably try and merge them
assbot: Gas now cheaper than milk - New York News
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: hmm, maybe I should organise a couple local guys to do research and I write it up in english?
bounce has a phone spec in mind that could stand building
mircea_popescu: johntraveller fluent foreigner is usually a better model than local esl, but maybe worth a shot.
johntraveller: sadly not that exciting. mostly stuff around mobile marketing. my friend is the kind of guy involved in multiple pies though
jurov: johntraveller: the qntra writers are rewarded by shares
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: so I’m moving back to china in a couple of weeks. (working with my russian friend on a bunch of mobile-related projects). depending on how much money there is in it, my 1st thought is find a local finance student who could research/write part-time?
mircea_popescu: also i wish it entered into the record that romania was at no point during its ~2500ish year history sane. not ever.
jurov: today is the ipo, tomorrow is GLORY
BingoBoingo: Definitely a glory hole in qntra's coverage there
mircea_popescu: johntraveller one major thing is that qntra doesn't/can't quite follow chinese language news atm. if you can bridge that gap there's glory in there.
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: not looking for work but definitely open to btc-related projects
johntraveller: kinda though I’m a bit rusty
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: spent a couple of years in china and a year in HK, visited malaysia, india, tibet, phillipines, algeria and a bunch of european coutnries
asciilifeform: johntraveller: outside of the anglo world, there is (or at least, until recently, was) a bacchanalia of xenophiliac idiocy ('let's copy usa! they have cadillacs and we have trabant, they must be clever')
mircea_popescu: on the plus side, it's very easy to see the craziness of romanian o wait. nope. listen, somehow english speakers had a lot of trouble figuring out exactly how and exactly where ro nonsense was broken, back in the 90s.
johntraveller: asciilifeform: oh yeah, you’re right. my theory was that people like MP or taleb, who grew up in somewhat sane cultures, instinctively see the craziness of anglo-american ideas. if you grew up in the english speaking world it’s harder to see that
asciilifeform: johntraveller: afaik his stepfather, usg diplomat, dragged him to several places around the empire
mircea_popescu: guy had a pretty gf and a two year old kid. too old, iho.
johntraveller: asciilifeform: yeah. I also get the sense he hasn’t travelled much. living abroad makes it much easy to see your own cultural matrix, so to speak
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have this earlier convo burnished in my memory, me: "you know, it's quite possible you'll die there" op: "eh, fuckit. i'm too old anyway." me: "you're twenty four!"
asciilifeform: i think mircea_popescu already did this essay
mircea_popescu avoids starting a rant on the topic as he's ranted recently and is well rantsated :D
asciilifeform: other thing is, when reading his 'i'm a surrender monkey, usg cannot be killed' posts, must remember that he's a 'tenured sea cucumber' in the sense that he keeps a dependopotamus, it birthed children, and he knows he won't be making it out of the gravity pit.
asciilifeform: i'm still waiting to hear about someone other than mr mold, who did this
asciilifeform: i could've easily went there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik he did not copy, initially, but marched on with his pre-2009 turdcoin
mircea_popescu: i suppose you put this under "no greek"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform strange that he tried to copy bitcoin but didn't manage to think of the assbot voice.
johntraveller: asciilifeform: yup, I’d agree with that. he himself said he had enough friends, he wanted better critics
asciilifeform: johntraveller: as i gather, he saw the quality of the 'followers' and went full perelman.
asciilifeform: johntraveller: the worst thing, arguably, that ever happened to mr mold, is the 'moldosphere'
mircea_popescu: we don't have a plan either. who the fuck needs plans when you got wmd.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform everyone eats what they can. it's just that for a few that doesn't come out of a can.
johntraveller: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah, I followed a bunch of the NRx guys for a long time as I hadn’t encountered anyone else saying the same things. but I got bored after a while, they clearly don’t have any plans or goals
asciilifeform: junkyard dog is doomed to eat what he can.
johntraveller: I emailed the guy but he seemed massively tinfoil
asciilifeform: mr mold is a junkyard dog, with all that it entails. did not grow up with classical education, no latin, no greek. me neither.
cazalla: kakobrekla: >2000 coinbase.com accounts in less than 2 weeks for a total of almost 17 BTC. <<< a lot of the accounts were empty from the sample bitcomsec provide
mircea_popescu: johntraveller chan's kinda on the fence re moldbug. you can search for him to get the various discussions if you care.
bounce: alright, n'mind me then
asciilifeform: bounce: tried it and 1000 things
mircea_popescu: johntraveller which brings us to the next question. how do you distinguish this from the usual usg psyops ? astroturfing/trolling for pseudo-communities ?
bounce: googling gives a couple of instant brainrot inducing "solutions". man, freedesktop is bad for the brain and no mistake.
johntraveller: xenosystems, twitter and 8chan.co/duck are the main gathering places
mircea_popescu: jurov better a software tumor of the mailman than a malignant tumor of the sexware!
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: prior to 2012, yes. but since about a year or two ago people have started to cluster around the ‘neoreactionary’ label. that image is the meta-community growing self-aware
bounce: as a totally wild guess, could try and stop nvidia from modesetting so the intel thing gets to do it
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: yes. but there’s a fringe of right-wing people (who have been slowly leaving)
mircea_popescu: johntraveller isn't the lesswrong crowd flamingly libtard ?
asciilifeform: although arguably a box with the blog driver may as well be a winblows box
johntraveller: mircea_popescu: interesting. I would say the most active pre-existing groups (in order of size) were the manosphere guys, the HBD/white nationalist bloggers, the ‘orthosphere’ (a bunch of catholic bloggers), the lesswrong crowd
mircea_popescu: remmeber, this is ubuntu, ie a linux implementation of windows