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asciilifeform: ^ not turd. why? didn't have to run on toy computer in paupers' bedrooms.
asciilifeform: since we're on the subject of www,
decimation: as I recall the netscape was pretty much just a ripoff of mosaic
asciilifeform: 'yahoo' << 'houyhnhnm' just doesn't have the same ring.
mircea_popescu: someone actually thought that "yahoo" is a sane string to associate to your busines.
decimation: the only reason google 'took off' was the fact that their competitors sucked
mircea_popescu: decimation just think, what they were. remember... lycos ?
asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin interests me as an obvious example of a technological jewel tossed around aimlessly by the brutal hands of cave men. I can’t help but picture a flashlight or a radio set, left behind in the wilderness by geologists, to be picked up later by some Stone Age aboriginals; to be fought over and worshiped. Until the batteries run out.' -- your truly
decimation: yeah that's a scary parallel
mircea_popescu: in fact, the history of the internet and the browser narrowly mimicks the history of bitcoin
asciilifeform: masters of turdatronics, went on to Great Things
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder the internet even stil exists.
asciilifeform: pioneered the modern shitpile, yes
decimation: I remember the original netscape - it was a pile of shit
decimation: right, the point to realize is that the market is broken
decimation: writing nearly perfect code is possible, but anyone who tries loses in the market by those who 'get there first' writing crap
mircea_popescu: "and the loss to the software company that has to give up two months of sales is even worse." << dat logic. so if i have sex for the first time today, rather than next week, i gain a full week of first time sexings.
decimation: it allows everyone to pass the buck up to the assignat printing press
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform listen : if coders didn't have to worry about whether THEIR PROGRAM EVEN HALTS
mircea_popescu: In fact there are lots of great reasons for bloatware. For one, if programmers don't have to worry about how large their code is, they can ship it sooner. And that means you get more features, and features make your life better (when you use them) and don't usually hurt (when you don't).
asciilifeform: this actually plays out, as written, in an episode of disney's 'duck tales' i saw translated as a boy
mircea_popescu: sort-of equivalent to the moment when archimedes turned on the mirrors.
mircea_popescu: decimation that would have been the fucking moment of truth for the cataphract : when someone turned on a giant magnet
asciilifeform: tiresome wankers linked it in my comments maybe 15 times
assbot: Strategy Letter IV: Bloatware and the 80/20 Myth - Joel on Software
mircea_popescu: http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000020.html quoted just to make stan bleed from the eyes.
asciilifeform: time to think^H blink << 'The lights must never go out, The music must always play..., Lest we should see where we are, Lost in a haunted wood, Children afraid of the night, Who have never been happy or good.'
BingoBoingo: <decimation> yeah I would be pretty scared to operate on someone with a glass blade << In an MRI tube what else can you use? Interventional radiology is lucrative
BingoBoingo: Compare to a modern blade made with powder sintered S30V steel http://www.cutleryshoppe.com/gerberapplegate-fairbairncovertautomatic-cpm-530v-378blackcomboedgeblade.aspx
mircea_popescu: it has time to think^H blink, damnit.
mircea_popescu: "Recently, I devoted several sleepless nights to this problem. Why is it that our computers are getting faster and faster yet we are using them more and more to render things generated on some distant server? And it’s still slow!" <<< average bovine is comforted by the second delay.
decimation: yeah I would be pretty scared to operate on someone with a glass blade
asciilifeform: (brittle as all fuck, cannot tolerate lateral force much at all)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: glass scalpel << of late i have made much use of carbide cutting tools on lathe, which come with similar warnings.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> more or less no one uses pure Al for anything today. << /me may use for heat...
BingoBoingo: decimation> re: obsidian knives << if you want to go this route, just find some local flint and start chipping << Flint =/= obsidian
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that particular piece was written while waiting for a locked-up msword turd on a usg slavemachine, also running mandatory usg antivirus, which wedged the disk
decimation: I distinctly remember seeing word on windows and thinking it was a huge step back from wordperfect on dos
assbot: Obsidian Scalpels - Micro Knives - Scalpels & Blades - Product Overview - Fine Science Tools
BingoBoingo: http://www.finescience.com/Special-Pages/Products.aspx?ProductId=296&CategoryId=56&lang=en-US << Obsidian terrorist knife
mircea_popescu: word-something. like coin-* today
mircea_popescu: i think i had wordperfect on msdos
mircea_popescu: part of the reason perhaps being that if i had, i'd start bludgeoning the machine into the ground.
decimation: re: obsidian knives << if you want to go this route, just find some local flint and start chipping
mircea_popescu: "it is not rare to see a palpable (and all the more so for its unpredictability) delay between pressing a key and the drawing of a symbol on the screen." << i have never seen this.
decimation: I believe that aluminum is part of the british crown jewels too
asciilifeform: more or less no one uses pure Al for anything today.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo actually, they didn't come up with duralumin
asciilifeform: for folks outside of usa, good story re: Al: in washington d.c., there is an enormous obelisk, 'washington monument.' it is tipped with a small pyramid of precious aluminum.
BingoBoingo: Still, how many obsiadian terroist knives, at what dimension, and in what quantity?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the ancients would've laughed at Al. BUt in the 18th and 19th centuries only nobels had aluminium helmets
asciilifeform: pretty damn useless metal, unless you can churn it out by the megatonne
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform still waiting for obsidian terroristknives << DO you have a budget in mind?
BingoBoingo: obsidian conparatively common though. Aluminum might as well have been mythiril though
asciilifeform still waiting for obsidian terroristknives
mircea_popescu: which is why vulcan lives underground not in the sky
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually the mediteranean people volcanoes prolly more than meteorites.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not much of these in actual archaeological practice, iirc
BingoBoingo: but the later easier to refine and heavier.
mircea_popescu: not saying they didn't get very good at it, they did.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (Al being a creature of modernity.) << Elemental Al was accessible to ancients... at lightining strike sites
mircea_popescu: and they got it from... guess ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tatara comes from... guess ?
asciilifeform: it was more or less guaranteed to rupture at one point, killing crew
assbot: Video: Secrets of the Samurai Sword | Watch NOVA Online | PBS Video
asciilifeform: cannon aficionados should also think about chinese & korean leather cannon.
mircea_popescu: tin, tin.
asciilifeform: and gypsies worked in tin, lead, no possible zamac
mircea_popescu: come to think about it : the original siege cannon was carried by two dozen oxen, fired twice a day, had to be cooled with hlf a ton of oil and exploded every two weeks killing everyone around
asciilifeform: 'hedgehog marches in fog, with rifle on his shoulder.' 'not funny, but at least it's about the war!'
mircea_popescu: the most recent pulse went in all directions, just about to india.
mircea_popescu: decimation the golden crescent is this pulsing heart of human civilisaiton.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course, but also the product normally refered to now as "Damascus" steel
decimation: the turks conquered Byzantium and then headed east?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that's post-byzantine conquest. strictly.
asciilifeform: gotta fix those pots & pans.
mircea_popescu: so much so they got dragged all over to europe by various turkic people.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairnes, the gypsies did show real talent in working with zamak,
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> primitives succeeded in making steels of a kind, from naturally carboniferous wootz traded along, e.g., silk road << Wootz yes, low hanging fruit. When I read Damascus though I think laminate forging process
decimation: yeah I saw some documentary about japanese sword-making - that steel is closer to steel, but nowhere near modern quality
asciilifeform: primitives succeeded in making steels of a kind, from naturally carboniferous wootz traded along, e.g., silk road
mircea_popescu: anyway, tardpedia's fascination with the east and white-hating notwithstanding, steel is a western invention.
mircea_popescu: swords are like computers - they only work for some grades of si
decimation: yeah I think it was more "steel" than steel
mircea_popescu: dunno what sort of steel they were shipping in 3ad.
assbot: Damascus steel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel << " From the 3rd century to the 17th century, India was shipping steel ingots to the Middle East.[14]"
mircea_popescu: at the joseph smith stage yet.
mircea_popescu: "the iron! my god, the iron!" spoken in italia by the degenerate successors of the latins.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the franks.
assbot: No Such lAbs (S.NSA), October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
decimation: re: design space << so part of the problem with "C" is that it tends to occupy this mental design space rapidly
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe the Assyrians? Some sort of Turk turnt out the Jew bronze with their Iron.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Shhhhh, you are about to spoil the part where the hittites surprise pete_d with iron weapns << the hittites never had iron. you're thinking the franks.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the kid who gets his first fuck - also disappointed << rly ?!
asciilifeform: ars longa, when you catch, kill, and dress the unicorn, can go after loch ness monster and many other prey.
BingoBoingo: The problem is encountering the actual mythical good is always a dissapointment.
BingoBoingo: ANd thus began the legend of niggers.txt
asciilifeform: why go through the grind of developing world from scratch, they thought, when you can l33ch l33t w4r3z like a pr0 in 21 days
asciilifeform: then they decided they like w4r3z rather too much