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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes mod6 you're supposed to sign his thing too
jurov: no, the treasurer's contract so that there are no ugly 404s from the bottom links
ben_vulpes: mod6: treasurer contract?
mircea_popescu: i've been trying to get them servers for a coupla years now.
jurov: oh and please kindly send me or to deedbot your signed contracts
mod6: thanks for getting the address setup for the foundation jurov & for signing on to be the treasurer for the Foundation
jurov: or two
jurov: on that link there is a button
jurov: in the second email there is a link,
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ben_vulpes: i coulda sworn that i'd done that.
jurov: ben_vulpes" i told you several times: s'il vous plait, do register with the mailman. it will *not* register you automatically1
BingoBoingo: <satdav> mircea_popescu: is their windows setup for this << If you must use GPG on windows at least compile it yourself. The extant gpg4win binaries have a dubious reputation
satdav: mircea_popescu: is their windows setup for this
satdav: Yes very hard at times
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BingoBoingo: <PeterL> was there a consensus as to if I should add prestonbryne.com to scoopbot's list? << Prolly not, he stops by here very rarely.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: what would be truly astonishing would be - municipal gsm. but pig's chance of flight << Aha!
PeterL: was there a consensus as to if I should add prestonbryne.com to scoopbot's list?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: u.s. towns in this case are either prey or small change. tertium non datur. << Small, affluent compared to the surrounding error.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what would be truly astonishing would be - municipal gsm. but pig's chance of flight.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: u.s. towns in this case are either prey or small change. tertium non datur.
BingoBoingo: <bounce> the US does have a habit of starting some community initiative only to see it lobbied into the ground because it would be "unfair" to overpriced unwilling monopolistic large corporations << No, it happens. You just need a town that can get away with it. Muni internet exists here and had no serious opposition.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at the very minimum, one ought to live on jurov's site. (at present, i don't see it there.)
ben_vulpes: could deem this unnecessary, but...
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: as for source/patches, any turdbrigade member can put up unofficial mirror.
ben_vulpes: i'm talking about distributing a sourceball with patches merged.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: anyone who is genuinely serious about using bitcoin should be able to build it. it isn't rocket surgery.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at the moment i'm leaning against the idea of distributing binaries of whatever kind being a good one
ben_vulpes: there's also a discussion to have about how to distribute
ben_vulpes: there's that for sure
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: unless, naturally, we're waiting for the turdatron where we can all sign on the patches thus far (i'm all in favour)
punkman: was playing with vanitygen, found a 1tits address that also says "how hot" in private key
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: (from qntra) 'our project will likely discard the entire GUI in the near future' << already gone
asciilifeform: jurov: fix it before all the qntra readers laugh
asciilifeform: jurov's site still has the 1blabla... contract!
cazalla: you got the scoop this time scoopbot
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2014/11/introducing-a-new-bitcoin-foundation/
asciilifeform: "magic packet" undocumented behaviour of the subverted gavin-bitcoin << can't rule this out, but this would play straight into my 'clever buggers after all' hypothesis.
mircea_popescu: bounce no apparently they ran into an earlier issue
bounce: and the block problem is a DB handling problem, wasn't it? making swapping DB thingies a bit of a priority.
asciilifeform: not like this isn't a fool's errand anyway, if it's gonna clam up at block 250k << i actually have most of a patch for purely configurable block pumping. but shelved it and everything else for this reason.
cazalla: imagine having to build your website to accomodate such people or get your shit handed to you
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bounce: maybe the same reason why "modern" word-produced turds end up with more fonts than words
mircea_popescu: i think ima make a list of romanian cursing. the internet is appalling.
nubbins`: you'd see this occasionally in old letterpress shit, where the publisher ran outta type in the given font
mircea_popescu: yeah i was thinking, why em the "with"
nubbins`: side note: that's a silkscreened cover
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nubbins`: the proof is in the ping!
mircea_popescu: but if there was a candidate for "magic packet" undocumented behaviour of the subverted gavin-bitcoin, this is it.
bounce: or, well, start with dropping the things on the ml, it's there for this sort of thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: and zapping the idiotic db corruption <<< there is more to this story, i doubt it's just "corruption". sadly i dun have the smoking gun.
nubbins`: provide text file w/ trusted nodes as argument or smth
bounce: something to drop on a todo list in a wiki or something
mircea_popescu: (said fallback list being another thing that should go away, but iirc this was mentioned)
nubbins`: but hey, to boldly go
nubbins`: not like this isn't a fool's errand anyway, if it's gonna clam up at block 250k
nubbins`: ("kissco? the fu...")
mircea_popescu: bounce yes, actually, by editing the fallback list and wiping its other methods of acquisition
bounce: would be worth it to trace a couple yourself and pick a good one, then force-feed it
bounce: can you force what node it'll fetch the blockchain from?
mircea_popescu: did you rub sugar on it today ?
nubbins`: 60KB/s is probably the best upload speed i'll ever get from some random user
nubbins`: i'm assuming it grabs a diff node each time
nubbins`: yeah, see, bitcoind crashes ~1x daily on this vm
mircea_popescu: obviously exact result can not be known, because the specification is gavin's mother's cunt.
nubbins`: only thing i know how to flush is the toilet
mircea_popescu: nubbins` flush the node.
mircea_popescu: internet before that.
nubbins`: seriously tho, i'm downloading blocks over fiber at 60KB/s
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bitcoin is being introduced today for the first time, plays out exactly as described.
mircea_popescu: obviously usgavin then failed to deliver on this, as on anything else. another broken promise.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` satoshi's origina, likely defensible call was that "hack it this way so it works, fix later when more manpower"
asciilifeform: if sewer systems were introduced for the first time in today's usa, they would be an exotic and unobtainable thing. because would be unfair!!!11!! to 'private enterprise' fleets of honeywagons carting shit away for a dollar a turd.
bounce: the US does have a habit of starting some community initiative only to see it lobbied into the ground because it would be "unfair" to overpriced unwilling monopolistic large corporations
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's another one for the endless list : fix the motherfucking p0p implementation so it actually is p2p
mircea_popescu: z33andO_o that's a good point incidentally.
z33andO_o: if you pick a slow one then it takes ages
nubbins`: huly fu-u-u-u-u-ck it takes a long time to download the blockchain
asciilifeform: as for why not wireless - easy answer. cheap wireless would mean that folks with more money would not be 'sheared' adequately.
asciilifeform: ... can't afford to lay cable.
mircea_popescu: it's another because... uh... whatever the whiteplains excuse is.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to have shitty internet because you can't afford to lay cable.
bounce: but it's all the more poignant for the excellent backbone infrastructure that really doesn't exist in africa
mircea_popescu: really, most of the "poor countries" are basically ohio minus us style cops. bout same facilities and amenties.
mircea_popescu: lol i bet half of africa has better internet than half of ny state.
bounce: not sure why this concentrates on "cities of at least 50k households"
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mircea_popescu: the tophalf of a sphere always holds (2^n-1)/2^n of the volume.
mircea_popescu: and from there ownards.
mircea_popescu: in 3d, that proportion moves to ... 7/8.
mircea_popescu: the area (ie, 2d volume) of a circle (ie, 2d sphere) is pi r ^ 2. the area of a circle half as big ? pi (r/2) ^ 2. so therefore 3/4 of the sphere's volume is within the tophalf of its radius.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i deliberately left the proof as exercise for the interested readers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: chetty: n-dimensional sphere, as n increases << this is actually interesting to work out.