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asciilifeform: aka the 'let's you and him fight' theorem.
asciilifeform: all you gotta do - stand an laugh. then dine on fresh meat.
asciilifeform: then the other fellow'll shoot it.
asciilifeform: tease the dog until it bites.
asciilifeform: never shoot the dog.
asciilifeform: (asciilifeform) what the anglos did to germany, will be remembered as -the- 20th c. crime... (gernika) what the russians did to germany after the war << gotta understand the anglo m.o.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: likbez takes time unless a less ruminant thinker than myself writes likbez... (hint)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ferglubbssake write the waterfall likbez.
gernika: If that is correct, how does the cycle repeat? Or does it?
gernika: So Buterin's Waterfall works like this: Buterin announces scam coin sale. Chumps give him btc, bringing down the price of BTC which he then sells for fiat. Weak hands then sell btc for fiat on the market out of fear. Correct?
supay: interesting.. will have to go through that as well
BingoBoingo: People with Bitcoin pay Overstock.com for schlock and Overstock sells the BTC automagically, feeding Buterin's waterfall
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 337.42, Best ask: 337.92, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 337.9, 24 hour volume: 13734.04653623, 24 hour low: 328.8, 24 hour high: 344.17, 24 hour vwap: 339.147808319
BingoBoingo: supay: Well it works the same.
supay: there was another mention of a reason for the price drop - a lot of companies now accepting bitcoins. but how does that work?
supay: i see.. thats sad
BingoBoingo: Seriously BTC is a hard business this year. Jurov is surviving, barely, on 10 customers
BingoBoingo: In Bitcoin you have to realize the thing shortly went from soft adversaries (Trendon Shavers) to hard adversaries (Obola and Ebama) very quickly
supay: the logs you linked me to have a mention of how the FBI seize of the SikRoad BTC might be a cause.. i've heard a lot of people saying the same, would that be nearly true?
BingoBoingo: supay: Qntra takes a lot of things.
supay: oh, okay.. thats seems sad considering a lot of people were expecting it to jump up all of a sudden..
supay: haha, im only here to get your opinions and possible explanations for the same.. i dont have the know how to write a paper etc
BingoBoingo: <supay> what do you guys think about the speculations? that 1btc will value anywhere between $10k to $40k or even more by the end of this year? << This year questionable, Next year possible, but work on your knife fighting skills
BingoBoingo: Yeah, I'm working on a summary, if you can beat e to it submit it for publiccation
supay: what do you guys think about the speculations? that 1btc will value anywhere between $10k to $40k or even more by the end of this year?
supay: okay, that seems understandable.
supay: ah, thanks
BingoBoingo: <supay> and what the reasons might be for the drop << Buterin's waterfall
supay: and what the reasons might be for the drop
supay: i was wondering if the bitcoin price will really rise again..
decimation: but also after the first world war, when the same population was starved and forced into debt slavery
decimation: after the war was over, but yeah firebombing counts too. Of course the source for that is "slaughterhouse five"
decimation: gernika: I guess I was more referring to the intentional policies of starvation and mass population displacement
BingoBoingo: Anglos Firebommed and scared defectors with the "Russian threat", Russians at the time offered "Stalin"
gernika: I would not be surprised at the gap in my knowledge given my public education.
gernika: interesting - the movie I saw was more about what the russians did to germany after the war. Wrt anglos are we talking firebombing?
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2014 04:55:38; asciilifeform: what the anglos did to germany, will be remembered as -the- 20th c. crime.
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2014 04:50:50; asciilifeform: there were fully-functional german hamlets in, even, kazakhstan
assbot: Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: the pediwikia article isn't too bad, lots of links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29
gernika: decimation any good sources to read about it? Seen some german movies about the immediate post ware period.
decimation: most folks today never learn about the complete Apocalypse that faced german people after wwii
cazalla: i dunno full story tbh, opa was in the wehrmacht and we have photos of him as an officer but my father reckons he wasn't an officer despite the photos and shit
decimation: cazalla: were they fleeing the post-wwii misery of germany?
cazalla: well, his family being his parents at the time and not me obviously
decimation: I've heard that there is quite a large number of germans in australia
BingoBoingo: <decimation> what I find interesting is - why do these poor indian kids with a 'work ethic' really want to come to the us? as I posted here a few days ago, odds are that they will end up in some kind of debt slavery (aside from their indentured servitude) << Because the previous generation used their surplus income to establish petit dynasties
decimation: cazalla: were they POMs?
decimation: what I find interesting is - why do these poor indian kids with a 'work ethic' really want to come to the us? as I posted here a few days ago, odds are that they will end up in some kind of debt slavery (aside from their indentured servitude)
cazalla: australians really hate boat people which is amusing given so many of us actually came by boat, my parents included, 50-60 years back, it's like they don't want to be reminded
BingoBoingo: <decimation> I guess I just wish for a hopeless outcome, which is that the us will not become (or already mostly is) a third world country << Twas inevitable. Blame the WASPs
decimation: I guess I just wish for a hopeless outcome, which is that the us will not become (or already mostly is) a third world country
cazalla: decimation, yeah, if you try to come by boat but come by plane and it's easy
cazalla: and i was not much a fan of them until i lived with one indian guy and he made the best hainanese chicken so all is forgiven
decimation: I thought australia had very strict immigration rules
BingoBoingo: Networking, priveledge, reciptority, these are old mechanics. There were Roman Charioteers who earned more from sport than A-Rod could imagine
cazalla: the indians come to australia on a 457 visa to work at places like mcdonalds
BingoBoingo: <decimation> I'm sure the doctors, lawyers, etc would be more than happy to ensure that poor indian kids learn computers and not us law << Of course, even with the obamacare bezzel established families in medicine have a strong advantage
BingoBoingo: That is why stan doesn't atm have a ranch and to bitches trained in rifle-fu
decimation: I'm sure the doctors, lawyers, etc would be more than happy to ensure that poor indian kids learn computers and not us law
decimation: well, there's little doubt in my mind that the reason h1b visas are 'tech' targeted is because engineers have the least political pull in the us
BingoBoingo: ^ Depends on specialty. My brother who cam from the same poor ass lineage i did is now in Dentistry with his SJW wife and adorable dog
gernika: BingoBoingo You have to realize the h1b thing is USia's last defense against the doctor, retailer, doctor pipeline << even doctors and lawyers are slaves in the US now, due to student loan debt.
assbot: History and Timeline | Circle K: Convenience store chain providing quick stop services including fuel, food, snacks, drinks, cigarettes, beer and our world-famous Polar Pop
BingoBoingo: <assbot> From Germany to Mexico: How America’s source of immigrants has changed over a century | Pew Research Center << I'm not refering to the most desperate, I'm talking about empire building follow from history http://www.circlek.com/history-and-timeline?language=en to the current reality
assbot: From Germany to Mexico: How America’s source of immigrants has changed over a century | Pew Research Center
decimation: where were they in 1910? http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/27/a-shift-from-germany-to-mexico-for-americas-immigrants/
BingoBoingo: decimation: Only on paper, the real power is there are always poor kids in India with dreams and a work ethic
gernika: The goal doesn't have to be meaningful. It just has to be achieved.
decimation: BingoBoingo: the real thing that enables this are "family relocation" visas
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2014/11/thai-mining-operation-catches-fire-estimated-7-petahashes-lost/
gernika: Yes. Everything and anything for the goal.
BingoBoingo: And I'm not talking about the Urban tradition of Arab shops, I'm talking about motherfucking Circle K, king of the Midwestern convenience market
BingoBoingo: <decimation> BingoBoingo: the question is - do their children have the same work ethic/. << For a generation at least, but there's always more people with a work ethic who can sustain the system.
decimation: BingoBoingo: the question is - do their children have the same work ethic/.
BingoBoingo: <gernika> Silicon valley companies are full of h1b slaves << You have to realize the h1b thing is USia's last defense against the doctor, retailer, doctor pipeline
scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/you-know-what-you-should-do/
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the locals are haetful. because he outworks them. << Generally the way this work in US is eventually Indian family produces doctor in US, they use their surplus to bringing in hardworking family members willing to put all effort into running fuelstation/convenience stores, shopkeep cousins succeed, finance next generation of doctors, pale natives bitch that people were willing to work at shopkeeping
gernika: I like the h1b worker as slave idea. Everything makes so much more sense now.
decimation: they hold gym class on the mall as I recall
asciilifeform: they like to set up little stands with 'atrocity porn'
asciilifeform: we have a pestilence of these in wash., d.c.
mircea_popescu: imagine this. romanian rural population, making ~2-3k a year, thinks themselves better.
mircea_popescu: the locals are haetful. because he outworks them.
asciilifeform: or the gurlz in that restaurant in timis, yes
mircea_popescu: was an obgyn in china. had a wife, math teacher.
asciilifeform: if they were slaving in uranium mine - another matter altogether.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a slave is a slave. the responsibility for his actions is his master's.
asciilifeform: slavishly carrying out the rituals of 'scientocracy' - yes.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> the numbers I have seen are that ~%80 of the 'skilled workers' brought in on h1b visas have completely phony credentials << Difference is Usians with phony credentials tend to get along better at work parties
decimation: they refuse to say it, but tacitly allow it
mircea_popescu: just, at a skill the puritanical state refuses to name. "slavery" say.
mircea_popescu: decimation not so. the chinese guy in his example was well skilled
asciilifeform: now, the 'protectionist case' is not made here, because 'where there is a great birdlessness, my arse is a nightingale'
decimation: the numbers I have seen are that ~%80 of the 'skilled workers' brought in on h1b visas have completely phony credentials
mircea_popescu: i don't happen to care that usians believe sucking cock is not something to be good at
asciilifeform: lab - 90% these folks, by weight.
mircea_popescu: i think you miss my meaning. " if some sort of either efficiency or adherence to reality"
mircea_popescu: k t
asciilifeform: 'how did you get the sheepskin?' - 'washed glassware for advisor, same as the others.'