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Vexual: well, I also liken you to him a lot
cazalla: you already told me where Vexual
mircea_popescu: everything gotta be repackaged in the libertardism du jour, because a worthless tool is perhaps going to be less visibly worthless if it's nominally used to solve all problems.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck all this song and dance about "our values abhor" and "degrading misoginistic" blablabla baclava. what's wrong with the obivious "this is a fucktarded kid, broken in the head to the degree he imagines strangling strangers is an adequate substitute for his absent social skills, we don't want him here, and ideally he should be undergoing a special needs program somewhere."
mircea_popescu: lol derp goes around randomly strangling strangers as a pickup method ? jesus these idiots.
mircea_popescu: what do your values think about chocolate fudge ?
mircea_popescu: shit, your values are an agent now over there ?
mircea_popescu: "This guy wasn't pushing forward political ideas, he was putting a view that was derogatory to women and that's just something that our values abhor in this country," he said.
cazalla: Mr Blanc, from US-based group Real Social Dynamics, was forced to hold his event on a boat on Melbourne's Yarra River last night. <<< poor guy :\
Vexual: a tender kangaroo cut beats any venison
asciilifeform one day will visit parts of the world where one can actually hunt deer
asciilifeform: (point re: deer was that habitat creation, rather than destruction - as envirowhiners normally focus on - is a thing)
mircea_popescu: fucking things you didn't even know existed come out of places you didn't even know existed to check it out.
asciilifeform: doesn't help that no one hunts the beasts here (densely populated, shoot one deer and bag three random bozos)
asciilifeform: who feed on the brush at the border.
mircea_popescu: being a hunter is a great boon to wisdom.
asciilifeform: a road was cut through forest, and pestilential explosion of deer
asciilifeform: in the past season i got to watch precisely how deer work.
mircea_popescu: the interfaces, wounds, muddy waters, everywhere there's a border is where things happen.
asciilifeform relaxes analogy a bit, lest it stretch so taught that it snap.
asciilifeform: (back to the titanic pile of acorns, it did - if only by accident - make a useful point: sufficiently concentrated pile of $goodies is a 'target-rich environment')
asciilifeform: there is something in him of the 'freedom-loving sp4mz0rz'
asciilifeform: imho he just imagines preferring to be buggered raw by 'nature' than molested however gently by... tech-augmented molesters.
mircea_popescu: clever, dirty thinker is pretty much how you say "utopian"
mircea_popescu: no technology, all equal, utopia realised.
mircea_popescu: best i can see he's the luddite sort of socialist, believes technology empowers intelligence to manifest as difference
mircea_popescu: thought maybe you had a theory, along with the key.
asciilifeform: the 'clef' to the 'roman a clef' of orlov is that he wants, more than anything, to live to see some kind of 'curtain call' on technological civilization and coherent culture -as a concern.-
mircea_popescu: because that's what mols are.
mircea_popescu: take my earlier piece re cooling. i in fact had counted fucking gas molecules, in the untold zilions.
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asciilifeform does not disagree, in fact fumed indignantly when first read that piece
mircea_popescu: they have very different degrees of liberty. can't freely interface them like this.
asciilifeform: but, suffering from some of the same intellectual vices, i find him entertaining
mircea_popescu: see, dirty thinker. i mean the squirels are a much ulterior consideration to thinking.
asciilifeform: hasty and prone to leaps of wish.
mircea_popescu: very dirty thinker this guy. keeps mixing things that live on different deductive levels.
asciilifeform: ^ his attempt to address the question of gravitational collapse of maxint gold
mircea_popescu: so i suppose "in the real world" pluricellular organisms don't exist.
asciilifeform: have lost track of, somehow. Once δ > 0, you have achieved diminishing returns, and once δ > 1, you have achieved negative returns.'
asciilifeform: o keep track of, and your concerted effort to keep adding one more to the pile while fighting off squirrels may cause small children to start calling you silly names. The bigger the pile grows, the more likely you are to have to take inventory, and in the process you are increasingly likely to make a mistake, so that it turns out that 1,000,000 + 1 is in fact 1,000,001 - δ, where δ is the number of acorns you
asciilifeform: 'Mathematics uses induction—the idea that if 1 + 1 is 2 then 2 + 1 must be 3, and so on up to an arbitrarily large quantity. In the real world, if you are counting acorns, then 1 + 1 acorns is not the same as 1,000,000 + 1 acorns—not if there are squirrels running around, which there will be once they find out that you are the one who's been stealing their acorns. A million acorns is just too many for you t
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mircea_popescu: the last simultaneous events happened like what, 100 trn years ago ?
asciilifeform: clever optical trick.
mircea_popescu: it is still one thing.
asciilifeform: might as well tally up all of rome, etc
asciilifeform: ah, but trick is - not all at once.
mircea_popescu: actually the chinese wall was prolly in the 10bn range ppp wise.
asciilifeform: where's the steel pyramid?
asciilifeform: (from the entire planet!)
mircea_popescu: a one mile by one mile steel plate pyramid about 100 meters tall will get you there.
asciilifeform: a black hole to vanish into.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform standard steel plate is like 1k per ton.
asciilifeform: 'if all the elephants in the world were dropped in one pile, the whales - in another...'
asciilifeform: remains to be seen, if could
mircea_popescu: you COULD make a spaceship that easily exceeded that.
asciilifeform: because that amount of actual money, in one place, would collapse into a cosmic singularity
asciilifeform: it would not even be too fantastic to say, that nothing in fact costs 5bn
asciilifeform: 5bn in bezzlatron. use soviet figures (converting to modern 'weights and measures' is a separate voodoo) for a bit closer to reality.
mircea_popescu: decimation: my openbsd port of bitcoind suffered a fatal exception at block 150872 <<< not that exceptional.
cazalla: so blake's friend died prior to him taking over SR 2.0, maybe it was his YOLO moment
mircea_popescu: decimation: if you want something modern and not a rusty bucket you are talking ~$1-2 bn and your money can't buy one << you gotta be kidding me. an aircraft carrier is like 5bn. and i mean a large 100k tdw one, not the shitty 50k uk has.
mircea_popescu: Adlai: but sometimes it takes a tough turd to season a savory salmon <<< i've yet to see this in practice.
asciilifeform: let'em dig into the silt.
mircea_popescu: what do you think lakes are.
asciilifeform: no reason these need to float.
asciilifeform: what storm at the bottom.
mircea_popescu: untying the novel mess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: the hedgehogs would be approximately the size of christmas tree ornaments. <<< god help you after the first storm,
mircea_popescu: i am blessed in that i can just order cake into being.
asciilifeform: also to have the cake.
mircea_popescu: the secret to great cake ? don't oversugar.
mircea_popescu: im having like the best banana-chocolate cake
asciilifeform: who goes willingly to the fermenter?
asciilifeform: for them - biodiesel.
asciilifeform: precisely because the alternative is for their children, if for anyone
asciilifeform: if given an 'alternative' that's slightly more attractive than drooling despair and starvation, they'll bite.
mircea_popescu: but they don't exactly understand enough to know where their shoes go.
mircea_popescu: so you know, the "small government ; work within the system ; we can fix things" people are nice and quaint and no doubt mean well
asciilifeform: (idiot fuffle that fudged numbers)
asciilifeform: we even have the financial equivalent of 'ramdoubler'
mircea_popescu: except if your os has a huge memory leak baked right in. then they don't.
mircea_popescu: all the tea partiers and so forth keep going on about how "capitalism works by itself". sure, so do computers.
asciilifeform: from the food replaced with synthetic garbage, to the car which costs a few years of avg. pay (hello ussr 1950) to... whatever.
mircea_popescu: which is why the economy can't really function "on its own"
asciilifeform: but, as various people proved to the satisfaction of any but the thickest case of maliciously ignorant - it's everywhere.
asciilifeform: the man on the street is gagged with 'shuddup plebe, where's the hyperinflation, nowhere'
asciilifeform: so what if yesterday there was a penny and today - two.
thestringpuller: i thought it was the insurance companies
asciilifeform: it may very well be the case that, in the bulk of it, gram for gram, the answer is: printing press.
asciilifeform: incidentally, the hunt for 'who pays' in cc fraud may be a unicorn hunt.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, coin.org should be confirmable once digital btc submit their next quarterly to the asx
mircea_popescu: heck, by now they even have automated "ecommerce sites" making software.
mircea_popescu: at some point ebay revenue was 40% that
asciilifeform: with the enthusiastic cooperation of 'paypal' et al.
asciilifeform: buy worthless domain for 1mn, then laundered 800k out of it << incidentally, the ancient 'secret' of 'ebay'
thestringpuller: i guess people got sick of being the "gemholder"
thestringpuller: http://bitcoingem.net/history << remember when this shit would get up to like 20 - 30 btc?