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mircea_popescu: did
this fellow have a bunch of self-hate issues or something ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol way
to go on a rant. clearly
the quoted guy meant "people" as in groups.
the implication
that naggum isn't a person is not found inside
the op's position.
mircea_popescu: the reason contemporary arabs still believed stuff abandoned as lulzy centuries ago in europe has everything
to do with me being
the first nonbeliever
they ever met.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah,
that may well explain it. lack of experience makes any fiction plausible
to
the noob mind.
mircea_popescu: yet...
the sky is not kept up
there by "respect", not of
this, nor of
that, nor of anything.
mircea_popescu: notably, primitive minds in egypt had pretty much
the same fiirm conviction last i visited.
mircea_popescu: primitive religious minds all over europe firmly believed
that unbelievers can not be decent, and will kill
themselves or go on a rampage or something
mircea_popescu: in a more scholarly perspective :
that "respect for others" argument is an exact reprise of
the historical argument for "the respect for god". especially in
the posited ill effects.
mircea_popescu: i don't happen
to be stuck in either of
those
two fixations
that he proposes as fundamental, and somehow
the sky is not falling upon
the earth.
mircea_popescu: " Losing respect for people is
the first step
towardsthe criminally insane mind. Losing
the ability
to
think of otherhuman beings as of one's own kind is
the last,
the idea
that one isdifferent from others, an outsider
to humanity. You have crossed
thatcrucial line, probably a long
time ago." <<< fwiw, naggum i
trivially invalidated by example.
mircea_popescu: you should see
this place.
they are "horribru racists", which somehow correlates (unexplainedly, really!) with
their very serious
take on newspapers.
they have like, actual editorials, and stuff.
chetty: use a word not on
the approved list and you will never get
that job, obviously you are a dangerous 'thinker'
mircea_popescu: (explanation of
that joke, for
the recent : fifty years ago,
the way
to say "we fucked" was
to say "we made it")
chetty: the list of 'approved' words will be down
to a few hundred in no
time.
mircea_popescu: he has
the chance of a snowball up satan's arse
to do a better job
than all
the femiwhales running around using words for purposes.
mircea_popescu: so what,
trojan horse,
trying
to ruin
their language ?
mircea_popescu: if he imagines saving a few bytes of notation can have any sort of measurable impact on
the workload of culture.
mircea_popescu: i would say
the definition-tree for
the average noun is megabytes long.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for
the record, because i realised
this while sleeping re some convo a few days ago : "knowing what a word means" is, for
the marginally illiterate "read-by-letter"
type, a matter of memorizing definitions.
this however is at best a sorry approximation of
the real deal.
assbot: Re: Israel
Thomas and Marcus G. Daniels and respect for people - Naggum cll archive
mircea_popescu: imagine what
the web would be like if domain name resolution worked on a "what know domain is
this new domain most like"
mircea_popescu: i hold
that libtards are born by using "own head" as a source
to extract
the unknown.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, when
the "internet" from microsoft encounters a word aka domain name it doesn't know
chetty: it means you got
to go consult some 'authority' instead of using your own head ..
chetty: well yeah, but why limit
the
toolbox
that way
mircea_popescu: the unrigurousness of natural language is fundamentally useful here. you can ask about
this without being able
to define
this.
chetty: but
they dont have any
tools ....
chetty: learning initially with phonics lets a pérson breakdown a word
they encounter
that dont know regardless of
their normal reading method.
The look-say method people are stuck.
mircea_popescu: so if
this
thing exists,
then
the process mus also exist.
mircea_popescu: (i mean, cases where
the
text was correct, but your brain
threw an exception)
mircea_popescu: well yes. but iof you count,
the syntax error is almost always caused by an error collating
the stems with
the endings.
mircea_popescu: at least, judging by
the
types of errors
that end up forcing me
to re-read, vast majority of which indicate a mismatch in
the 3rd stage.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure 3rd stage reader actually has
two cvasi-simultaneous processes where
the same photogram as registered by eyes is first parsed for stems
then parsed for endings and
they get superimposed in a 3rd stage
mircea_popescu: for
that matter, i mostly read by-sentence-structure, especially when skimming
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as you're going
to read whole-word, his entire blabla does really not matter
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the problem with
this approach being
that literate readers do not actually read by letter anyway.
mircea_popescu: s not attempt
to draw any significant parallels between sight and sound, are at a loss."
mircea_popescu: "I was able
to validate my hypothesis
that quite a few English-speakers lack phonological awareness and are not aware of
the alphabetic principle. Many people have simply memorized some number of words, by sight and by sound. And since learning Unspell involves having
the ability
to analyze spoken English as a series of phonemes, people who have been
taught
to read English using
the “look and say” method, which doe
mircea_popescu: it actually isn't cost effective for
them, just like shitting cow dung is not cost effective for you.
mircea_popescu: Naphex : asciilifeform has a much more fundamental approach
to
things. he's not really a business minded / cost oriented fellow.
Naphex: you
think it
takes years?
Naphex: asciilifeform: prolly a few days
to set up
the infrastucture and 're-ingineer'
the essentials in bitcoind
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do you expect
to
target viagra ads ?
chetty: well
this rape culture
thing seems
to mostly consist of lopped off balls,
that is something I regret. Much better uses
than fertilizer for such
things
mircea_popescu: seriously, executive ? what's
that mean,
that he has license
to fuck your girlfriend ?
mircea_popescu: take
the body in
this case : a whiny 25 yo beta masquerading as an "executive dating coach".
chetty: unfortunately all
these lost causes leave a
trail of bodies behind when
they move on
mircea_popescu: "the left always wins" in
the sense
that
the left is dumb as rocks, and rocks always win, in
the sense
that nevermind.
mircea_popescu: then we ignored
them,
the problem somehow magically went away,
they're no longer mentioning it (and in no case are
they mentioning it as what it was : here's our most resoundingly humiliating defeat
to date)
mircea_popescu: sort of like
the ecologists,
that made all
the bruhaha in
the 90s about how
the world was going
to end because ozone layer, and if "We" don't "do" what
they say it';s gonna be bad etc
mircea_popescu: so now
they've moved on from "porn activism", a soundly lost battle,
to "rape culture" bs.
mircea_popescu: in spite of all
the "successes" (like getting deepthroat
to lie and so on) it never went anywhere. for
the obvious reason.
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: haha, don't even get me started on
this
topic, special snowflakes, special snowflakes everywhere.
mircea_popescu: somehow
the (other) elephant in
the room (ie, "dogs wouldn't fuck you, if you paid
them") is gingerly never mentioned.
mircea_popescu: they hang around with
their friends
talking about how wrong it all is.
mircea_popescu: "rape culture" it is, ie,
they don't hang around with
their friends
talking about what it was like last night, like
THOSE SLUTS
mircea_popescu: they soon enough discovered
that society doesn't care, so now
this large headcount of overweight, middle aged women are
trying
to invent
their own version of fucking
that'll link
them
to actual society
mircea_popescu: however, a bunch of people have managed
to paint
themselves into a corner, by an unfortunate meeting of government welfare and libertard ideology.
chetty: I been hearing
that
term 'rape culture' a lot recnetly, what
the hell is
that?