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kakobrekla: incloudibly ? i think they are the ones that down allow irc bots
asciilifeform: 'If you don’t like the Bitcoin Foundation, you could start a new one, right? Sure, absolutely. Just like you could start a new river Thames. Have a shovel. Start digging.' << lol!
kakobrekla: below it sez >Proudly brought to you by Incloudibly.
asciilifeform: no wot presence, no symptoms of actually working tech. what's the appeal then ?
kakobrekla: seems like their page is bit broked
asciilifeform: took 20 or so seconds to load
Adlai: "absolved from all allegiance to any entity… is to pay a tax into the coffers of the Bitcoin Foundation"
assbot: Daniel P. Barron (@danielpbarron) on Twitter
PeterL: mircea_popescu: sure, it is something I was planning to do soon
mircea_popescu: i think pankkake published the code he was using somewhere
mircea_popescu: PeterL hey listen, can you make a website for the scoopbot bot ? put it under blogs.bitcoin-assets.com liek before ?
punkman: yeah ok, was more useful before the website existed
mircea_popescu: and only announce when tx'd.
mircea_popescu: i would think take out the "bundle made" thing entirely
punkman: and what about announcing titles here
punkman: mircea_popescu: I'll make it grab, say the first 100 chars on the first line and use that for titles.
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mircea_popescu: if only we had that many experts.
assbot: There should be, ideally, a qntra for every topic, where experts simply tell the truth, plainly, in form and style. Would people get it?
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cazalla: mircea_popescu: cazalla pls to gazette <<< looks like BingoBoingo did so while i was sleeping
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mircea_popescu: and can it also use the first line as the title of the document always, so the "Title: " magic words are no longer needed in deeds ?
mircea_popescu: and can it put say 32 bytes so obtained off each deed in a " ; " separated list that it pastes here ?
mircea_popescu: punkman can the punkbot skip the pgp header all the way to the next \n after "Hash:" ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think quantcast counts ddos
mircea_popescu: hehe check that out!
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BingoBoingo: Also qntra traffic up again, time to hire! https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net
mircea_popescu: not an easy task, finding such among the pile at his disposal.
Apocalyptic: "That's absurd. The whole Lavabit episode actually indicates how strong the CA infrastructure really is", hearn
BingoBoingo: Silkscreening is what makes the robes weird
ben_vulpes: CHAPTER TWO: IN WHICH THE USIANS LOSE THEIR HEADS
mircea_popescu: bounce explain it to me like i were five!
mircea_popescu: why should they pay.
bounce: you don't get why that's a bummer? that's really bad.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard> for example: amazon would pay little to no tax on profits. Yet their consuming lots of benefits from the state (presumably) << i dunno how that is supposed to stand. if they're not making a profit then their users are deriving all the benefit.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> * BingoBoingo enjoying that out cult nao has an official tithe <<< all that's missing for full blown religion is the weird robes. << Get nubbins' to print them!
bounce: "your mother dresses you funny". there, all done.
mircea_popescu: * BingoBoingo enjoying that out cult nao has an official tithe <<< all that's missing for full blown religion is the weird robes.
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> “pay a tax in sum of 0.1% or a hundred thousand satoshi per full Bitcoin realised” <- Is this tax on profit or revenues? << profit
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> I wonder which corporations will move to that profit model << bitcoin corps, basically.
assbot: The #bitcoin-assets deed system pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
bounce: you know, first time I see this thing is it getting signed.
ben_vulpes: and in any case, those tithing will make the call on their own.
Pierre_Rochard: yet they’re*
Pierre_Rochard: for example: amazon would pay little to no tax on profits. Yet their consuming lots of benefits from the state (presumably)
BingoBoingo enjoying that out cult nao has an official tithe
Pierre_Rochard: off the top of my head: (1) avoid companies playing games with expenses to minimize taxable profits (2) widen the base to unprofitable and break-even companies (why should they be indirectly subsidized by profitable companies)
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ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: okay so indulge me, because i know nothing about the pros and cons of taxation: what are the benefits of taxing revenues?
Pierre_Rochard: ben_vulpes: both tax on revenues and tax on profits have their pros and cons. So I’m assuming the answer to my question is that it’s a tax on profits
ben_vulpes: imagine the pathological case where an operation's barely scraping by with margins of, oh let's just say 0.1%.
ben_vulpes: how does a tax on revenues make any sense?
Pierre_Rochard: “pay a tax in sum of 0.1% or a hundred thousand satoshi per full Bitcoin realised” <- Is this tax on profit or revenues?
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ben_vulpes: i don't think that dating these things is necessary. they embed in the blockchain, after all.
thestringpuller: or structure profits to make donations
thestringpuller: I wonder which corporations will move to that profit model
punkman: chetty: is there a crib sheet somewhere on using the deed thingy? << it's just one command!
punkbot: jurov: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.
ben_vulpes: i recall doing this before...
punkbot: ben_vulpes: Error: There is no command "list".
punkbot: ben_vulpes: (deed [url]) -- the bot will search [url] for signed deeds and queue them.
punkbot: ben_vulpes: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands.
chetty: is there a crib sheet somewhere on using the deed thingy?
mircea_popescu: da fuck is that ?
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mircea_popescu: sooo where are these nude photos of Miss Teen USA 2013 ?
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Title: BITCOIN DECLARATION OF - Pastebin.com
mircea_popescu: better than a car crash.
asciilifeform: gotta sign, so we 'all hang together or separately' (as, i think, were the words of the americans.)
mircea_popescu: well, sign the text put it in the deeds
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Title: BITCOIN DECLARATION O - Pastebin.com
jurov: i think he got devoiced due to nick changes
mircea_popescu: jurov: and next time read teh rules << uh what'd i miss ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla: where did i read about gold and problem of keeping it safe before? << heh. and they mention it, too, because they're cultured and stuff. o.O
mircea_popescu: bounce: ... and do so in a way that makes your browser bar turn a nice comforting colour << that.
mircea_popescu: dignork: bounce: proposition of CA issued cert for tor hidden service still puzzles me, next stop - yellow pages for black market vendors << nah, it's quite obvious, BingoBoingo has it : us sponsored terrorism.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: The thing is... Other my email is listed. Looks more like spear fisherman. << nah actually looks legit.
jurov: but twas 10 years ago, it has new maintainer since
jurov: yes that
bounce: per line? that sounds a little excessive.
bounce: oh I don't know that. if the lines get long enough things get "interesting" in a hurry
mircea_popescu: bounce in any case, consider that putting a \n every 80th character is a lot easier than extracting spurious \ns
jurov: on portable device, one may leed less than 80
mircea_popescu: may be related to what books one grew up reading.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i think i read about 110
mircea_popescu: and is magically the same for everyone ?
jurov: just resize the window?
bounce has awk to put the overly long lines into something comfortably readable. screens may get bigger and bigger, but the comfy line length doesn't change
mircea_popescu: then i have to run it through complex fucking awk to make it sane again
jurov: yes, hard-pre-wrapped text is hard to work with
mircea_popescu: bounce i hate nothing more than downloading a "text" document and instead getting a "text+markup that's identical to text and only works on obsolete machinery anyway"
jurov: let the browser format the text and offer raw text for download
jurov: well, everyone is lazy and just throws text into <pre>
bounce disagrees. 80 cols for the ages.
mircea_popescu: (your browser should have a fit-to-screen option. and generally, formatting should be done locally not fucking up the document with spuriousness)
mircea_popescu: these things always are :)