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mircea_popescu: multiple times.
mircea_popescu: easiest thing in the world is a mistake. the fucking cold war was won not by any other means than... mistakes.
pete_dushenski: https://www.debian-administration.org/users/dkg/weblog/48 << how to, just on the very-off-chance
asciilifeform thinks back to various stories of captive soldiers getting messages out through various clever means.
mircea_popescu: big bad is dumb as rocks, on its own. has nfi what all the things mean.
mircea_popescu: gotta understand that any big bad only exists as a work of fiction, otherwise is simply a collection of men. gotta give those men ways out, so that "mysterious" and "inexplicable" things happen
mod6: pete_dushenski: ah, yah, overlooked the flag *grumble*
asciilifeform: until i retire this key.
asciilifeform: problem is, let's say the devil has sha1 collision finder, and decides to apply to my case
asciilifeform probably ought to
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform so ancient that you can't setpref to SHA512?
pete_dushenski wonders why mod6 and asciilifeform signed the tithe3 with SHA1...
JorgePasada: Long time no see
asciilifeform: but more relevant to printers. fact is, reading anything technical that wasn't formatted for a particular page shape, and suffer idiot breaks.
asciilifeform: plenty of things were written to fit in its 'screen-full'
asciilifeform: well, elementary case of msdos text mode.
asciilifeform: fact is, i don't want to read code page-broken in random places.
asciilifeform: except those were vital organs, not warts
mircea_popescu: a man is not required to inherit his father's warts.
asciilifeform: also must appreciate how much hand-driven 'typesetting' (e.g., using linebreaks and editing around known fixed row/column viewers such as the 80x25 term) took place in the 'golden age' of fido et al
mircea_popescu: fwiw, asylum, which i typeset myself, was printed as a pdf. the house ran a large web press, did my run in like three hours.
chetty: adobe reps were very adept at sabatoge back in the w3c days
mircea_popescu: i am not proposing to remove the carpenter's hammers.
asciilifeform: basic problem here: if there were ten million idiots swinging hammers at strangers in the city streets, it does not thereby follow that carpenters ought to get by without hammers.
asciilifeform: aha i'll wait for somebody to asciiart my old soviet magazine scans, yes.
chetty: adobe is one of the pillars of evil
mircea_popescu: none of the fucking lines allign! save us microsoft!
mircea_popescu: how the fuck can you do that w/o adobe o noes!
asciilifeform: but notice humans are still involved in typesetting.
asciilifeform: incidentally, they have quite a bit of clever automatics re: reflow
mircea_popescu: it ALWAYS makes sense to be smart.
asciilifeform: tell that to the latex folks, they would love to know the elixir.
mircea_popescu: dude. i question it even makes sense to have a good programming language right back at ya!
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the problem is not nearly as hard as all that.
asciilifeform: i question that it even makes sense to ask for smart reflow independent of page size and shape
mircea_popescu: you know, while this may well be a pn complete problem in the general case,
asciilifeform: the only solution to above is to essentially do the typesetter's job and latexize it
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't have to.
asciilifeform: and reflowable text sent to printer, looks like piss.
asciilifeform: i like manuals, academic papers, etc. in dead tree.
mircea_popescu: smart isn't the world. about as sane.
mircea_popescu: i tell you. fixed-form is an instrument for talking with the braindamaged.
asciilifeform: it's still state of the art in driving printer.
mircea_popescu: which were demented at the time.
mircea_popescu: to talk to motherfucking printers
mircea_popescu: and it was used to ? wait for it!
asciilifeform: postscript (essentially the guts of pdf) existed.
mircea_popescu: nobody perceived a need for pdf back before sept 1993 did they ?
mircea_popescu: you pump out the text, they figure out how to display it ?
asciilifeform: what observables would be different if the audience were not demented, and could be trusted?
mircea_popescu: oh, wait, because the audience is demented and can't be trusted ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and why do they want this ?
asciilifeform: plenty of people who aren't the least bit idiotic or government-affiliated want to package a document and have it appear exactly the same on the other end of the wire.
mircea_popescu: keeping idiots poor and powerless is the only sound purpose of government.
mircea_popescu: then those idiots become a group large enough to drive fashions.
mircea_popescu: governments have actual money to waste, and they do on hiring idiots.
mircea_popescu: the reason for it is contained in the declaration's last paragraphs.
asciilifeform: it's essentially the same as the reason 'flash' exists.
asciilifeform: the interesting thing is the 'psychiatric' reason for the pestilential spread of pdf for text.
asciilifeform: i did write a gizmo that outputs graphical render for the pages, but realized that the bandwidth and disk cache costs would break my back, and then let the domain go to the vultures.
mircea_popescu: well, you gotta remember, a thing made is always a platform for further things.
asciilifeform: but then realized that it would be mostly useless (in those days, almost everything i ever saw in 'pdf' belonged in that or similar format - technical documents heavy on graphics)
asciilifeform: even included the caching thing
asciilifeform: kakobrekla, mircea_popescu, others - re: 'nopdf' - i actually used to own 'nopdf.com' and planned to put a similar widget there. (2009-ish?)
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mod6: <+asciilifeform> gotta sign, so we 'all hang together or separately' (as, i think, were the words of the americans.) << As true today as it was for Benjamin Franklin at the signing of the Declaration of Independence in 1776
jurov: ;;later tell Adlai you're in
punkman: adlai tried posting to mail list, but you don't have his key yet
assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Title: BITCOIN DECLARATION O - Pastebin.com
Adlai waits on the go
punkman: Adlai, gotta wait for key to reach jurov
Adlai: ben_vulpes: i'm not seeing it in the mailing list yet, and i have to leave. hope this cuts it: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pCFcsbrW ☟︎
Adlai: they're both the same overall protocol, just a serialization formats and signature algorithms
Adlai: that took way too fucking long and is just as [in]secure as using a privkey >_<
punkman: auth with bc, then changekey?
Adlai: punkman: ugh, it's sending me an encrypted otp, but responds to eauth with "Error: You have not registered a GPG key. Try using bcauth instead, or register a GPG key first."
punkman: adlai, echangekey should work I think, what error does it give you?
Adlai: how do i add a gpg identity to my gribble account? i'm already registered with a bitcoin address, and gribble responds to eregister and echangekey with "Error: Username already registered. Try a different username."
punkman: yeah the gingerbeer wasn't bad either
cazalla: punkman, prefer the gingerbeer and sarsparilla
Adlai: gribble | Error: Username already registered. Try a different username. << fucker
cazalla: punkman, he drinks fosters in his youtube videos and is under the impression that makes him an honorary australia
punkman: from that microguy https://www.startjoin.com/gogold
punkman: any objections to punkbot changing name to "notary"?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` http://www.fustar.info/2010/05/04/the-9th-circle-film-club-cybertracker-1994/ << this guy wanted a tshirt, in like 2010
mircea_popescu: http://www.fustar.info/wp-content/images/mr-proper.jpg < whatever that's called.
mircea_popescu: incomprehensible the void powering these... things, whatever they are. what was he doing before, talking to a bottle of draino about how he's bald in spirit, just like the genie guy ?
cazalla: this might be the first day since qntra started that i did not post.. nothing of interest today
mircea_popescu: things just got too redditesque all of a sudden.
mircea_popescu: wait. this dumb schmuck is talking to someone who isn't satoshi about how his fambly jesus christ
Adlai: (the author of the altcoinpress article)
cazalla: that is what i refer to
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2014 22:35:52; mircea_popescu: "Thank you for this clarification Mr. Nakamoto. It has been an honor to be labeled by my friends as "Satoshi's Drunk Uncle" and it's a moniker I'll wear proudly until the day I retire from Crypto. The Goldcoin (GLD) developers truly admire your work and strive to continue improving upon its design as a tribute to your unparallelled genius. Your admirer and relative in spirit, MicroGuy."
cazalla: <mircea_popescu> http://altcoinpress.com/2014/11/american-bitcoin-pirate-slammed-for-securities-violations/ << i don't get it. how is the pic related ? <<< same guy who claimed his friends/family called him satoshi's drunk uncle
Adlai has to wait at least a week though, his qntry needs him
Adlai: so this is a fairly important avenue to explore
Adlai: for all i know, my current parameters could be totally overfit to the quirks of two btcfiat marketplaces, or worse, the whole algorithm could be overfit to bitcoin's crazyness and may be totally worthless elsewhere
mircea_popescu: omg kako stop sabotaging yourself, you're ready darling! pop that cherry!
Adlai: but running scalpl on something other than btcfiat has been on the back burner for a long time, in part due to not wanting to touch any glitzy forex gambler-traps
Adlai: to assuage that look of terminal shock in your eyes: there's no real rush, i have an endless list of other turds to polish