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saifedean: check out Otto Warburg, German Nobel Laureate in Medicine, whose main contribution was
to discover
that it is only
through sugar intake
that cancer cells can grow. Eliminate sugar, eliminate cancer, it's
that simple. And
that, incidentally, is why hunter-gatherers have zero sugar
ben_vulpes: lobbes: excess energy in
the system develops parasites
lobbes: <+saifedean> if you eliminate grains, seeds and sugars, you effectively eliminate
the possibility of developing most modern diseases, including diabetes, cancer, alzheimer's, obesity, and so on << okay.. I can maybe see diabetes.. but
to eliminate
the possibility of cancer by cutting out sugar and seeds??
chetty: I read about
that coffee with butter
thing, havent had
the nerve
to
try it
ben_vulpes: dude what is with
the endless wordstream
saifedean: dark chocolate aint
that bad,
the
thing is, you never have
to completely eliminate anything... you just need
to drastically reduce some
thing and make sure
they are not a regular part of your diet
ben_vulpes: it puts a mess of holes about
three feet below
the water line of
this "ancient diet" crap.
joecool: sugar is not a concern
there
xanthyos: what's
the link
to
the wot faq?
chetty: ahh I be chocolate isnt on
the list, cant be doing without
that for more
than a week :P
saifedean: if you eliminate grains, seeds and sugars, you effectively eliminate
the possibility of developing most modern diseases, including diabetes, cancer, alzheimer's, obesity, and so on
undata: joecool: ah nobody needs
tons
joecool: berries yes, leafy vegetables of course, but fuck eating
tons of fruit
chetty: I dont
think I am
that far off paleo as it is, most of what I eat is raw fruit, veggies and meat anyway.
saifedean: But we are not meant
to eat
the seeds or
the grains,
they are meant
to go into
the earth
to bring forth more plants.
That;s why seeds and grains do not look appealing, do not
taste or smell good, and
they are absolutely destructive for our body if eaten. agriculture and modern processing over
the last 10,000 years has made
these
things slightly less destructive
to us and we have developed some capacity
to
tolerate
them, bu
joecool: nah fuck fruit
tbh, rarely eat
the stuff
ben_vulpes: saifedean: have you ever read
the 10,000 year explosion?
saifedean: we humans are simply not evolved
to eat grains and seeds. Evolution has worked for millions of years so
that
the fruit contains nutrients
that are good for us, and it also looks good, smells good and appeals
to us, because it's good for us and for
the plant
that we eat
the fruit, and
that's why we can eat it in
the raw.
chetty: only way
to drink coffee
joecool: if you don't like it, get better coffee and learn how
to make it
ben_vulpes: ;;later
tell diablo-d3 you're missing a paleo love-in
chetty: saifedean, ok, I can do
that (guess I better read up on it a bit, can I still have coffee?)
joecool: so i fasted a week or
two and did an additive diet
xanthyos: bringing a new guy here who wants in
the wot
saifedean: chetty: "but I really don't see passing on grain entirely."
Try it for a week and see what it does
to you. How hard can
that be? What do you stand
to lose?
joecool: i don't miss it, used
to ride insulin rollercoaster for years
chetty: <saifedean> oh chetty,
those who resist paleo
the most are
the ones most desperately in need of it!//
the paleo idea makes sense
to me, and for sure all
those chemical and stuff
that passes for food is bad idea, but I really don't see passing on grain entirely.
undata: saifedean: machines should extend
the mind of
their master
saifedean: i don't mind automation for as long as it does not compromise
the quality of
the
thing in question. So, a fridge is a good idea
to keep my steaks cool for a few hours between butchering and grilling. A deep freezer is not such a good idea coz
the meat will never
taste
the same.
undata: because I want
to be left alone
to work!
undata: I'm
trying
to find an article;
the sentence
that sticks out in my memory was something like "why would anyone buy lightbulbs when
they can just pay staff
to see
to
their candles?"
ben_vulpes: nah, just put hippies
to work running
the aquaponics
undata: it seems
to me
that
there are gains
to be found via automation which would allow a person
to both produce
their own food and have
time
to spare for other pursuits
undata: my parents have a largely self-sufficient farm, and
their processes are not particularly scientific
undata: I'm working on a software business for now; should
that succeed, I'd like
to look into automation products for small scale food production.
saifedean: undata but
then... who will raise
the aggregate demand?! How selfish would it be of all families
to
think of
their own survival and leave
the national economy
to flounder.
joecool: plenty of deer
to shoot and ran a large vegetable garden (did canning, freezing for winter, etc)
joecool: i've produced a good chunk of mine off and on over
the years
undata: you want economic security;
that's it.
undata: saifedean: its a dream of mine
that
there'll be a return
to families producing
their own food.
saifedean: oh but paleo is intimately related
to bitcoin: it is cheap money
that has plagued
the world with high
time preference and
that, in
turn, is what has
turned food from being nourishing
to a giant bezzle-funded industry
that aims
to provide sugar kicks and insulin spikes
to
the proles immediately when
the
temptation kicks in.
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joecool: ah i missed mp, funny seeing
the noob log
joecool: welcome
to #bitcoin-lifestyle
saifedean: oh chetty,
those who resist paleo
the most are
the ones most desperately in need of it!
undata: the cheese could go
too but
that's no way
to live
saifedean: well
thestringpuller, i've
tried
that shitty-ass diet and i
tried being paleo, and
there's no comparison. Once you
try going paleo, eating crap seems about as reasonable as not looking around before crossing
the street. Sure, it can be done... but why?
chetty: <<< never giving up bread and pastries but agree with
the 'crap' descriptor for most of what passes as food
undata: saifedean:
there is *so* much eaten
that is barely (if at all) food
saifedean: interesting... my idea is also
to make it a paleo restaurant... if you guys haven't gone paleo yet, let me just point
that making
the switch from
the crap
that everyone eats
today
to paleo eating is no less revolutionary
than jumping from
the world of bezzle
to bitcoin
chetty: saifedean, actually I
think
there is good call for
the sort of 'grill' you describe in Argentina,
the relaxed atmosphere,
the fire, etc. Steak may be great here but it could use some 'trappings'
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mircea_popescu: 1kg porterhouse steak is
the golden standard in my eyes nao.
saifedean: i should be finding out soon if my
trip will pan out and will let you know
saifedean: no i've never been
to argentina, but i did live in Rio de Janeiro for
two years as a kid
saifedean: well, as i said i am hoping
to go
to BA sometime soon, my argentine friend will be
there and it's meant as a crash course in grilling... i could just stick around, but i'd need me a new business idea for
the post-bezzlepocalypse
mircea_popescu: im curious when fluffypony shows over, see what he
thinks.
saifedean: they are
the absolute world champions, along with
the south africans
mircea_popescu: you come here, you have a good steak, you forgot why you ever wanted
to make a steakhouse. much like
the man who was considering doing his own plumbing out of reeds in lebanon, moves
to constantinople with
the marble baths forgets all about it.
saifedean: come on man, you're not expecting me
to go set up a grilling business in buenos aires, what was it about
taking
the coals
to newcastle...
saifedean: the main question
that remains now concerns
the location of my grill... Lebanon is my favorite place in
the world, but it might not be
the ideal location what with all
the religious wars breaking out... Vancouver is another possibility...
saifedean: my idea is
to prepare for
the future of
the
triumphant return of hard money, low-time preference, and civilization, and
to profit from it by doing good food properly, in a beautiful setting where you can relax around a big grill's fire and enjoy your meal like a civilized human
assbot: Let’s dig a little deeper into
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assbot: The problem of
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mircea_popescu: exactly right. cheap money and
the high
time preference.
saifedean: with
the emergence of bitcoin and
the destruction of
the world of bezzle and its instant gratification and fast food culture, people are going
to appreciate and pay
top dollar for
the quality stuff
that's done right
saifedean: there are many many
things
that make a good steak, most of
these
things require people who do
their work honestly and htink long
term, and pretty much everything in
that process is being destroyed by cheap money and
the high-time-preference it engenders in everyone from
the farmer
to
the waiter at your restaurant
mircea_popescu: i mean. of
the inch
thickness, a half inch in
the middle is barely warm.
mircea_popescu: ah.
the stuff
that you eat like salmon, practically ? half raw in
the middle ?
saifedean: my best friend is half-argentinian and half lebanese, and we've been
talking about
this restaurant
together for years, he's brought excellent argentine beef over
mircea_popescu: i mostly ate lamb and chicken over my
time among
the no-pok-people.
saifedean: in lebanon beef isn't very good, but
the lamb is excellent, and it is grass-fed
saifedean: well, why else did you move
to argentina but for
the excellent grass-fed beef?
mircea_popescu: <saifedean> a struggle
to secure excellent quality food << can you go into detail ?
saifedean: undata
that's why i'm still researching and
thinking of
this while keeping my academic job
undata: my god 4 walls and a door and I'm
there
saifedean: the way i see it, bitcoin will kill pretty much all
the world of bezzle, as i'm sure you folk agree, and
the only jobs
that will
thrive in
th future are
those
that involve actually doing something useful for other people which others appreciate and are happy
to pay for.
there are few
things in life people appreciate better
than a well-cooked steak, and few
things in life
that are done badly as often
ben_vulpes: but what are
the engineering arguments for an embedded kv store against which one cannot query well if at all vs. a embedded sql store?
saifedean: i definitely have
the
travel stories and
the pretty wife and zero shits are given about what may come... most my days are a struggle
to secure excellent quality food, a struggle which will only be resolved conclusively once i have my entire operation
mircea_popescu: it works extremely poorly if one merely copies
the visible parts of
the institution.
mircea_popescu: this model works extremely well if one has
the basement (not just
the gold, but also
the many
travel stories in
the basement of
their head)
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller saifedean i am familiar with your idea of restaurants.
these work as a retirement ploy by old merchants, who have an immense pile of gold in
the basement, a pretty wife and don't give a shit about what may come,
they juist want people
to hang out and chat with.
saifedean: the idea of being my own boss, and
to only be
the boss of a few people is ideal. easily beats having
to deal with hundreds of idiots in a large operatoin and suffer
their idiocy
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: if it's a pet, why would you want it
to scale? restaurants are cool because you get free food and a place
to "hang out"
chetty: sounds like a little piece of heaven
there saifedean
saifedean: if i could run a single operation very well, it could make enough income
to allow me
to live very well, while spending my days doing something i enjoy
saifedean: why
the hell would i want
to scale? if i wanted
to scale i'd join mcdonalds for a rewarding career and an early grave
saifedean: because honey badger doesn't give a shit, and because bitcoin is
the honey badger of money
mircea_popescu: saifedean maybe. i am also very good at cooking, people love my stuff and i could definitely get
them
to pay.
chetty: yeah but where does
the name come from? sounds
too much like honey pot, imo
undata: I like bitcoin and grilled food; I dunno about
the honey badger
thing