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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: interest, value... << the problem with using op's blockchain is that you're basically trusting the op
chetty: hahahaha I just saw what has to be the funniest traffic snarl ever. The train barrier on one side is stuck and cars/busses/trucks backed up as far as the eye can see. But its a one way street and the other side is wide open, nothing stoppping people just drive to the left ...
BingoBoingo: Oh, systemd documented ruining people's days in the wild http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/592
assbot: Apologies to anyone who read my posts last night!
BingoBoingo: Zimmerman was also a Hispanic Jew so also kind of on the minority spectrum, also not a police officer.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, think it'll be bad? they only smashed a few things after zimmerman was found not guilty
assbot: Nixon tries to reassure public, as people prepare for the worst : News
BingoBoingo: It's better than getting arrested in Silk Road scam
cazalla: well i suffer from this problem that i have 1, which is good, so 2 must be great, 3 is awesome and that's that
jurov: dunno what is with all the drinking in this chan
cazalla: i'll re-read tmw when sober
jurov: i don't think it's bad, just..idk, maybe someone else can pinpoint it better
jurov: which clarifies things
cazalla: well, not much else one can add with something like that, his talk isn't online so difficult to know what else he said
cazalla: jurov, do you think the qntra article is bad?
jurov: i read the source, too and this chuckleworthy info was snuck in the end:
cazalla: i'm sure it will make sense then
cazalla: "Much of the money will go directly to foundries with the highest technology in the world, including Samsung, Intel and TSMC"
jurov: and then "oh he's just yapping alone"
cazalla: well why not? he speaks in the name of bitcoin
jurov: first i was wtf, vessesnes is speaking in the nme of samsung?
jurov: cazalla i had to rerad it several times
assbot: Peter Vessenes: Half A Billion Dollars To Be Spent On ASICs Over 18 Months | Qntra.net
cazalla: scoopbot once again will not get the scoop
jurov: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/patches.html should spring into life when they are received
jurov: ben_vulpes asciilifeform, others: when are you going to send your patches in expected format?
jurov: <mircea_popescu> [20141112 05:22] either they stole openssh code (unlikely) << not openssh but openssL. as it is under BSD, they're free to do whatever wit it.
cazalla: mircea_popescu: yes, it serves someone wanting to jack off just fine, because nobody needs three hours of video to rub one out <<< tell that to the people that take 3 hours to find the ideal clip for that session
ben_vulpes: is there any interest in sharing a pre-wedge blockchain built by 0.5.3 around?
mircea_popescu: lol bankers saying things
decimation: 'the (upgrade) bell tolls for thee'
asciilifeform: so they can develop new orifices.
asciilifeform: and when they do, part of the reason is to goad lusers to force-update
asciilifeform: answer is, in many cases, they don't (often people reverse engineer them from recent patches)
asciilifeform: incidentally, some folks may wonder why microshit even bothers to announce pwnholes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they almost always print 'no mitigating factors' (as in, must install update or die)
mircea_popescu: "Microsoft's advisory said there are no mitigating factors and no workarounds for the bug."
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you may find that my patches rely on one another
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: congratulate the author
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to my eyes it reads like, "this is what they wanted", "openssh is the best implementation of it they managed to get before the whole thing got shot in the head"
asciilifeform: microshit is the ultimate execution of 'plausibly deniable' usg mandate.
mircea_popescu: either they stole openssh code (unlikely) or the thing was actually usg-mandated (which in some interpretations is one step above what we already knew, ie sponsored)
mircea_popescu: "A failure to properly filter specially formed packets makes it possible for attackers to execute attack code of their choosing by sending malicious traffic to a Windows-based server." << sounds like windows had a replica of heartbleed.
asciilifeform far more familiar than wanted to be
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the plan is promising because it engenders familiarity with the damned thing.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> ben_vulpes: what if the 'wedging' were caused by some dependency (memory leak, etc)? << this is undoubtedly the case for at least some wedgings
BingoBoingo: Refresh, someone found the old door, time for a new door
assbot: Potentially catastrophic bug bites all versions of Windows. Patch now | Ars Technica
decimation: nevertheless, there is at least some chance that your experiment will reveal something interesting
asciilifeform: external << worth pointing out that i did not build with 'period' libs.
decimation: not because the issue has been solved but merely because of a new arrangement in memory
decimation: sure, but it is at least possible that is stomping on the code in such a way that it doesn't work in one version, but then works in another
ben_vulpes: would the libraries not be held constant between bisections?
decimation: if something is stomping on something in those libraries it could be quite subtle
decimation: I guess my point is that if something external to the turd participates in the 'wedging' then the bisect plan won't really work
asciilifeform: here's another tidbit from 'valgrind' runs - leak is very slow prior to wedge, then appears to speed up
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: well, i was able to determine that wedging takes place prior to memory exhaustion
ben_vulpes: there is much contrast in the implications of these statements.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> not directly a cause of the wedge though
asciilifeform: not directly a cause of the wedge though
decimation: ben_vulpes: what if the 'wedging' were caused by some dependency (memory leak, etc)?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: were i to use a chain slightly downstream of the wedging to start the process, would that be less unlikely to work?
asciilifeform: (specifically - to see what, if anything, a >0.5.3 client will do with a wedged 0.5.3 chain)
asciilifeform: but - assuming you've the time/energy - there is no reason not to try it
ben_vulpes: well then shit i should copy this datadir while its yet unwedged
asciilifeform: rather than how it is decoded
ben_vulpes: if i'm not being clear, i plan to clobber the data dir on each run.
ben_vulpes: one for copying into the dir, one for launching from.
ben_vulpes: 2x the size of the wedged blockchain
ben_vulpes: if yes, mark as good with git bisect and proceed with binary search, repeating the above process until the unwedging commit is discovered.
ben_vulpes: this script will take the wedged blockchain on disk; copy it into the testing dir; compile bitcoind from a different point in the source tree; and boot it pointed at the wedged blockchain; and check to see if the output of 'bitcoind getblockcount' has gone up
ben_vulpes: my plan at the moment is to wait for my 0.5.3 binary to wedge itself, and then write a script that hooks into the git 'bisect' tool.
ben_vulpes: on an entirely different topic, i'd like to derp in public about bisection in hunt of the commits that unwedged 0.5.3
assbot: PeterL, have you seen the movie 'being john malkovich'?
ben_vulpes: things about ios 8 that drive me insane
BingoBoingo: assbot is the bot with the hero butt
assbot: what, its true
PeterL: assbot: you know they put lactose in lactase pills <<< wth assbot?
nubbins`: stick to what ya know
assbot: you know they put lactose in lactase pills
dignork: nubbins`: they just make them from money: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWhI4gi9nNk
joecool: i told her this too, she never had an issue with aged cheeses
nubbins`: i mean, old cheddar doesn't have much lactose to begin with.
asciilifeform: (works for a number of things)
asciilifeform: given that gene expression is a thing, this is actually a very easy way to give yourself food allergies
nubbins`: lactose-free dairy stuff is more common these days
joecool: happened to my ex
nubbins`: asciilifeform actually knows a fellow who lost lactose digestion as adult <<< this happened to my wife
asciilifeform: easy answer to riddle: money is typically heavy and does not blow away.
nubbins`: currently using a couple of cookie sheets, but they slide around
mircea_popescu: i am still frozen from having read that.
nubbins`: anyone know if you can carry money in a regular wheelbarrow or do they make ones w/ nets to keep the cash from blowing away?
PeterL: by the way, I added code to scoopbot, now if he disconnects he should reconnect, hopefully this will keep him running
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik, the fermentation makes it accessible to wussies
mircea_popescu: maybe they should start small, give the bright kids there lightbulbs
mircea_popescu: joecool i was just keeping his hands to the coals on the technicality of it. "retaining milk digestion past childood is a recent adaptation" etc.
joecool: <ben_vulpes> upregulation and downregulation is a thing < it's funny how many people forget this
mircea_popescu: this given, how long would it have taken some bored kids in central asia ?
mircea_popescu: mares literally love being suckled, and will love you if you suckle them