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mircea_popescu: i bought i dunno, 100 or so pairs of underwear about a decade ago. got
the same
things i always got ever since i was a kid. eventually
they run out and holy shit has
the underwear business gone nuts in
the meanwhile. what
the fuck are all
these
things even!
saifedean: that's a good start, but you need
to also eat lots of animal fat, which is absolutely very good for you.. and you need
to view doing carbs like an addiction, not a healthy food.
mircea_popescu: saifedean what's being dismissed anyway ? far as i can see,
the part where "eat less sugar and starch, it'll be good for you" is univerally accepted.
the rest, nobody has any use for.
nubbins`: but hey,
tall skinny guys get pushed around
nubbins`: i
think i'm fat because i lead a sedentary lifestyle
saifedean: mp, yes, sure, hence, asking questions about
things makes sense. dismissing
them with half-baked arguments is
time-wasting.
nubbins`: wait,
that's retarded. no i don't.
nubbins` challenges himself
to eliminate sourdough from diet
mircea_popescu: saifedean most of
the negative reaction comes from
the very marketing heavy approach. "you should challenge yourself" ? dude,
this is
the lordship here. you
think anyone gives a shit about such puny attempts ?
nubbins`: saifedean i literally do not have enough spare eyes
to roll
the appropriate amount in your direction
nubbins`: and
thye kept doing it and now i can eat pizza with impunity?
saifedean: nubbins no, i'm not. you're
the one who is setting up charicatures of arguments for you
to
tear
them down. i don't give
two shits what you eat, you don't have
to convince me. You should be
trying
to challenge yourself
to understand what I'm saying it, or ignoring it.
That you dismiss it like
that is silly
nubbins`: you know
there was a
time when cheese would make any human who consumed it ill?
mircea_popescu: otherwise you ACTUALLY get a cult. "thios is
the law and only i may know what it says"
nubbins`: "our" bodies adjust
to shit all
the
time
mircea_popescu: saifedean but you understand why when one proposes action on
the basis of a
theory, critical examination involves reviewing what would happen if
that
theory were applied by someone else
than
the proponent.
nubbins`: saifedean see
the
thing is, you're
treating "our bodies" as a homogenous group, when nothing could be further form
the
truth
mircea_popescu: nubbins` nah, more like, mary jane and anne were good sluts
this year, had 7 kids, 5 years later
the hyenas are fucked 3
to 1.
nubbins`: "cmon broud, my kid has diarrhea from eating beef, let us
take
the cave
tonight"
saifedean: nubbins, you have no idea how many
times i have heard
these non-sequiturs of arguments. briefly, no, you do NOT need
to emulate a caveman's life
to down
to its little details.
The idea is
to eliminate from your diet as much as possibel all
the
things
that are relatively recent additions
to our diet,
to which our bodies have not adjusted very well, and which are proven
to cause most of our modern illnesses. it fucking works
mircea_popescu: they also lived in
the same caves, alternating each other, depending on which group had stronger pups
that decade.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re pork eats shit etc :
the evidence is quite clear
that humans and hyenas were mostly commensal.
nubbins`: sounds
totally healthy and easy for modern man
to adapt
to
saifedean: hmmm.. de vany is a friend of
taleb, we should invite
the
two of
them here and have
them chill with your assassin cult
ben_vulpes: reminds me of someone else who spoke endlessly on
the
topic of wifi
nubbins`: if god wanted you
to eat cooked meat, he woulda installed a furnace in your
throat
nubbins`: but since we all know exercise and diet are linked,
things sorta got jumbled
together
mircea_popescu: saifedean if i add mah assassin cult
to nubbins`'s here powerlifter chick, art vandalay guy is in a world of
trouble.
nubbins`: by lifting shit she gained
the magical wisdom
saifedean: 77 years old and could kick
the collective ass of everyone on
this forum
mircea_popescu: i didn't realise you were implying
that by counting calories she has gained
the magical wisdowm of lifting shit
mircea_popescu: i
thought you were all in awe of
the woman's sheer muscular power
nubbins`: if we're
trying
to equate chinups with deadlifts,
technique is precisely what we're discussing
mircea_popescu: but
technique is not what i
thought we were discussing here.
nubbins`: well i guess it's not
the same
thing at all
then, is it :D
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i wouldn't do
that because i dun have
the
techniques and am
tall. prolly spring my back / give myself a hernia.
saifedean: though a swedish friend
tells me reindeer meat is
the best of all
mircea_popescu: incidentally, is saifedean like
the first noob ever
that gets away with
the sort of nutty forced ideas veterans usually display here ?
saifedean: I was saying... pork is
the shittiest of meats, as pigs eat shit. Beans are crap. fish is
the food of kings... as for land food, lamb is
the best, followed by beef, goat, chicken, everything else,
then pork.
nubbins`: anyway,
try deadlifting your own weight on a barbell some
time
nubbins`: well i guess you can loan out a few
to
the rest of us
saifedean: heh... my butt is hurtproof, my internet connection,
though
mircea_popescu: i
thought you got all buthurt and pankake'd out on us, mr paleo man.
nubbins`: i'd wager maybe
three people in here can do a single chin-up
nubbins`: you're pulling
the ceiling down, vs lifting something heavy up
mircea_popescu: but
the point still remains, you are lifting your own weight
nubbins`: there's like 6 different
types of chinups, all work different muscle sets
nubbins`: i keep saying i won't be impressed
til she can deadlift me, but secretly... ;p
nubbins`: it's been less
than a year, she can deadlift her own body weight and has dropped ~30lbs :0
nubbins`: p just started keeping
track of calories in/out and balancing carbs/protein/fat
mircea_popescu: as far as
that goes,
there's way worse ones
than "stop eating all
that refined sugar and chill it with
the starch
too"
mircea_popescu: technically, yes, immitating
the
trapings of paleopeople
to get chimp muscular arrangements ?
that's an evolutionary choice already made for us, 500k years ago or so.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
that's
the most humorous use of "cargo cult" i ever saw,
mircea_popescu: mike_c i dun care for rice in
that one, but hey, matter of ethnocentric
taste.
mircea_popescu: srsly,
that's your idea, instead of a nice pot of beans cooked with a smoked leg over a day and a night
saifedean: also, beans, lentils, and grains are frowned upon in
the Paleo Cult. Our lord and saviour Art De Vany would smite you.
mircea_popescu: saifedean you'll generally find poor people foods are better
than "rich people" foods.
mike_c: placebocin is
the best drugz
saifedean: "what
the fuck do you do about sushi ?" You Sashimi. Really, sushi is just poor people sashimi,
to get bloated with cheap grain. Sashimi is
the real deal.
mike_c: which part of
the paleo religion demands proselytization?
saifedean: But you will become healthier, stronger, smarter and happier eating like one, rather
than grinding your brain
to find excuses for why you shouldn't!
mircea_popescu: now listen here.
the fact
that
the
turks have worn salvari for x centuries does not mean a suburban kid showing up for some school function in silken longpants isn't following a fad.
saifedean: "so
the paleo fad diet experts among us" Fad? Humans have been eating paleo from before
they were humans. Grains, seeds, and sugars are
the passing fad, it's only been 10,000 years or so, and it won't be much longer...
nubbins`: <+chetty> people really are sheeps <<< occasionally when i'm in an elevator alone and it stops
to let more people on, i face
the back of
the car
to see if others will follow suit
mircea_popescu: the finder of
the deliberate
thing however merely discovers it. someone else invented it.
mircea_popescu: this distinction is exactly
the distinction between a bug with security implications and a deliberate security hole :
they are both security holes.
the finder of
the bug both discovers and invents
that security hole.
mircea_popescu: r goat, you may now believe you discovered 'em, but
they are being produced somewhere else and were invented by someone else.
mircea_popescu: jurov: not openssh but openssL. as it is under BSD,
they're free
to do whatever wit it. << yeah openssl. not a question of under bsd or not, idea was more like :
the proof
that USG.HB was a
thing,
that was
then implemented as openssl.HB is
the fact
that looky, a Win.HB apparently exists(ed). like, if you find a goat on a field you may
think you've both discovered and invented
the goat. but if you
then later find anothe
mircea_popescu: the idea was
that
the young and stupid are readily satisfied by
the current model, on account of
their vast ignorance. but nobody else is.
mircea_popescu: the idea isn't
that jacking off is less of an intellectual activity
than learning chemistry or reading nabokov, so we pile on it.
mircea_popescu: cazalla: mircea_popescu: nobody needs
three hours of video
to rub one out <<<
tell
that
to
the people
that
take 3 hours
to find
the ideal clip for
that session << well yeah, i kinda fucked up
there didn't i.