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mircea_popescu remembers a time "the line" was, you gotta raise a woman's kids to get laid and you gotta pay a hooker to get your cock sucked.
mircea_popescu: there's never anything on their side of the line is the thing.
asciilifeform: their turd.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on their side - presumably, the turd.
mircea_popescu: what was on "their" side of the line keeping skirts below the knee ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: the great fork war is inevitable. and we know what is on their side of the line. << do tell ?
mircea_popescu: kinda how this entire trading thing goes.
mircea_popescu: that leaves a 16 btc worth of volume, which was exactly half making a gain while exactly the other half made a loss.
mircea_popescu: dub total satoshsi : 2129446090 total shares 525903
asciilifeform: but that's BingoBoingo's fault
asciilifeform admits he parsed 'b4' as half a chess tuple
asciilifeform: and has a most peculiar smell, like old turkish bubble-gum
asciilifeform: book was clearly thumbed
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
BingoBoingo: Well, that's why I prefer playing as black and starting with small pawn moves. Harder for the opponent to see in the dark.
assbot: 1 results for 'in the game of chess you must never' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=in+the+game+of+chess+you+must+never
asciilifeform: !s in the game of chess you must never
BingoBoingo: The Manul's greatest asset in combat is that through the fur, an adversary can not tell from where on the moving limbs the claws will emerge
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the great fork war is inevitable. and we know what is on their side of the line. but what is on the other? the miners' mystery forks? our gadget, that doesn't even load the blockchain?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bip-0065 << classic 'relevance farming.' the phoundation will take any excuse to add cruft to the gizmo. in their fantasy, folks will use it, and those who have resisted their turds will be forced to merge in. ☟︎
dub: i think its worth noting that for eveyone other than mp and mike it was a 50-80% loss
cazalla: well, on target
cazalla: there you go thestringpuller, i was almost right
BingoBoingo: On it's own it's a naive thing, but the conversation around it will lead to bad things as it will probably lead to hard fork talk to set the stage for the blocksize increase discussion.
cazalla: BingoBoingo: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0065.mediawiki <<< anyone care to provide thoughts on whether this is a good or bad thing?
mike_c: just in case it's helpful, i was seeing some wonkiness with mpex.ws last night too but didn't have time to debug. so the problem may be 24+ hours old.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course all of those agents were found because after seeing folate's role in cell synthesis, feeding a bunch of leukemias high dose folate was assumed to be the way. It helped the cancer so much!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and the remaining lesson, possibly, is that we are still without a general-purpose btc-powered hoster.
mircea_popescu: anyway, my takeaway is that firmness is a quality, but rigidity a sin. the boob rule : good if made out of young woman, bad if made out of bone.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one could also hypothesize again about 'married men' and who can or cannot afford to take what risk, etc.
mircea_popescu: which is why distinction is so important and processes that enact it so useful.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if there's a psychiatric lesson here, it is that resisting crud is not necessarily from cleverness, but could also be on account of being a goat herder in afghanistan and what even is all this recycled food.
mircea_popescu: what's that do for us ?
mircea_popescu: i can also understand how half the heads populating pikes around the stronghold used to be attached to people who didn't mean to.
mircea_popescu: but no, because conservative mindset depends on random derp being the king of all creation. which works about as well as you'd expect, boring in the bedroom, offensive in the forum, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can't really argue that 'no we won't even talk' was a correct answer. but i do understand how a n00b might associate bitcoin as-a-concept with the derps and sp4mz0rs.
mircea_popescu: fuck, maybe the people throwing away quarters know all about n answers you can't find on your own.
mircea_popescu: you can still take a quarter.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: moving a functioning usd-fueled business to btc - other matter. especially if you're sensitive about not wishing to fatten vultures.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fact is, i and the other jugglers - find ways to hoover up enough usd to pay the usd-eaters in.
mircea_popescu: plenty of people manage to juggle a wife and a job and an insane government and still be here. i'm not one of them, as it happens, but that's neither here nor there : to condone jeffidiocy would be more of an insult to their otherwise unguilty face than i can stomach.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i weigh less than an isp/hoster/restaurant/etc. yes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: death is a hard boundary for experiments. once dead, no 'let's try this differently'
mircea_popescu: it's ok for you but too much to ask of him ?
mircea_popescu: somehow you're of worse human quality than jeff is the argument here ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but brings back to the fact that usaschwitz is a thing. if i presently had to rely on btc for anything life-sustaining, i'd be quite dead.
mircea_popescu: the fact that the spots go on the cheetah as part of what it is saved no cheetah to date.
mircea_popescu: this is a major blindspot of the conservative mindset : rigidity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my reaction just now was 'why won't they show up and at least talk' but then realized that this may be the flip side of the medal, so to speak, of the same conservative thinking that ultimately made n.f.s. co. even interesting in the first place (they've resisted every known variety of crud)
mircea_popescu: rather than try to conjure up imaginary molehils of secure superiority to take refuge upon.
mircea_popescu: and in any effect, i most motherfucking DEFINITELY did what told, by the people who knew
mircea_popescu: my reaction was subtly but essentialy different. it was "how do you expect this to work ?"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that is still not how i read that one. it was more of a 'what is this martian trinary computer, where can i plug it in? with what sauce can i eat it'. and iirc that was your own initial reaction in '11.
mircea_popescu: "thought bitcoin is some sort of optional thing like widescreen tvs or some shit"
mircea_popescu: should be in the dsm-6, this,.
mircea_popescu: "oh i am great and speshul and what is this thing"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: physics student turned electrician (experimental physics) turned 'quant' aha.
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mircea_popescu: ;;google site:trilema.com how to fail
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform either take the hundred offer or go to war.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: seems the only option is the swap coins with someone who isn't going to put them in the waterfall :P
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tesla?
mircea_popescu: jesus, who was the electrician turned expert in physics again ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: care to draw a simple picture of what you'd do in their place ?
mircea_popescu: many smart people suffer from the what's his face mental issues
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, it's their folly.
cazalla: Apocalyptic, mircea_popescu, i will go cry in the corner and rethink my approach
mircea_popescu: so in a sense, i'm the one thing supporting this here bitcoin economy.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller actually, here's a fun notion : outside of trilema credits, pretty much everything is really just facelifted paypal.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no one was asked to care, but trying to explain here that folks are sizzling in an electric chair not necessarily of their own making, rather than simple death through individual folly
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: how do you buy things with btc that don't end up in the waterfall?
undata: asciilifeform: so sell out when you receive them via derpbase?
mircea_popescu: im sure the mango is going to want to talk to the upstream enzymes about matters too ?
mircea_popescu: color me a color that connotes caring.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this death is a collective one. or, go try to tell the nearly free speech folks how to get their upstream isp to take btc, and where to get spare disks and pizza for it, and in such a way that it doesn't immediately end up in the waterfall, etc.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is not here asking random derp some favours. no matter who the derp thinks he is.
mircea_popescu: no emotion. i am telling the sad truth just as much : adapt or die.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol. why the emotion. the article told the sad truth: 'We have nothing to spend bitcoins on...'
mircea_popescu: as a matter of policy, it will now cost these guys 10k to get any of my business, and if they ever get into the wot i'll negrate them right off.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mango happily pays. that's what digestion is all about.
mircea_popescu: but i'll make sure to charge a mango my digestion fees next i run into one.
mircea_popescu: they can't eat it, they can't leave.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the sad part is, they have a point. they can't eat it.
mircea_popescu: you must be logged in to access this area....
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, that's a much better formulation
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nice blast from teh past huh.
mircea_popescu: cazalla did you mean to say "the article is trying to push the humorous theory" instead of "concludes" ?
scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2014/11/ethereums-contract-language-implemented-on-the-bitcoin-blockchain-with-counterparty/
Apocalyptic: cazalla, re your article, "once regulators and politicians control and enable the continued development of Bitcoin", they can't be that clueless, how the hell do they hope to "control the continued development" ? by sending a gavin-bis ?
The20YearIRCloud: Looks like we (RentalStarter) are in contract for two more homes, putting our total to 12 properties / 17 units
mircea_popescu: i guess my idea reduces to "paint a brick black and pray to it" huh.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you have some notion of how to transmute that into a solution to yesterday's conundrum - i'm all ears.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what i meant was, that it offers no useful mechanisms for anything other than, well, making ordinary backups for own use.
mircea_popescu: "public access" is a myth, of the same substance as the man-month.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tarsnap isn't really a public access gizmo
mircea_popescu: how about something like tarsnap ?
mircea_popescu: but speaking of which... it does sort-of tie into yest discussion asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: novusordo i thought that was a backup solution
novusordo: after reading some of the FAQ it sounds like they follow much of the same philosophy as tarsnap.
mircea_popescu: greatly simplifies the process and saves me a bundle of moneyz this.