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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have an idea here. if this actually plays out, you would say to me: 'i will not sign X. because i grok X.a but not X.b. please split into two, and i shall sign X.a, or go on to explain to me precisely how X.b works.'
jurov: it pairs the sig to the patch by name
mircea_popescu: so basically, the correct approach here would have been for ascii to make a patch for each individual diff ?
jurov: send this file under this name as attachment
asciilifeform does not ever want to read duplicates
mircea_popescu: jurov but suppose i wish to say "reviewed X part ; Y part outside of my comprehension". can not be done ?
asciilifeform: jurov: wouldn't this result in duplicates ?
mircea_popescu: "Recommended process is to pipe the signed message text directly to mailx or similar client without ambitions." ahahaha gotta love jurov.
jurov: by using the file name
asciilifeform: in such a way that it displays under 'signed by'
asciilifeform: jurov: how would he (or anyone else) submit a detached sig meant to go with a particular patch ?
jurov: reply to the thread?
mircea_popescu: jurov specifically, is there any way for me to submit signature comments ?
asciilifeform: someone (who read it!) try signing my patch ?
asciilifeform: jurov: i got yet another copy of 'patch' in email. i presume you are turning the knobs as we speak?
mircea_popescu: jurov incidentally, gimme the short version, how do i submit to this thing ?
jurov: it's incredible how he happened to hit multiple bugs at once
jurov: also, ascii as right pentester scattered multiple dots in the filename so it got shortened
jurov: yes, without 1st sig it won't appear there
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that anything needs a 1st signature to even be sumitted is not abad design decision
asciilifeform: or does 'submitted by' always refer to original sig
jurov: yes, that will be link from "submitted by"
jurov: also, it will be hyperlinked to messages in archive
assbot: The danger of homebrew crypto pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-danger-of-homebrew-crypto/ that ?
asciilifeform: (who was it who had a piece on how supposed 'enemies of usa' are required, by the laws of god himself, to use idiotically childlike crypto? was it mircea_popescu ?)
asciilifeform: they'd need to find a way to replace ecdsa with an equivalent of caesar's cipher first.
mircea_popescu: clearly terrorist internet funbux then.
cazalla: some media claimed so but it was just an ISIS fansite requesting bitcoin donations to pay for hosting
gernika: mircea_popescu you're right - the claim is that it *could* be used by them I suppose.
mircea_popescu: other than gossip
mircea_popescu: they've not actually made that claim, have they ?
gernika: Just seems to run contrary to the usgovmedia claim that ISIS is using bitcoin.
cazalla: gernika, i can't say i'm that interested in promoting altcoins but thanks for the tip
BingoBoingo: Eh, I'll write an ISIS coin article then.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, they kicked down the door of one muslim family for having a plastic sword so yeah
mircea_popescu: lol that bad is it ?
cazalla: gernika, are you trying to get me arrested for promoting ISIS?
assbot: Isis declares new currency will be circulated in its bid to establish caliphate across Syria and Iraq - Middle East - World - The Independent
gernika: cazalla might this be related enough to bitcoin to cover?: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-declares-new-currency-will-be-circulated-in-its-bid-to-establish-caliphate-across-syria-and-iraq-9859752.html
mircea_popescu: moreso than for their parents, trying to do the same out of marx, ziggler, carnegey and whatever other fitness trainers and pop-philosophers the almanacs would print.
assbot: Beirut Cops Can’t Tell Hipsters From Jihadis -- NYMag
mircea_popescu: i have a lot of sympathy for kids trying to piece together some shard of understanding out of isaiah berlin, rory mcilroy and ronald mcdonald.
mircea_popescu: you know, back when the euro "didn't have a chance", and like the canadian dollar, traded under the usd.
mircea_popescu recalls the eu space agency early on, such a risible attempt.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to be noted that the european space agency did it. the us relevancy, like the mass of the comet, withering away by the minute.
mircea_popescu: * at that moment, undata was enlightened * lol
mircea_popescu: they're the reason nobody reads the verge.
mircea_popescu: undata not sure why anyone cares what Chris Plante & Arielle Duhaime-Ross have to say on any topic.
undata: apparently that guy's shirt is why women don't "science"
mircea_popescu: that was exactly "career socialist vs anarchist that overtook the party" moment.
assbot: I don't care if you landed a spacecraft on a comet, your shirt is sexist and ostracizing | The Verge
undata: not to derail, but I have to paste this here: http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/13/7213819/your-bowling-shirt-is-holding-back-progress
asciilifeform: where are the mythical 'actual socialists' - and what is even the point of looking for them.
mircea_popescu: broz tito did exactly the same thing.
mircea_popescu: he ran his government exactly like you'd expect a lifetime anarchist war hero to run a government.
joecool: mircea_popescu: not thinking it was socialism, I just didn't consider it anarchism
mircea_popescu: does this sound a lot like socialism to you ?
mircea_popescu: "i know better than you lot, you lot are stupid, not least of all for being a lot in the first place".
mircea_popescu: wait a second. what part of the "you folks are like blind kittens" is socialist, iyo ?
asciilifeform: 'soft' - when the entire concept of meaningful resistance becomes a hard problem
asciilifeform: 'hard' is when you end up needing to physically restrain people, actually shoot dissenters, etc.
joecool: <mircea_popescu> even stalin was (and roughly stayed) an anarchist. < would you expound on this a bit? I have never seen that viewpoint expressed
asciilifeform: see also limonov's discussion re: 'hard' vs 'soft' totalitarianisms
asciilifeform: which was the undoing.
asciilifeform: in usa, they not only had better steel and semiconductors, back in the day, they also had better chumpatronics.
mircea_popescu: this entire sign things stuff we do is exactly antisocialist.
chetty: but those are all made up
mircea_popescu: you personally ? well no, that's not teh socialist way.
mircea_popescu: the soviets had no equivalent input in the workings of pravda.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but at least the usian populace gets to pick which butt to be pictured bare.
asciilifeform: usa just solved the 'problem' of popular opinion in a rather different way.
mircea_popescu: the chinese pretend themselves communists, but really... the us is more advanced on the socialist path than they are.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform merely consider the fact that the politbureau did not customarily seek to include the general opinion of the populace. not exactly socialism, this, is it ?
mircea_popescu: the purpose of trees, to hear the bromeliaceae tell it, is to one day support one! and in fact all life on earth evolves towards that peak of creation, a parasite plant of little notice.
mircea_popescu: it's funny, this particular bromilliad, sometimes catches root on a tree, then proceds to derp all about how you know, the purpose of the tree is it!
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the us was quite a different beast before being coopted by the socialists to.
mircea_popescu: before being coopted by the socialists, the russian revolution was pure anarchism.
BingoBoingo: To think that 100 years ago anarchist aggression started a conflict among the euroarchists
undata: "Those guys over there are organizing! Someone should stop them! But how?"
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that the only possible point to even having anarchy in the first place is to render the sorts of idiots that'd fall for it.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i;ll tell you how that went. dudes for some reason perceive the need to "sell" it, and since it's obvious that you can't sell something to someone that the someone;d perceive as a "worse" alternative, then necessarily it must be made so that anarchy is not more painful to the average derp than you know, the 1980s in the us.
BingoBoingo wonders what shitgnome introduced "non-aggression" into ananrchy. With the persistence of the *archy it would seem that aggression would be necessary in one's own defense.
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RagnarDanneskjol: did we just miss a golden opportunity to have miss T. break this abstinence streak?
BingoBoingo: undata: Of course *archy is mean. Just avoid the robokleptarchy
mircea_popescu: weird shit like that.
mircea_popescu: if i recall there was a lengthy thread of naked women in star wars paraphenalia
undata: BingoBoingo: but... read this blog post about how mean it is
BingoBoingo: There's always going to be a *archy
BingoBoingo: Yeah, the *archists would reintroduce aggression
mircea_popescu: what, the "i have no balls" tag was taken ?
mircea_popescu: oh, that.
undata: mircea_popescu: a religious notion that anarchists suppose would bring about peace on earth and good will towards men
JuliaTourianski: i may break my abstinence tonight if this website still exists
mircea_popescu: so what's this nap ?
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nap | nap. 3 hours of sleep or less. Zerostar took a nap from 2pm to 5pm. by GheTTo January 08, ... My roommate just left for class, so I think I'm going to take a nap.
mircea_popescu: jurov ahahaha o god help us. that is like a canonical example of evil.
berndj: mircea_popescu, presumably on a road, the owner of the road might require you to sign a contract that forbids beating your kids
assbot: Issue 7143: get_payload(decode=True) eats last newline in base64 encoded payload - Python tracker