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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not the first. i vaguely recall '1 flak jacket for 3 men' in the last one
mircea_popescu: the coming iraq campaign will be the first one the us soldiers will not have enough boots and shit. maybe best enlist for something else.
assbot: So much for speculation about no more 10-yr deals. Heyman says MIA taking w/Stanton about a 12-yr, $300 mil deal. How will they afford it?
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mircea_popescu: anyway, if anyone has a direct interest in the welfare of the poor grunts involved, like loved ones or w/e :
asciilifeform: those who order the churn, have no concept that there will not be replacement ordered.
mircea_popescu: to make it perfectly clear : any sunk cruiser reduces the total count of cruisers the us will ever have by 1.
mircea_popescu: it's impractical, 2000s us could borrow the 50trn they used. 2015s us can not.
mircea_popescu: undata the funny part is, the us got so fucking raped in iraq it's hard to describe. now they want to go for round two ?
undata: ben_vulpes: the classic "just the tip" maneuver
mircea_popescu: prolly the gaw dude himself.
undata: ben_vulpes: this us heading back in with marines
cazalla: mircea_popescu, prolly a fake name, i've searched and searched and there is nothing on this guy
assbot: Eric Frein to face terrorism charges over fatal Pennsylvania police ambush | US news | The Guardian
ben_vulpes: more shellshock in the populace
undata: I guess Iraq is the ditch we want to die in
assbot: US military considers sending combat troops to battle Isis forces in Iraq | US news | The Guardian
asciilifeform: as a 'zoologist' of these, can't help but notice the extraordinarily-obvious specimen in the wild.
mircea_popescu: anyway, nothing remarkable there. it's to be used like any other thing.
assbot: Winston Churchill's 'bid to nuke Russia' to win Cold War uncovered | Daily Mail Online
nubbins`: so maybe deedbot shouldn't be stripping the \n at eof
nubbins`: you dirty a line, you provide a clean one to the next guy
nubbins`: well i can see what they mean
mircea_popescu: nubbins` im pretty sure that's what it is.
undata: everyone in that thread is just saying that they're "supposed to"
nubbins`: i assumed it was so if you spat the file out, the bash prompt would be on a new line
nubbins`: mildly amusing that this is the most difficult part of all this stuff, in the meantime
nubbins`: why in the fuck do text editors add it in the first place?
mircea_popescu: maybe darcs should strip the trailing \n then ?
nubbins`: truthfully i wonder if deedbot shouldn't be stripping the trailing \n
mircea_popescu: prototype works, more stuff to be added.
ben_vulpes: so does the patchpusher work or not?
nubbins`: how does one save a text file that doesn't end in \n?
nubbins`: jurov true. upon reopening the file it's there
mircea_popescu: not unless the actual women open up.
asciilifeform can only speak for the programming
jurov: nubbins`: but they usually show it (you can move to the new line)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also in the permanent deformations of the respective organs.
nubbins`: jurov fwiw some (most?) text editors append a \n at the end of text files
nubbins`: but try as i may, some parts of my old brain just won't reformat
nubbins`: 5 years in the trenches, baby
jurov: lol, so upgrade to py 2.7 then
nubbins`: but it's not necessary to b64 anything
nubbins`: i grab the base64 deed via json when verifying
assbot: Logged on 03-11-2014 17:23:14; nubbins`: tool for predicting deed ID of clearsigned file: http://pastebin.com/Ls76h1kd
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ben_vulpes: wow did you assholes poop out 1600 lines today?
jurov: nubbins` after the signature?
nubbins`: <jurov> EATS THE TRAILING NEWLINE <<< fwiw deeds eats the trailing \n
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: misprint. they fired the monkey.
BingoBoingo: Watch our for the monkeys with Derpes B
mircea_popescu: as in, "kissing Arielle Duhaime-Ross will give you herpes, but reading her inanity in the verge will give you derpes"
mircea_popescu: there could be a new disease, the derpes...
nubbins`: i will permit it to pass over me and through me
mircea_popescu: lol if this cult thing catches on we can even have derpfessions. "have you derped my son ?"
nubbins`: derping is the little stupidity that leads to total insolvency
nubbins`: i must not derp. derping is the mind-killer.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd say this is progressing nicely.
jurov: apparently it actually does with uuencode..okay another todo
jurov: i suggested it for text.. but yes it's dumb
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mircea_popescu: well if mailx doesn'tdo attachments then why do you suggest people use it to mail you attachments lol.
asciilifeform: jurov: this is not a working example
jurov: oh that, mailx does not handle attachments
mircea_popescu: jurov this handles the attachment scheme you wish to use ?
mircea_popescu: i know this from the mpex faq days.
mircea_popescu: jurov sample code for mailx in the help file would help a great deal.
asciilifeform: in that, for example, all of the patches submitted so far will break if one is removed from the chain.
asciilifeform: also i don't remember if i reminded anyone of this, but unix 'patch' utility is rather braindead.
mircea_popescu: as to the meaning ?
asciilifeform: so what will be the convention for submitting 'patch note with sig' ?
mircea_popescu: seems to me this'd resolve all outstanding problems.
mircea_popescu: and similarly, signatures get a "sig notes" following them, like signed by 01ABFFC7(n) 02ABFFC7(n) etc
asciilifeform: in that respect, all of the patches i (and the 2 other fellows) offered so far, are monolithic.
mircea_popescu: jurov seems the site needs the extension of a "patch notes" clickable field ?
asciilifeform: rather than 'one line of code' (try reading the result!) or somesuch.
asciilifeform: as in, 'and here we remove the nuclear detonator'
asciilifeform: when i originally suggested 'one change', it was a semantic thing
mircea_popescu: what should "one" mean in this fortran ?
mircea_popescu: shit the hard questions you ask.
jurov: well, the https one is pretty compact
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do me the courtesy and resubmit as mono patches and then the new ones can win the longer sigchain race with the original one ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i mean specifically about patches to foss.
mircea_popescu: jurov im not even sure it should be there.
jurov: maybe you want to rate the patch? lol
mircea_popescu: so in that sense, great progress.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you do appreciate the following point : up until and in any case unless one actually had to put his own signature, these matters never have been seriously considered by asnyone.
jurov: otherwise i hve no idea how to put such semantic metainfo in the db
asciilifeform: my question was, that day, 'sign under what'
jurov: for thi there's the mailman archive
asciilifeform: this was actually a point i brought up when mircea_popescu said 'one day you shall earn bread by signing code' or something to that effect
mircea_popescu: should this be verboten, and all or nothing commitment upon signer ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, even if they are all mononuclear, there's still semantic value to be had. suppose i wish to say "have read and understood this to do what it says ; have not tested it in fact".
asciilifeform: to be clear, my suggestion concerned how to write patches.
mircea_popescu: so what happened to the suggestion ?
mircea_popescu: so for this reason, all patches must be mononuclear ?
asciilifeform: eventually all signatures belong to the dead.
mircea_popescu: and what of the 500 orher dead people that signed his ?
asciilifeform: X.b will sit, as an orphan, inside a comment thread, until the fateful day that someone picks it up, and signs it, and convinces others to.
mircea_popescu: well no, because then all the history is lost.