log☇︎
584000+ entries in 0.327s
mircea_popescu: the major point about low taxes is that it makes the pot of the public treasury too small to hold the estimation of the conman
decimation: real estate will always be an asset - but the bezzle freshly printing to fund it won't
BingoBoingo: decimation: I don't think so. Nothing is more fashionable than location.
decimation: my point being, does bitcoin represent a 'threat' to this arrangement?
decimation: so this guy profits... and the 'taxpayer' picks up the $$bn bill for freddie mac and implicit bank guarantees
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah seems to be revving up nicely.
mircea_popescu: decimation that's pretty meta...
BingoBoingo: Also... Qntra's in the top quarter million nao
decimation: I had a conversation today about some guy who knew a guy who bought a house for $200k in california in 2002 and sold for $700k in 2006
assbot: Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast
BingoBoingo: https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << At this point in qntra's age I'm not disliking the sawtooth pattern.
mircea_popescu: was on qntra earlier, which is the only reason she's notable.
decimation: mircea_popescu: you mean that julia character
mircea_popescu: literally, the crisis will go around romania.
mircea_popescu: noably, romania's president announced in 2009 that "criza financiara va ocoli romania"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile they can all hold hands with the canada chick and chant how "bitcoin is not coming and not posing a risk"
BingoBoingo: Indeed, but also a factor that will provide the catalyst for the acceptance of Venetian Bitcoind
mircea_popescu: for all these idiots to fall back on once the shit hits the fan.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo anyway, all the more reasons to have a proper, functional implementation of the canonical bitcoin code
decimation: asciilifeform: supposedly that socket wrench that destroyed the missile in the silo in arkansas was 'ilegal'
BingoBoingo: I could seriously imagine the chinese miners being coerced to oppose a USGaving blocksize increase simply because it hurts the payment processors. Bezelzebub bless the triad of mutual enemies working together for our success!
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
asciilifeform: al said. This was one of many maintenance problems that had “been around so long that no one reported them anymore.”'
asciilifeform: '...in one case, the discovery that the crews that maintain the nation’s 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles had only a single wrench that could attach the nuclear warheads. “They started FedExing the one tool” to three bases spread across the country, one official familiar with the contents of the reports said Thursday. No one had checked in years “to see if new tools were being made,” the offici
mircea_popescu: but hey, who's to argue with the politico-experts, right ?
decimation: I would bet money on that too
mircea_popescu: "Seriously, I bet the ‘model’ is some kind of gunky spreadsheet. Or something little better, anyway. A mishmash of data being shoved together to reach predetermined conclusions, with tons of ad hoc assumptions. " << sounds like exactly dub's brew :D
decimation: yeah the author doesn't go far enough
mircea_popescu: but the actual professionals should hang, by their own guts.
BingoBoingo: Because of course Vessenes' foundation wants bigger blocks when its only surviving members that pay it need bigger blocks
mircea_popescu: "It all traces back to the fact that the academy did not police itself properly. They gave, or through their inaction/laziness allowed to get, this guy and his (retarded) output the mantle of ‘expertise’. If the bad PR spilling off of him now redounds back onto other academicians in his peer group I understand that will be unfair in some cases but they have only themselves to blame."
assbot: Atruk comments on Peter Todd's CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY Means Bitcoin Escrow, Refunds and a Fork
BingoBoingo: Well, https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2i6pz0/peter_todds_checklocktimeverify_means_bitcoin/cm0liy8 seems not to be popular with the redditards, but on blocksizefork Bitpay has an incentive to choose the shitgnome side and face punishment
mircea_popescu: peppering this sort of nonsense in the code is a prime way to ensure the rough equivalent of "atomic weapons" for future negotiations.
mircea_popescu: tomorrow large miner joins, doesn't implement it, they hardfork all they want, chainwarz.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo only workls for as long as they actually do.
assbot: “I’d rather have this bill than not”, dictated the Professor | RWCG
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Actual soft for yes, but "if all the miners accept" softfork is a hardfork << "all miners accept" means what ?
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps the most braindamaged nonsense i read today.
decimation: They want to bake it into the protocol? That's fuckin nuts
mircea_popescu: HECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY can be used to create outputs that are provably spendable by anyone (thus to mining fees assuming miners behave optimally and rationally) but only at a time sufficiently far into the future that large miners profitably can't sell the sacrifices at a discount.
mircea_popescu: Proving the sacrifice of some limited resource is a common technique in a variety of cryptographic protocols. Proving sacrifices of coins to mining fees has been proposed as a universal public good to which the sacrifice could be directed, rather than simply destroying the coins. However doing so is non-trivial, and even the best existing technqiue - announce-commit sacrifices - could encourage mining centralization. C
mircea_popescu: Proving sacrifice to miners' fees
decimation: oh wait, I thought the delays that the scammer was writing about were simply 'private delays' on the part of the machine
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:04:36; *: asciilifeform admits that he suspects bip64 of being a plot to create usg-like bonds in btc. folks will be asked to trace X proper btc for X+epsilon 'locked' ones that are to land back in their pocket 'in the future', should they live long enough, but are actually recovable 'because this is how the world works'
asciilifeform: for those who missed, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920112 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Actual soft for yes, but "if all the miners accept" softfork is a hardfork
decimation: wait, they decide protocol details on twitter now?
mircea_popescu: so a softfork does not in fact do anything, the dblspending party can just mine their own dblspend and that's that.
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2014/11/bip-65-revisiting-nlocktime/ << the problem with this is that if a miner doesn't implement the new protocol, and mines a block in spite of the supposed nlocktime lock, that block is well spent.
asciilifeform: used to be called, 'cachiering'
decimation: although to be precise, the way the military 'fires' officers is more of a 'pocket veto' - if you fail to make the cut for promotion (at higher grades) you are automatically discharged
assbot: Log In - The New York Times
decimation: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/us/cuts-in-military-mean-job-losses-for-career-staff.html?_r=0 << usg is broke, decides to 'fire' army officers rather than cut back food stamps
asciilifeform: 'is it rape if the check bounced?'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think one can genuinely be both simultaenously in the us atm.
mircea_popescu: In one instance, one of Rubin's relatives claimed weekly income of $200 to get Medicaid and food stamps while claiming a net worth of $10 million to banks in order to get $7 million in loans.
mircea_popescu: how is this an accusation ?
assbot: NY Family Accused of Taking Out $20 Million in Mortgages While Collecting Food Stamps | NBC New York
BingoBoingo: "You can't arrest me. I'm the Cake Boss" http://4.nbcny.com/SGgcUl1
mircea_popescu: "So no, I'm not required to be able to lift objects weighing up to fifty pounds. I traded that for the opportunity to trim Satan's pubic hair while he dines out of my open skull so a few bits of the internet will continue to work for a few more days."
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, what ever happened to aurora coin ? has it passed ethereum yet ?
PeterL: perhaps not the best name to drop as WoT cred?
mircea_popescu: PeterL from bitdaytrade to whatever you want.
PeterL: mrjr:thestringpuller: i'll work on getting my creds in order :) meni rosenfeld is one of our investors, and our cto Shaul Kfir was a reviewer for the sidechain paper. << wasn't Meni Rosenfeld connected with a GLBSE scam?
mircea_popescu: will be funny reference in teh future.
decimation: someone ported to 'saturn' assembly
decimation: but in that case it wouldn't be an arbitrary delay enforced by a cron job for no reason
decimation: I could see some sense in a 'delay' in the case that an actual human examines the transactions before they are released
asciilifeform: ^ that one.
assbot: Porting Doom to Flash - Interview with Mike Welsh — Peter Elst
asciilifeform: somebody even got 'doom' to build.
asciilifeform: other than 'alchemy'
mircea_popescu: adobe's shit is written in c, nobody can be bothered to compule it
mircea_popescu: me too.
asciilifeform actually uses a (very threadbare) 'wordpress'
mircea_popescu: then ben_vulpes is here going "hmm, where the fuck is this nonsense hardcoded in"
mircea_popescu: now those people mostly use wordpress, with PLUGINS
mircea_popescu: was famous before mullenderp raped poetry a new hole, because you could tell from all the <hea<he</head>ad>>> mess that it had been used.
asciilifeform: aha then likely.
asciilifeform: something which the archetypical 'indian replacement programmer' occupies himself with.
asciilifeform: aha no. he was speaking of 'glue code' in the sense of gluing heavy 'prefab' swaths together
mircea_popescu: basically i got the idea from reading the piece that he means code that implements the "cut problem into parts, implement parts, glue parts together" approach
asciilifeform: where gigantic swaths of (hesitate to even call it a) program - get 'written for you'
asciilifeform: menu-lookup writing of glue code << refers to systems like the (1990s? no idea if still fits this description) 'visual basic' and the like.
xanthyos: ok i may be wasting my time but i'm going to try to get that guy thomas_d into the wot again tonight
nubbins`: i think if the current smartest man can't say for sure, then yes
mircea_popescu: for i x to y output + Fizz if i|3 output + Buzz if i|5 output + i if output is empty.
mircea_popescu: "Write a program that prints the numbers from 1 to 100. But for multiples of three print “Fizz” instead of the number and for the multiples of five print “Buzz”. For numbers which are multiples of both three and five print “FizzBuzz”.
mircea_popescu: as it just so happens, that theory is about to get tested.
nubbins`: that 12yo must have grown up to be the smartest man alive
mircea_popescu: imagine this, a 12 yo could figure out the serial port interface in ms-dos, without even knowing wtf a port or an interface are.
nubbins`: openbazaar is going to change thzzzzzzz
mircea_popescu: then i plugged a led into the serial port and had it blink when i lasered too, and this i think was the pinnacle of achievement.
mircea_popescu: i think in the end i got it, and so i could fire as much as i wanted, no concern for bs "laser heating"
mircea_popescu: i loved deathtrack, and i spent a while finetuning the sound implementation of basic to make the same laser sound.
nubbins`: the day i realized i could just type spcinvad instead of spcinvad.exe!!
mircea_popescu: "Is that a real program or is that something somebody wrote?" << ah yea, now this makes sense. i had the exact same notion, for exactly the same reason. a "real program" was something that didn't need to use the z80 basic interpreter, wasn't editable for this reason, and this immutability was cool. then on the msdos system, .exe binaries exactly mapped on this same structure of cool.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can you summarily introduce "menu-lookup" writing of glue code for the innocent ?
nubbins`: digging in your heels is the only way