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mike_c: bad busy. Time is sucked away on things that aren't worth it.
trinque: wasn't the majority of them, but some felt that way
trinque: had 'nam vets and such talking about how they couldn't come back from war mentally because they liked war so much
ag3nt_zer0: I wasn't in the mood the first few times I started it, so I stopped... finally last night had the receptivity and it hit pretty good...
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: a text? don't understand
mircea_popescu: (that reason being, obviously, that they can't get to play their inept advertising with it)
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=34&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCoQtwIwAzge&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com%2F58004844&ei=pLyeVcuAEcm2ogSx-5rgBg&usg=AFQjCNH_j-TsYTnEvRDHiEZH3WbYMAwywg&sig2=JNwKq1S17c8cSu5k9ZR6sA&bvm=bv.96952980,d.cGU
asciilifeform recalls the ordeal of convincing mircea_popescu that al schwartz isn't a 'timecube'
asciilifeform: it wasn't reddit
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah DS3231 is the older version of the same chip that doesn't have any onboard sram
asciilifeform: clearly ~somebody~ isn't eager to use ntp for everything.
asciilifeform: haven't seen, no
asciilifeform: didn't see alive, no. but who hasn't seen photos.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y'know, all kinds of folks spent whole lives 'lala i can't hear you' to cantor's diagonal.
mircea_popescu: i don't readily see it.
asciilifeform: (being able to prove that you can't do better runtime than particular algo, say)
funkenstein_: it's not a question of "don't worry" .. actually, we should be worried
mircea_popescu: 't woprry honey, they're stupid"
mircea_popescu: they don't understand that if you sell for yourself, and not to put in a desktop, you have diff engineering constraints
asciilifeform: and it isn't like ten dies would take up unpalatable floor space
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're just going through the motions. they don't really know what they're doing, nobodyu sat dowqn and thought things through.
mircea_popescu: it isn't the worst play, but hard to get the notion through.
mircea_popescu: of course, sold != deployed, but the error isn't great.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as they both exist, they both exist. inasmuch as the one you're good at doesn't exist, you're basically wanking.
mircea_popescu: in any case, weren't you bravely accusing ME of viewing things as scalars ?
asciilifeform: decimation: and can't do this without a proggy that opens sockets ?
mircea_popescu: he doesn't want to set anything
decimation: you set rtc, usg doesn't set your clock?
mircea_popescu: i don't expect technologee changed these much since the 90s
decimation: but as you can see it isn't cheap, the chip is about $9 in single quantity and about $4 in units of 1000
decimation: likely, the cr1203 battery wouldn't last that log
asciilifeform: of course it won't mount
mircea_popescu: guess that wasn't apparent.
asciilifeform: it isn't a gentoo-specific thing
mircea_popescu: that way, you won't need "security patches" in the first place.
mircea_popescu: "we will stop deliberately adding holes to these versions aftyer this date, and you are please asked to upgrade because we won't be sending patches a quarter afterwards, either"
mircea_popescu: people don't know. "openssl" right ?
asciilifeform: lobbes: we don't even have a b-a restaurant yet.
asciilifeform: decimation: i can't comment on what's in the other '641a's.
asciilifeform: naturally, you don't
asciilifeform: it won't happen every day, naturally. just when 'national s333k000r1ty' requires a stinkbomb dropped on the network - to keep a certain tx from getting relayed, say
jurov: or make buth m$/google move the servers to different IPs? no way that wouldn't get noticed, actually would be useful signal for us
funkenstein_ recalls being woken "can't sleep here" on various travels
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Nah, they don't want hippies, chase away merely warm bodies
Vexual: so if we have sealevel sattelites that don't move...
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 03:21:46; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194169 << i didn't misunderstand it. i simply do not credit it at all, just like i don't credit that an object could be arbitrarily pink but shapeless.
asciilifeform: 'no there isn't'
mircea_popescu: and "patria doesn't give blowjobs" bs
mircea_popescu: that way you won't lose wars with fucking peri
asciilifeform: quite often 'creditcard machine ain't working today. but we dusted off this carbon paper and press...'
mircea_popescu: decimation: what usg agency would perform this work domestically? asciilifeform:at&t. << top kek
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as i said, this wasn't to my mind related to the p2p relay thing
decimation: "Step one: configure an accurate ntp server. if you don't know how to check the time, ask your parents"
asciilifeform: i must confess that i'm not 100% clear on the primary mission. but did have the distinct impression that it involves making use of net jacks that don't have literate and attentive humans attached to them
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194235 << i really don't think that's the primary mission for it ☝︎
asciilifeform: decimation: vibrations of atom don't come with indices. nor do sunrises.
asciilifeform: we haven't invented the mechanism !
mircea_popescu: decimation if this facetious "precision" were the point, it wouldn't be t here and t+1 hour a km away.
mircea_popescu: decimation there is no "sun does" immediately. sun doesn't. what there is, is, "here's what i say the sun does".
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194169 << i didn't misunderstand it. i simply do not credit it at all, just like i don't credit that an object could be arbitrarily pink but shapeless. ☝︎☟︎
mod6: I don't see any attempt to reorg... but i'm gonna increase the db locks * 2 and see if that changes anything.
funkenstein_: reminds me, showed girl b-a channel yesterday. respones, wow cool.. people chat online who aren't just trying to get laid?
Vexual: no, i din't even yell out
phf: that specific breed of bears is tame. mostly you spook them and they run away, or you stay and wait for them to sniff and leave. after a few encounters like that the idea of macing a bear from close range doesn't seem particularly disconcerting
mircea_popescu: an' for that matter the "basis" doesn't work like you imagine it does.
asciilifeform: it isn't even that su didn't know how to make loudspeakers
phf: The20YearIRCloud: this was on denali highway which is a kind of a wind tunnel nearby from a glacier. most of it is freezing all the way till mid summer (though i don't know, i spent a winter there)
The20YearIRCloud: I know on the farm it wasn't really ever quiet, there was always something
The20YearIRCloud: I don't like that, but i REALLY don't like not being able to stand on the back porch and not see anything
The20YearIRCloud: I can't wait to go back to a farm setting
asciilifeform: we didn't have those, either
Vexual: opposition leader is explaining to the royal commission here on tv, how to build roads that don't need fixing all the time
The20YearIRCloud: still works somewhat well, but parking on it certainly hasn't helped things
asciilifeform: doesn't mean that i dislike those places, or their inhabitants
asciilifeform: kentucky, or argentina, etc, literally don't need me in particular for anything but 'weight in pork'
BingoBoingo: decimation: Too be fair Kentucky isn't "flat" enough for intentive Monsanto'ing
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 23:39:06; mircea_popescu: http://polymatharchives.blogspot.in/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html << this thing is such bs. if the intelligent need to whine on an obscure blog, and for "society" to GIVE THEM shit they're about as intelligent as a mensa chapter. which isn't all that flattering.
asciilifeform: that gun hasn't publicly fired yet.
asciilifeform: based on existing nonsense coming out of the we-don't-know-how-to-break-rsa-yet-agency
asciilifeform: can't know. only conjecture.
decimation: how would you know that, if you don't know the hitlist
decimation: neither do I. but assuming the pogo isn't a complete bust, someone's gonna have to evaluate the risk
asciilifeform: but i don't get to say 'it's low on the list, let's all sleep'
decimation: they ain't gonna do it for free
asciilifeform: at&t.
decimation: I would agree that if the pogo needs to be launched into space, it wouldn't be such a bad thing if it knew where it was on the internet topology, especially relative to other bitcoin nodes
decimation: so, don't cross backbones
asciilifeform: they don't work for crapcast either
asciilifeform: won't affect anything else.
decimation: don't need second resolution
asciilifeform: but we don't have a mechanism of syncing n-bit counters with second resolution across a planet that ~doesn't~ operate at hitler's pleasure.
decimation: usg didn't make this policy any more than england did
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you won't know that you have segmented into a parallel universe
shinohai: T_T
asciilifeform: right now i don't know how to help the pogo problem.
asciilifeform: i possibly have a scheme for this. but it won't help pogo, because this is no longer bitcoin
decimation: yeah but these aren't launching into space
decimation: and we don't need serious accuracy
decimation: I guess I just can't see 'we need to sun' to be a huge limitation on any human endeavour
asciilifeform: and i don't expect everyone to grasp it immediately