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BingoBoingo: Seriously though you feed the homeless in someone else's city so they all go there. Pied Piper and shit.
nubbins`: LOOK AT ME I'M DONATING TO SEAN'S OUTPOST
nubbins`: i never got the "feed the homeless in this guy's city instead of in your own city" thing
assbot: SeansOutpost comments on An open letter to Jason King of Sean's Outpost
nubbins`: <mircea_popescu> <undata> if I were russia, I'd wait for the US to go balls deep into the middle east again, and then I'd grab some of the north pole's oil, <<< obviously, you're not russia. <<< dat unfamilairity with arctic sovereignty claims
mircea_popescu: and with that, it is time for ass!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Probably? Where to fix?
Vexual: the sd one is cool, i dont undertand the other thing
punkman: RagnarDanneskjol: similar thingie https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11395
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 07:32:47; asciilifeform: ultimately, there is no factory that churns out pilot plants
Adlai: you wouldn't say that militaries are still churning out pilot plants, but the automation/control balance of piloting itself has shifted?
RagnarDanneskjol: they have some lame and some rather novel ideas in there
cazalla: RagnarDanneskjol, meh not promoting something that thinks "When a user wants to create an address, the user provides her identity to an IVS. The IVS checks that the provided identity is the identity of a real person who can be located and be accountable if illegal activity is detected, similar to existing Bitcoin payment systems such as Coinbase." is a good idea
mircea_popescu: nevertheless academia would STILL be fundamentally broken to the point of complete dysfunction.
mircea_popescu: this is actually the fundamental problem with western academia. the self-licking icecreamcones problem is just a convenient frosting over this, but the point remains that even should that matter be solved, as it trivially would be solved - by say a stalin, which is always cheap
mircea_popescu: "This muddle finally hurts those following in the researcher's path. Long after he has his Ph.D. or his tenure, inquiring students will be put off by the document he has left behind. He seems to have solved everything already, so the report says, yet there is no tangible evidence of it besides the report itself."
fivezerotwo: thanks thestringpuller
asciilifeform wanders off to consider this.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ah no, bounty of teh internets.
RagnarDanneskjol: how's that?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: From the gif where it did the salt licking
RagnarDanneskjol: went through several versions
punkman: RagnarDanneskjol: oh deedbot1.0 tried to use electrum?
asciilifeform: perhaps i dreamed all of this.
RagnarDanneskjol: punkman i think eventually you're gonna ahve to ditch electrum and run a daemon - these issues are somewhat known and why deedbot 1.0 replaced it w/ api
asciilifeform: chicom firm cornered the market, the story went, to the point of total monopoly - then went bust
asciilifeform: re: top hats: i vaguely recall that the planet lost the capacity to make toothpicks for a few months at some point in '09 (?)
empyex: thestringpuller: Next conference starts in 5 months and 2 days. Estimated cost today: 3.31292039 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )
mircea_popescu: nah, more like a retarded athlete who, after a majorly incredible game where his team won very closely or lost very closely is like
punkman: so electrum is blocking forever when I try to send a tx, then the tx sending thread gets stuck
asciilifeform: like a death certificate that reads 'stopped breathing'
mircea_popescu: in the positive sense of that term.
decimation: but the idea of 'mass production software' is nonsensical
decimation: one can imagine the software craftsman being aided by tools (likely of his own making)
asciilifeform: decimation: except that none of this conceptually even applies to a computer program.
decimation: it seems to come down to a question of economics, it's generally cheaper to pay a master craftsman to labor over one item, but if one is building thousands it is worth the start-up cost of the robots
punkman: speaking of shitty code, thing's stuck again
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imagine if, e.g., the 'golden gate' bridge had been built by a retarded child. out of match sticks.
mircea_popescu: the fact that bitcoin .5.3 is full of spot welds is not a quality.
mircea_popescu: whosoever programs the robots doesn't have to do so with chewing gum however.
asciilifeform: much of what makes civilization tick, is not available off the shelf, and the entire notion is nonsensical.
decimation: someone has to program the robots after all
decimation: there's a point there
asciilifeform: craftsmanship all the way down, after a certain point.
mircea_popescu: used to. nowadays it's pretty rare.
asciilifeform: ultimately, there is no factory that churns out pilot plants ☟︎
asciilifeform: decimation: this is not actually uncommon at the 'what is the factory made of' level in industry.
mircea_popescu: doesn't mean the machines still exist.
mircea_popescu: i still know how to make a felt hat
decimation: asciilifeform: there's a good example of the 'art v. science' re: moon program here: http://eb-misfit.blogspot.com/2013/10/relighting-saturn-vs-f-1-rocket-engine.html?showComment=1381683061332#c1607749688683256926 "There were single welds on the engine that took all day to weld, by hand, and there were thousands of such welds. The engineers working on the new F1 copy say that theirs has less than 1/10th the parts of the original F1
mircea_popescu: knowledge != technology.
asciilifeform: but i can sorta see the point he was trying to make.
asciilifeform: and i can hardly imagine a modern big-game hunter having any serious troubles with a mastodon.
asciilifeform: bad example, not because of greybeards, but because of demented archaeologists like yours truly
asciilifeform: e often than you might think. ... ... Space enthusiasts say, 'If we can put a man on the moon, why can't we put a man on the moon?' "The answer, Simberg explains, is that we can't "because most of the people who did it are in their dotage or dead, and a lot of it was more art than science."'
asciilifeform: 'Knowledge can be lost. Sometimes this is perfectly reasonable: No one knows how to kill and skin a mastodon anymore, for obvious reasons. And cultures frequently lose knowledge as they evolve past it--you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who could write a computer program on punch-cards today. But there is something worrisome about misplacing knowledge that is only a generation or two old. And this happens mor
mircea_popescu: we need to bully these autistic savants a whole of a lot more, can't be letting the libtards having all the fun.
mircea_popescu: basically matt taylor is personally responsible for a few violent gangrrapes now.
mircea_popescu: had he just pointed and laughed at the "offended" idiots we could have just moved on.
mircea_popescu: see, it's imbeciles like this that cause trouble. now the point will have to be carved out of some innocent women's skin that nobody gives a shit.
decimation: what about the homburg hat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homburg_%28hat%29
gribble: FOGBANK - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOGBANK>; Fog Bank: Capitola's Funnest Bar & Grille: <http://www.the-fogbank.com/>; Jeffrey Lewis • FOGBANK: <http://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/1814/fogbank>
cazalla: something to do with looms is, that i know
asciilifeform: some of us here, imho, shall live to see the felt brought back.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, sounds familiar, this story on trilema?
asciilifeform: aha like the u.s. hbomb tamper foam.
decimation: asciilifeform: of course stalin's agents were all over the us bomb as it was being made
mircea_popescu: to me this is much worse news than the extinction of whatever stupid fish or crap
mircea_popescu: the world has physically lost the capacity to produce top hats.
mircea_popescu: cazalla i know specifically what im talking about, because the last looms capable of making the required felt were destroyed a decade ago as part of a family feud.
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2014 18:26:21; gribble: THE FEELING OF POWER by Isaac Asimov Worlds of Science ...: <http://www.math.umn.edu/~rusin018/1271_Fall_2006/extra_1.pdf>; The Feeling of Power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feeling_of_Power>; MathFiction: The Feeling of Power (Isaac Asimov) - Alex Kasman: <http://kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHFICT/mfview.php?callnumber=mf4>
cazalla: mircea_popescu: certainly not a top hat. <<< maybe akubra? nfi on top hats but they have a solid rep
asciilifeform: state that can't keep a secret << incidentally, notice that no complete 'dump' for ru nuke of whatever variety ever hit the net.
mircea_popescu: state that can't build a pot is one thing. state that can't keep a secret however, deserves to die.
asciilifeform: then they went on to the 'old classic' recipe, and made sure to run moar winblows.
TheNewDeal: thats to be determined
asciilifeform: actually iran tried to build laser separator. the men involved - died. and not of industrial accidents.
mircea_popescu: decimation the original bombs were'nt that classy.
decimation: sorting out u235 from the other neutron spewing isotopes isn't trivial
asciilifeform: above is more or less the recipe
asciilifeform: 1/10000th the cost of conventional gas centrifuge.
mircea_popescu: just making the general point.
mircea_popescu: im not intending to lay out an actualrecipe here
thestringpuller: Adlai: i don't think it was tagged as news
mircea_popescu: the fact that the iranians don't manage just shows how fucktarded htey are. it's by now a one man job.
mircea_popescu: i can centrifuge my own uranium, there's plenty of places where it's directly exploitable etc.
asciilifeform: at any rate, the operative boojum wouldn't be the demolition of a particular plot of real estate.
mircea_popescu: the sad truth of the matter is that with the current state of manufacturing, i could build my own nuke. wouldn't even take a decade.
decimation: although thorium is a fissile material
mircea_popescu: well, he didn't work for the full 20 years either.
mircea_popescu: recall the case of the kid who built his own nuke
asciilifeform: right now it takes more than one man, however enthusiastic, working in his basement for twenty years, to level a city.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this curren state will collapse regardless. not a technical, but a policital problem. it just sucks.
mircea_popescu: dub no, the fat female kim. champagne assgirl.
asciilifeform: what if herr frein spent his life contemplating how to rewire his fusor
mircea_popescu: otherwise, see the experiences of the various members of the tsar's fambly with artisanal bombs
mircea_popescu: it is always that nobody can be bothered.
mircea_popescu: well, let's ut it this way : the reason the state does not collapse in a tsunami of violence is not now nor was it ever historically that such would be physically impossible.
asciilifeform: aha but we just need the 1.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather think about kim's butt.