mircea_popescu: obviously if that's the only job they can get they AREN'T in their right mind. so why should their unright mind get an option as to what it wants to do ?

mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: did not feel the need to argue the point that no on in their right mind wants to stock shelves at the Canadian superstore at 2am <<< why should they get a choice ?

mircea_popescu: because no, i don't credit for a minute this theory whereby the 20yo male is the be-all end-all hope-and-pride of humanity.

mircea_popescu: in any case : i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. let them put a decade in, build themselve financially to the position where they can participate in a start-up, and intellectually to the position where they actually aren't quite AS fucktarded as the average 20something.

mircea_popescu: so wage for btc is not unlike wage for stock warrants, ie, typical start-up work.

mircea_popescu: or any of the other talented folk that got in early, got out early.

mircea_popescu: they probably sold it, of course, but if they did not, they have a lot more liquid btc than say goat.

mircea_popescu: plenty of people took out 100 btc in one month. back then this was you know, a few hundred bucks, "wage".

mircea_popescu: "wage labour" on fain, on a voluntary basis (internet work, add links, vote on links, comments -> collect points -> take out btc) had average monthly payments well over 1 btc. AVERAGE.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: wage labour is wage labour, whether for usd, btc, or gold dubloons <<< this is an iffy proposition.

mircea_popescu: punkman put 1024 keys together with the irc nicks so i can send them a later tell ?

mircea_popescu: wanting is the sign of intellectual health, just like erections are the sign of reproductive health. if you're lying down with teh nekkid gals and get no pang to trash them around it doesn't mean you reached nirvana, it just means you're not long for this world.

mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "not needing money" except for coma patients.

mircea_popescu: however, ben himself wants a tower of hydrocarbons.

mircea_popescu: ife is the end of want, having a wife and a house in the amerca!!!

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: The whole idea that anything can be so "shared" as to have no value in itself is not a problem if the rest of the world ensures that nobody _is_ starving or needing money. <<< this is nonsense anyway. money is always needed, this is a scaling problem. average rat living in a hole in the middle east linking his pretenses to humanity to his possesion of an old cellphone someone lost may think ben_vulpes' l

mircea_popescu: punkman no, because it failed on the test bundle above.

mircea_popescu: Anduck therewas also an unrelated issue discovered, regarding first character on a line, so tyvm.

mircea_popescu: of inadvertence, negligence, or mistake.” As a factual matter, this claim is questionable. It could just as well be said that heavily counseled parties to mega-mergers do not sign merger agreements containing glaringly ambiguous terms that lead to avoidable litigation—but here we are."

mircea_popescu: "In support of their argument that the Agreement preserves liability only for malicious breaches, defendants argue that the word “willful” would be unnecessary unless it meant “malicious.” There is no reason to limit liability to breaches that are intentional, they claim, because any breach of this Agreement would be intentional—”heavily counseled parties to mega-mergers do not breach merger agreements out

mircea_popescu: this is not a trivial problem in any sense : http://trilema.com/2013/our-emperor-deliver-us/

mircea_popescu: they [used to] spill out into here with some regularity.

mircea_popescu: punkman you familiar with the problems surrounding bitbet bets resolution ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: this may also explain the disappearance of moiety and a few other folks. <<< it's not a bad theory in any sense. got any policy proposals based on it ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: is there, somewhere, a smoky bar where they down hard drinks and tell anyone who'll listen how 'it was all a sham11!1!' ? << not afaik, tho i'd like to have a hard drink myself. tho i imagine that'd ruin it huh.

mircea_popescu: on the other hand, it does provide proper incentive for noobs to read the thing, much to their benefit even if "they don't want to, because they know better", so whatevs.

mircea_popescu: anyway, the job board still needs to be made because this system where i drop something in chat and someone either happens to be here or happens to see it in logs is perhaps not optimal.

mircea_popescu: we'll have to think about this some more" and it's the last i heard from him on the topic. or in general, really. that was back in may.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: what was his project (mentioned in the comment) ? <<< you perhaps recall i said at conference i want two things made, an advertising service and a jobs board. we had some initial discussions about it, we ran into a bunch of conceptual difficulties about how exactly to handle the job descriptions/contractual enforcement, which turned out a much more complex task than originally imagined, last was "we

mircea_popescu: like, punk was dead, but then punkcore!

mircea_popescu: adding core to something makes it better

mircea_popescu: so basically the 1-10 man dev studio is exactly one guy.

mircea_popescu: jurov you don't understand how the nodes work!

mircea_popescu: unlike the SEC, MP actually is tough on fraud.

mircea_popescu: http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/slickage-studios << this thing. it never had 10k incoming in its lifetime.

mircea_popescu: he does mention the name in his "report"

mircea_popescu: ;;rate theymos -10 defrauded the tardstalk community by throwing ~half a million dollars worth of BTC at some obscure service provider for kickbacks. a lenghty history of fraudulent behaviour, http://trilema.com/2012/scammer-tag-nefario-theymos-others-known-and-unknown/

mircea_popescu: ;;rated theymos

mircea_popescu: someone paid 350k to "web developers" ?

mircea_popescu: - Expenses: 1505 (1257 Slickage, the rest mostly mods) << according to theymos, tardstalk has spent half a million dollars to one million this year.

mircea_popescu: | 34 | Gavin Andresen | 0 | << not in forum trust list ; | 33 | OgNasty | 1 | << in forum default trust list.

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski:"where's the $1.5mn funding for nanotube's WoT" << perhaps you don';t understand what "a protocol for decentralized and password-less authentication" means.

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: modesty the likes of which would shock a johnny come lately reader << But within that basic framework there are many subtle variations, only discernable to an acute observer, that reflect the many moods, the many shades, the many sides of MP!

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: can anyone remember the title of that trilema article where mircea_popescu discloses how much he sold that 5% chunk of mpex for? << http://trilema.com/2013/smpoe-takes-strategic-investor/ ?

mircea_popescu: jurov: when RT invites amir taaaki as bitcoin expert, it's clear what they are up to, but when they pull some "dutch expert" it's suddent sacrosanct truth <<< lol he got you there asciilifeform

mircea_popescu: nubbins` clearsign doesn't produce the same signature on the same text btw.

mircea_popescu: now we throw eggs at punkman :D

mircea_popescu: jurov: when cooking with olive oil, i can say by smell it's right temp << also butter yeah.

mircea_popescu: punkman it stops at the commented out one ?

mircea_popescu: no. the signature block fucks up something