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asciilifeform regards all mousy wm as turd
decimation: kde used to not be a steaming turdpile
decimation: I remember running with KDE 10 years ago and dreading the 24 hour compiles
decimation: running gentoo certainly gives you a motvation to scale down the lines of code in your system
asciilifeform: but the cost, for people who did not spend the last decade with it, is high.
decimation: asciilifeform: you mean the move from x11 to xorg?
undata: "ah, this is precisely what I wanted"
asciilifeform: undata: i still haven't forgiven the xorg thing
undata: but also to a well-tuned gentoo install feeling a lot like a well-tuned emacs
undata: I can attest to gentoo granting you the right to blow your hand off at every step
decimation: http://www.funtoo.org/Funtoo_Linux_FAQ << "Part of the distinctiveness of Funtoo Linux is its dependency-based OpenRC init system, so changing this would make it something other than Funtoo Linux. So we do not support systemd as part of Funtoo Linux. "
asciilifeform never tried 'funtoo', cannot speak for it
BingoBoingo: Ah, funtoo, the bring your own kernel adventure
decimation: asciilifeform: I thought mr. robbins quit and started his own gentoo fork?
undata: maybe not for everyone for the same reason
undata: ah, that I agree with, but that's part of the beauty
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to some extend it exactly mirrors the bitcoind situation - in that every serious user more or less has his own private fork.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gentoo << complicated. the lead dev surrendered to microshit (literally) some years ago, and it's been run by a skeleton crew ever since, with numerous high-profile catastrophes (of the 'your machine is suddenly rendered unusable by a perfectly innocent-looking action' variety) -- but there is -no- adequate replacement to this day.
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BingoBoingo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome << most interesting event I've had with regularity. Not interested in Clomipramine at all though because I like getting boners.
BingoBoingo: undata: Well, I tend towards generics. Recently though ETOH has been the anticonvulsant of choice.
undata: hard to trust diagnoses with a pfizer clock on the wall
decimation: yeah. actually the first one that came to my mind was Don Colacho
undata: BingoBoingo: yeah, if things like diet and exercise don't help, there are always actual neurological issues to consider
asciilifeform: decimation: because he is familiar to the folks here
asciilifeform: decimation: the example i usually offer is n. taleb
BingoBoingo: I'm not a big fan of antipsychotics, make me feel like Micheal J Fox. Anticonvulsants though, particularly lamotrigine... do my brain well
decimation: asciilifeform: you would like to be more like maxwell?
undata: when I was younger a doctor put me on an antipsychotic for a bit due to "depression"
BingoBoingo: I got my school bezzel so probably actually netted more value in the end.
undata: ah, that'll do it too
undata: BingoBoingo: not an insult; I've heard horror stories of kids tripping, getting hauled into the psych ward
asciilifeform: which is to say, not really at all.
asciilifeform: 'few months' is about as useful as 'few thousand usd'
asciilifeform: can he take a few months off like ascii dreams << when did i ever say 'few months'
undata: BingoBoingo: do the wrong drugs as a kid?
BingoBoingo: decimation: I don't remember that one specifically, but... pretty sure bring a folder of medical records is a part of what did in my chances for interesting stuff. Amazing what a trip to the wrong part of the hospital can do for your prospects
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decimation: BingoBoingo: did they make you take the mmpi?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I probably would have signed for those. But... shift in tenor came when time to draft actual contract.
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decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-52_Stratofortress << ' removal of the tail gun in 1991' wow later than I thought
asciilifeform: language school or medical/technical fields << what were you hoping to become instead ?
asciilifeform behind the times
decimation: I think the last of those were phased out in the 60's
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what was the offered place? ball turret gunner?
asciilifeform: when will the academics finally starve.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: My brain caught fire a bit too early. When medical records came up post ASVAB offers of pick your field turned into, "trust us, we'll find a nice place for you"
decimation: also military benefits are incredibly generous considering the level of education of most enlisted
decimation: asciilifeform: me too. if cards are played right, most mil can write their own tickets in contract jobs
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they mostly had uni degrees though
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: when working as an r&d contractor grunt, i met plenty of folks in uniform happily 'flying the mahogany bomber'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. << do elaborate. should all of us but you & kako pack up? or some other thing implied << I believe for the rest #b-a is Frankenstein's attic laboratory
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Too neurologically interesting to enlist.
decimation: right, and in a related point - if $209k per year makes one a pauper, how much is the real bitcoin foundation going to pay?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how did you resist the army?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'd love to confirm that for you
BingoBoingo: I think I've mentioned here before that after grad school I worked at McDonalds for ~6 weeks to break local kids spirits.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. << do elaborate. should all of us but you & kako pack up? or some other thing implied
decimation: I had a lawyer friend who used to be a prosecutor near asciilifeform. He was told not to frequent the local fast food joints because of the poulation of ex-convicts
undata: better than folding shirts
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo is trying to retain some dignity (has not yet fallen into programming, for example)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> decimation: i don't think anyone here has trouble getting money by working. << I was not able to secure seasonal retail work again this year. I suspect I'm already on a list to "have problems"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: but simply happens to be when my box exhausted ram from leakage and began to fandango on the db.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i suspect that there is nothing magic about that block
ben_vulpes: decimation: i'm inching up on 252450, will post more as i gin them up
asciilifeform: if you watch the right televised strange, one could believe that one possible option for space flight is to light one's farts.
decimation: if you watch 'the wire' one would believe that a possible option would be to sit in your car on the highway and get drunk
asciilifeform: decimation: i don't think anyone here has trouble getting money by working.
asciilifeform: as in, physically go places and do things
asciilifeform: decimation: but they have to work.
decimation: ah thanks ben
asciilifeform: or, alternatively, in the other direction of spectrum, perelman mode.
decimation: asciilifeform: maybe you can get a job at the 'bitcoin foundation' for $209k
ben_vulpes: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wedged-blockchains/237902.tar.gz.00 , https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wedged-blockchains/237902.tar.gz.01 for those looking to wedge a blockchain of their own
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the discussion was not about 'enough money', but about the distinct and clearly identifiable phase transition where your time becomes 100% your own
assbot: Zone for Employment and Economic Development (Honduras) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: however, ben himself wants a tower of hydrocarbons. and if he gets it, he'll want something else. << actually, afaik what he was speaking for is my escape rocket metaphor.
assbot: bellingcat - Russian State Television Shares Fake Images of MH17 Being Attacked
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's not a bad theory in any sense. got any policy proposals based on it ? << beyond 'open a physical empire where we can all defect to and die like men in the janissary corps' - no useful idea.
decimation: can he take a few months off like ascii dreams?
decimation: I wonder how many commits he has to make per week to keep his salary
BingoBoingo: decimation: No, they feed, clothe, and work you at the poor house. Also curfews and such.
decimation: if gavin is a pauper than I'm in the poor house
undata: RagnarDanneskjol: I'm sure he'll enjoy hearing that.
RagnarDanneskjol: that tenyks is very nicely done
undata: mircea_popescu: yeah, the core is written in go, then services in whathaveyou
undata: that thing's pretty good, used in another channel
undata: what are the irc bots around these parts based upon?
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : another thing systemv does badly : it tries to restart stuff based on pidfiles.
mircea_popescu: but do you know how it dies ? anything in the logs ?
PeterL: but I have never done anything quite like this, so I am learning as I go
PeterL: I have been working on adding threading to monitor the connection
PeterL: well, it was not set up to reconnect if it lost the connection
mircea_popescu: PeterL so what about scoopbot uptime ? what keeps taking it down ?
PeterL: mircea_popescu: fixed the blog site
BingoBoingo: Except doctors can count on the MRSA spider always targeting junkies, while Gavin is at the whims of Vessennes burn rate http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/11/mrsa-2/
BingoBoingo: At that income level Gavin's basically in the trap doctors find themsevles when they realize they hate draining abcesses, but their only other prospect is long haul trucking.
mircea_popescu: he could probably make more begging where he lives, and being a professional beggar would actually be much more respectable and honorable than being bitcoin's 5th column.
mircea_popescu: if there ever was proof positive that crime doesn't pay, gavin's income is it.