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undata: amazing how you lose sense of the smell
decimation: yeah, in the old west where trees were lacking, cow shit was firewood
asciilifeform: undata: a fellow i work with spent his childhood (india) in cow shit detail. fuel for the local cremation pyre.
asciilifeform: folks who have not boiled in the cauldron cannot fathom the kind of hells that exist. i once worked in a salt mine where scores of people dredged 'reddit', illicitly, all day.
mircea_popescu: im kinda curious what comes of the ben_vulpes - mod6 pairing in this vein.
mircea_popescu: decimation the tora study model eh ?
decimation: asciilifeform: for myself, I find working with an engage colleague to be much more motivating than a boss yelling
mircea_popescu: should that actually happen, teenager would run and hide in a corner.
undata: I think plenty more subconsciously know the same, and are hiding in distractions
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tell you what : teenager is used to seeing girls in his class dressed, imagines he'd ben efit from the removal of the clothes.
undata: decimation: having been convinced that the walls of my country are going to fall in, I've got all the motivation I need
asciilifeform: doesn't mean it needs the stones for anythig
asciilifeform: sparrow in the park may be used to children throwing stones at it
asciilifeform: micromanagement << most folks around here used to it, but i always imagined they would profit from its removal
mircea_popescu: laziness is a virtue of the well provisioned.
mircea_popescu: decimation sure, great. no complaints may then be entertained about needing stuff tho.
decimation: After seeing work exploit and demolish the world, laziness seems like the mother of the virtues. (#2,053)<< http://don-colacho.blogspot.com/2010/10/2053.html
mircea_popescu: even today i have plenty of handcrankled tasks for the aspiring slavegirl. never a shortage of that. what's of shortage is teh ppl to disciplinedly work, erry day, hour after hour.
asciilifeform: ah hm ok. i don't think the other thing was public
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's unrelated.
mircea_popescu: many people are used to micromanagement, under relentless pressure from a pointless class that wants to justify its existence
mircea_popescu: part of the problem is, the internet (and esp my stuff) is very self-directed
asciilifeform vaguely recalls an apparatus involving telephony, where moiety was paid per minute, but few folks called
asciilifeform wasn't there
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought it actually happened
mircea_popescu: maybe internets just noit her thing
mircea_popescu: i tried to onlinehire her but for some reason she lacked the drive or w/e.
mircea_popescu: well she had to figure out rent
mircea_popescu: and since you mentioned moiety, from what i understood that was exactly her position.
asciilifeform: i still can't fathom 1 being the magic number in there
mircea_popescu: no further than today.
mircea_popescu: im sure the various "give us 1 btc or else !!1" kids were in exactly this position.
asciilifeform unaware of this being a thing for any of the people still here
mircea_popescu: to restate : if you rent's due and you're short you should not be here chatting, you should be putting out that fire.
asciilifeform: plenty of degrees. but, i can't help but notice phase transitions in the space.
mircea_popescu: then maybe one day the kid gets to the point where he even has the freedom to consider wtf he's doing. further degree.
mircea_popescu: some guys work three jobs to try and get the kid in school where he can work in a sv startup. this is a degree of improvement.
mircea_popescu: so there are degrees. yes, everyone in the bezzle is in the bezzle.
mircea_popescu: for some chicks, the fact that how the shot does a cheese dispenser work ?! is a more pressing question.
mircea_popescu: so, degrees. for most chicks, the cheese dispensed by the cheese dispenser is all there is.
asciilifeform: if here 1 -> 2 continued to 2 -> 4 -> 8 -> ... ... maxint - then yes, interesting
mircea_popescu: put it another way : if i didn't think the .1 is the smaller half, i wouldn't be giving it out in the first place.
assbot: Internet story pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
asciilifeform: iirc you only paid per set of tits ?
mircea_popescu: well, the .1 ain't, in my mind, the actual larger half.
asciilifeform: if they could get the .1 again and again - perhaps would
asciilifeform: on account of having exhausted the fountain ?
mircea_popescu: one explanation, that persuades me, it's because they dun have the time to. because they gotta work.
mircea_popescu: they didn't stick around. why this ?
asciilifeform: cazalla wallowing with the eagles, lol
mircea_popescu: consider the case of the various chicks that came to show their tits for .1 btc
cazalla: this fkn conference i'm streaming.. "cold storage is out dated, it's about multisig now".. where do you see bitcoin in 20 years time? "something like email where you can instantly send value over the internet"
asciilifeform: let's have the cold equations
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not exactly believe b-a is intended for the workaday people. << do elaborate. should all of us but you & kako pack up? or some other thing implied << well, i know you self-motivate by refusing to see some degrees, but there are some degrees.
mircea_popescu: this would seem to sane minds the only way to close, but then it "took too long", so...
mircea_popescu: no no, bitcoin itself can close in such a way so as to not leave its own state crud crudely saved
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: decimation: but at one point exhausted ram, but blockchain remained wedged upon restart <<< speaking of this, there's an option to close with detached bdb
asciilifeform: i was unaware that gentoo was on 'hate radar' for folks who aren't using it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even if the work of a policeman consisted solely in going to a doughnut shop and eating a kg of garbage every day, so long as he -must- -- that is still work.
mircea_popescu: "o, then you have every right to hate it" lmao
mircea_popescu: im bashing that exchange lol
decimation: I might try 'funtoo' if he is serious about no systemd
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: as in, physically go places and do things << dunkin donuts ?
undata: asciilifeform: ah! then you have every right to hate it.
undata: asciilifeform: I'm surprised you don't like gentoo, given you tend to advocate actually knowing what your computer's doing, and why
decimation: many folks trying to get low latency ditch it
decimation: the vga console code on linux still sucks after all these years
asciilifeform: well, you only need bios support to access the bios menu this way
decimation: some bioses support this
decimation: no I mean no video card, serial tty only
asciilifeform: as in, the one normal people see on boot
asciilifeform: probably meant 'text mode' tty ?
decimation: purists avoid 'vga' console for serial term
asciilifeform: although destroying sole means of network connectivity and ending up snaking a ppp link across room, is good times
mircea_popescu: next you know they ARE on windows.
mircea_popescu: problem is, yoyu get them on ubuntu, next you know they think it's windows and update
asciilifeform: one can always get a text tty
mircea_popescu: i guess ubuntu 10.04 could be the alternative.
undata: I don't do any more work administrating mine than debian.
mircea_popescu: anyway, what i said was, to noobs looking at linux
asciilifeform: but if you think keeping one gentoo box around is work, try five.
asciilifeform: now, anyone with access to a skip owns arbitrarily many
mircea_popescu: ie, 1% of the 8bn
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose the "so ssh then" only works for people who youi knw, actually own multiple computers
asciilifeform: it's pestilentially endemic with any tall dependency stack.
mircea_popescu: not as in, well the hdd's wiped and the bios randomly rewired
mircea_popescu: but i mean... rendered unusalbe as in you can't get a terminal on your monitor
decimation: but for that reason most contractors are reluctant to 'donate' their hardware in such a way
decimation: asciilifeform: I think it depends if there was anything 'secret' on the drive - in that case it probably must be destroyed
asciilifeform: if you come across one, know that usg mandates disk sanitation pre-surplus, but no such law is enforced on contractors...
decimation: related: " The revolutionary does not discover the “authentic spirit of the revolution” except before the revolutionary tribunal that condemns him." http://don-colacho.blogspot.com/2010/08/1665.html
decimation: I know that there are many scavengers who survive on reselling usg surplus
asciilifeform: a number of them.
decimation: do you have a favorite 'junk dealer' in the dc area?
asciilifeform: there seems to be an inexhaustible supply of them around here.
asciilifeform: this is perhaps the 3rd time i see one of these for sale, too
decimation: imagine the mind of the 'interviewee': surely usg wouldn't spend bezzlars on those fine knobs if this wasn't serious business
decimation: yeah only someone attending to 'serious business' would have a setup like that
decimation: you should have bought it for the rotary switches
asciilifeform: i suspect the theatrical aspects demanded this.