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decimation: I wrote too soon, qntra and trilema are both down for me now right now
decimation: I note that our volunteer testers seem to have left whatever routing tables they were messing with alone
mircea_popescu: i was mostly giving you a hard time :D
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and the destroyers - will pay. one day. << aite!
asciilifeform thought he explained this
decimation: re: gavin's 40 hr week << I was merely pointing out that if ascii's formula is (freedom hrs)/(work hrs), then gavin might have a good score
asciilifeform: and the destroyers - will pay. one day.
asciilifeform: going right back to 'attribution' point - these libraries - did not burn.
asciilifeform: and that's just one man's archive.
asciilifeform: easily worth ten thousand of today's internets put together.
mircea_popescu: civilisations are judged by what remains, not by what they once were.
mircea_popescu wasn't there, doesn't care anymore about this primitive tribe than about any other primitive tribe that was swallowed b y history.
joecool: are you talking about the dejanews archive?
asciilifeform: ('early usenet archive' is separate gizmo there)
joecool: i just went to groups.google.com and ran a search and it popped up a few usenet newsgroups and some results mostly from usenet
joecool: asciilifeform: seems to work for me?
mircea_popescu: undata somehow im still getting spam comments tho
undata: mircea_popescu: I can't pull up trilema here either
mircea_popescu: "if you don't wash your hands you get dysentery" "really ? .... hmm.... maybe, but i tihnk it's the will of god... i have my amulets with me..."
mircea_popescu: and they're like, you know, a buncha barbarians confronting microorganisms.
mircea_popescu: coburn actually has to TELL people, that attribution is a thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2010/politica-adevarata/ << just consider that.
asciilifeform: is it really possible that i'm the only one who noticed ?
asciilifeform: but anyone who thought that a 'library of alexandria' was safe in the hands of the likes of 'google' - was a fool from the start.
asciilifeform: and the devils who fear.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: note also my observation last week, that i intensely suspect 'google usenet archive' was zapped not on account of any accident
mircea_popescu: and it's vastly pervasive. average us politician will not understand that his voting record is a matter of... record!
cazalla: hate to say it but.. qntra? ddos?
mircea_popescu: for a while i used to say it (back when i was dealing with romanians). it did... exactly zero difference.
mircea_popescu: somehow this is not a possible concept.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't even manage to pierce the dielectric between their ears that no, im jus saving it for later.
mircea_popescu: to this day, and shockingly, i write about church ? ppl are "oh, you're jealous"
mircea_popescu: most of them didn't realise this attribution doohickey even exists.
asciilifeform: surprising he'd use the name again.
mircea_popescu: "hje's been in bitcoin". "o, but doing what ?" "nevermind that!!!"
mircea_popescu: cause nothing is so fucking evil as you know, someone digging up on trilema, coming up with meni rosenfeld's name, now the scumwipe can't go around pretending like you know
asciilifeform: what does true hate even mean, if not this.
asciilifeform: how could they not.
mircea_popescu: and this chan is called a cult, or anything else bad!111 for that reason.
mircea_popescu: but this doesn't change the fact that nobody did it, nor does it change the fact that i'm principally hated for that reason, my agents have been principally hated for that reason
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well that's why the quotes. obviously it's an ancient idea, and no invention whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: swanson's "that's not how normal debates work" is just an echo of that.
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 00:27:45; asciilifeform: there was a three-man system
mircea_popescu: the idea that what you do wil come back to haunt you is very much mpoe[-pr], as far as the bitcoin, and generally the "entrepreneurial" spaces are concerned.
asciilifeform: !s three-man system
asciilifeform: but in practice - this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yup, but until being "invented" here that really never existed.
mircea_popescu: it's the one place it hurts.
mircea_popescu: and which is why as BingoBoingo pointed out earlier, when touched there they react. (the tor people in that case)
mircea_popescu: which is why career anlysis is such a powerful tool,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: if it were to implode, the shills will be placed into similar roles elsewhere <<< pretty miuch this.
asciilifeform: he skipped red finland to end up in... this.
asciilifeform: except that he was frog-marched.
asciilifeform: and the printed one was a 'print on demand', there was no actual reason to zap it
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure you could, and still can, do this with deb 3.1
asciilifeform: ilkka's book << notice he pulled the 'kindle' version also.
asciilifeform: normally this is at least minimally mechanized.
asciilifeform: 'source based distro,' classically, is when nothing (other than bootstrap compiler & kernel, thomson says hello) gets on the box without being built there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was sorta my point in reply
mircea_popescu: what fucking difference does it make how many nominal hours teh slave works.
mircea_popescu: decimation: asciilifeform: do you think gavin works 40 hours per week on the git repo? << do you suppose captive whore in thai illegal brothel works 40 hours per week ?
asciilifeform: he was a die-hard poker player and loved applying the metaphors to, well, relevant things.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: and that's more or less it. << notice that bitbet, mpex, trilema, qntra, logs etc all work on lynx.
asciilifeform: i have the dead tree book, it's a 'best of' his blog
asciilifeform: or the like
asciilifeform: tried to contact him 2 yrs. ago, he said 'shoo'
mircea_popescu: hanbot mail the man would you.
asciilifeform: then came back. then, disappeared again, taking all of his materials with him, this time - for good, apparently.
asciilifeform: first time, made to recant, threatened.
asciilifeform: not once, but twice.
asciilifeform: he is/was a finnish emigre, working as a comp sci prof in canada. was hounded off the net by 'outraged mass' for moldbuggery.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i know of no setup where it is possible to set up even a very decent 486 in such a way that it can be used for serious work today. <<< sarge ?
asciilifeform: that book is all that's left of him.
asciilifeform: i think ilkka kokkarinen had a colachobot
cazalla: i wanted to make snow camo but who has the time
decimation is dreaming of building a colacho-bot which attempts to provide the appropriate aphorism for the conversational mood
asciilifeform: (what do you usually do with those?)
cazalla: asciilifeform, you DO know i raise rabbits right? *here comes cazalla and his rabbits talk again*
decimation: Frustration is the distinctive psychological characteristic of democratic society. Where all may legitimately aspire to the summit, the entire pyramid is an accumulation of frustrated individuals. http://don-colacho.blogspot.com/2010/05/1110.html
asciilifeform: or is this normal for the species
cazalla: asciilifeform, i wish, just rabbits but i'm sure you know this
cazalla: sometimes to doe mounts the buck
cazalla: you take the doe to the buck too!
mircea_popescu: why do you think you take the bitch to the dog, not vice-versa ? males are shy.
mircea_popescu: why. because nothing is as scary as cunt, that's why. try it sometime.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: teenager would run and hide in a corner << puzzling over this. why would this happen ?
asciilifeform: (folks will bite but not the ones you want)
cazalla: mircea_popescu, this job actually coincides with the fraud i reported on weeks ago to which they never responded, i'm writing it up
mircea_popescu: cazalla im sure one'd have to sign whatever.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in parts of near east, folks mix it into chewing tobacco.
mircea_popescu: maybe it's because it tastes good.
undata: I can firmly attest they are not
asciilifeform not expert on the mechanics whereby cow shit does not count as shit
asciilifeform: human turds -> dalit
cazalla: any takers for http://www.findbitcoinjobs.com/jobs/20347-risk-investigator-at-coinbase ? can double as a mole for qntra
asciilifeform: so long as human turds not involved - ok.
decimation: I think you are thinking of dalit
asciilifeform: somehow there was an exception for children doing chores
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: oddly enough - brahmin, entirely unsullied by this
mircea_popescu: doesn't that make him whatever that caste is ?