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mircea_popescu: the common cold is the most common disease. it is not the "largest" nor the most important disease.
mircea_popescu: "The need to obtain, install, and manage certificates from that bureaucracy is the largest reason that sites keep using HTTP instead of HTTPS. " <<< most common != largest.
cazalla: or she didn't actually read the article
mircea_popescu: "Today EFF is pleased to announce Let’s Encrypt, a new certificate authority (CA) initiative that we have put together with Mozilla, Cisco, Akamai, IdenTrust, and researchers at the University of Michigan that aims to clear the remaining roadblocks to transition the Web from HTTP to HTTPS."
mircea_popescu: cazalla she might know more than you about how to deal with such things
mircea_popescu: no, /hoːmən/ actually, my bad. ɒː is the other one.
cazalla: fucking lol, that shapiro chick favourited the qntra article on her hardware wallet
thestringpuller: who you pronounce that?
mircea_popescu: whereas to the counterparty, those oppressing them : you could probably switch to "man and homan".
mircea_popescu: i propose euman as the term. it's different from human in that it's BETTER!
mircea_popescu: by the way, any transhumanists of the future reading this, secretly in their secret coven while being grieviously oppressed by an unrelentingly ignorant society :
punkman: what woman has longer torso than legs anyway
thestringpuller: so they can kick you more easily?
mircea_popescu: cazalla best women = longer legs than torso.
cazalla: well, you know, some people's footnotes are longer than the article itself
cazalla: thestringpuller, they? one or two people!
thestringpuller: and they complained about my footnotes. (jus' sayin')
assbot: Vessenes' Bitcoin Foundation Publishes Telling Survey Results. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/11hfyE9 )
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Well this whole Jesus thing has kind of been a huge bummer for Western civilization ever since the Romans started taking it seriously <<< it happened as the very complex roman religions were brought closer to the understanding of teh plebs.
assbot: You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship.
assbot: The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've been trying to pinpoint the pathology for a while now. this so far is the best hypothesis i know.
mircea_popescu: puritards, i swear... they're worse than the catholics.
mircea_popescu: but in fact, considering pedigrees, that's exactly what the antecessor of this was huh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: and the rawlsian lottery is presumed to include only them <<< ahhh, excellent point re the "inner light" stuff. it wasn't directly apparent,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect precisely this, almost to a word, is a formative experience for every boy with half a brain. sorta like if adult tells boy that sky is same colour as grass
mircea_popescu: i still can't shake the same bemused, "wait, did the monkey srsly just try to shoot me with a stick" disbelief whenever confronted with it, to this day.
mircea_popescu: out of which she even has like, expectations, not to mention thinks it victorious in principle and afore the fact, like calling the name of god or something.
mircea_popescu: it took me a coupla passes until it sunk in that the woman actually is seriously presenting this as some sort of an argument,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: that is, 'slavery is bad mmkay because what if you were a slave' << lol i remember an encounter with this in kindergarten. substitute whoever attacked some longstanding privilege of mine that i meanwhile forgot with the totally unexpected "can't do that, because what if all the other kids want it too ?"
thestringpuller: mats_cd03: sounds similar to the line from The Dark Knight. "Live long enough to become the villian"
mircea_popescu: who was it, baez had a song about how [the wife] has opened the last can of baked beans
mircea_popescu: not even so much surprise, where is that song
asciilifeform: i bet that modern folks will discover, to some surprise, how many were subscribed to the 'last bullet health & pension insurance co.'
mircea_popescu: rare is the man that actually won't.
mircea_popescu: right. so yeah, the worst thing about a friend getting cancer is that point where they lose it
mircea_popescu: can you blame him ? perhaps. can you mock him ? definitely. will he stop tho ?
mircea_popescu: but meanwhile, the hunchback is trying to straighten "through science".
mircea_popescu: it worked before people travelled, but your average usian thatever visited europe now knows that the sprawl is fucking insane AND not needed.
mircea_popescu: there are many decades, century+ worth of bad decisions baked in that will have to be unwound.
asciilifeform: or was that simply re: collapse? in which case, aye
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the us has to get off consumerism. this is not an if.
mircea_popescu: anyway. in the country where no man may say "do it this way ~becayse i say so~" all sorts of pathologies are bound to develop. because in point of fact a country has some scope for that sort of thing, whether you want to or not. and like in any living organism, once a metabolic pathway is blocked, homeostasis becomes extremely difficult if at all possible. and will take all sorts of crazy to pull off.
mircea_popescu: "i was following orders111" "who the fuck from ?" "reality!"
mircea_popescu: right ? i predict "the dictates of reality" as a concept to make its appearance at the war on terror warcrimes tribunal.
mircea_popescu: yet, everyone loves this "i had no choice" and "what would you have me do ? LEAVE ?" thing.
mircea_popescu: governing a herd of idiots who nevertheless think themselves the crown of creation is no easy feat. it is also no feat any thinking man should ever accomplish, for any accomplishment at all, and most mere attempts, are quite morally wrong, and taint something fierce.
mircea_popescu: instead, he will present a list of "proofs". of his value, importance and utility. which he knows are bunk. but what's he to do ?
mircea_popescu: just like a professor won't have the mp superbity to go into the review meeting hands in pockets and deliver a stern "fuck you, i'm doing you a favor being here, now you prove yourselves to me and then go home."
mircea_popescu: and if they have to be made up... they will be.
mircea_popescu: but that's not how it works, because to keep up the semblance of "popular democracy" one is stuck "persuading" the cattle. so all sorts of "justifications" have to be made up.
mircea_popescu: so add these two together, what do you get ? obviously the actual goals of the entire "global warming" stuff, especioally if scrubbed of all the crud, would generally be beneficial and are in any case unavoidable.
assbot: Logged on 18-11-2014 00:09:10; mircea_popescu: “We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. ” ~Stephen Schneider, environmental activist, in _Discover_, Oct. '89
mircea_popescu: now the other two : http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-11-2014#927097
mircea_popescu: Those who are arguing about the cost of healthcare or think that poor people are lying to get benefits are completely and utterly missing the point of the system. It wants this in the hands of doctors, because it would be toxic to everyone else. Can you imagine your Senator deciding who gets benefits and who doesn't?"
mircea_popescu: "Do you want riots in the streets? How much does it cost to prevent LA (or the city of your choice) from catching fire? Answer: $600/month/person, plus Medicaid. Medicalizing social problems has the additional benefit of rendering society not responsible for those social ills. If it's a disease, it's nobody's fault. Yay empiricism.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Terrible, Awful Truth About Supplemental Security Income ... ( http://bit.ly/11pCX62 )
mircea_popescu: the first two, "giving poor people money so they're too fat to ferguson" : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/tlp.html
mircea_popescu: let's add two and two together here.
mircea_popescu: preexisting policy goals ? DING DING DING the man's a winner! check out the ~coinicidence~ there!
mircea_popescu: take global warming. it is EXACTLY that, they created an imaginary reality to replace earth's history, and that imaginary reality now serves... what does it serve ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: applying statistical (or otherwise) counterfactuals to an actual reality is a mistake of the same elementary scope as division by zero, or direct conversion of metres to grams - but for some reason which entirely escapes me, this is not obvious to people << the reason may escape you but is obvious.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and that's about as relevant to the people in the field as the "bitcoin (tm)" "vessenes scam foundation" are relevant to bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ".@rabite I think I liked you better as a Christian, could you go back to the Jesus stuff please" lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jihad long predates the invention of america, let alone the creation of the usg.
mircea_popescu: *: asciilifeform always wondered, in that spirit, if there exist folks with 'useful' tattoos, e.g., one that turns you into a 'human slide rule' <<< yes. in russian prisons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, i believe their sustenance is genuine.
mircea_popescu: (women have a very deeply entrenched masochism in them, as you'd expect of machines made to actually carry to term and give birth. the more heavily sexed ones often have trouble managing it until their late 30s)
mats_cd03: if not... you live long enough to see your buddies dragged behind a cart.
mats_cd03: if you're clever enough to win, then you live long enough to see the mess you've created
mats_cd03: legitimate grievances or not, i don't see a problem with taking up arms in support of wutever they believe
mircea_popescu: i do. what the fuck do they think they are, reddit on steroids ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Oh response<< any idea what that's supposed to mean ?
mircea_popescu: is the name in recognition of your many queefs or what.
mircea_popescu: except you know... minus all the actual things.
asciilifeform: i have yet to encounter a 'mousetrap' more effective than 'lesswrong' circa 2009 or so - that is, a mechanism for wasting the time of intelligent folks. has to be seen to be believed, really.
mircea_popescu: so to this day it's still trying to sort-of pretend it's that, /b/ in its glory days, 2005ish
mircea_popescu: but ever since, and apparently to its last day, it had an inferiority complex to 4chan
mircea_popescu: then some guy decided to fill it up with child porn, and so it (obviously) took off
mircea_popescu: it's funny how the history of that thing went. it was about as retarded as lesswrong, originally, a sort of obscure livejournal clone populated by worthless shut-ins (which doesn't mean alkl shut-ins are worthless).
mircea_popescu: shit, people there can even ddos
mircea_popescu: well the advantage to us being two different people is that our data doesn't match.
asciilifeform: it was actual people. at least - then
mircea_popescu: who did you think was on reddit ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 5-10k a month sort of affair5-10k a month sort of affair << of maths grad students, though. not homo redditicus. although, to be fair, this is from my personal observations of 5 yrs. or so vintage.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess now i'm stuck doing a rawls is a clueless ignoramus masquerading as a philosopher (if the "american" part didn't give it away by itself), inept enough to present mere circular reasoning as "moral thought"
mircea_popescu: so i suppose this is where i backtrack.
mircea_popescu: "you are greatly overstating the importance of the site, it's not reddit sized. it's not even digg.com sized, as of today. it's actually smaller than your blog, 5-10k a month sort of affair."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to see 'what' dance, visit their forum, their wiki, put on gas mask. to see how many - ask intel dept. i have not counted them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spam filter - and, aha, bayes lived long ago, likewise. mr y did not invent the moving parts. just stuck the pig head on the pole and convinced various folks to dance.
mircea_popescu: i do not believe this outrage.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ask around. i know, it's difficult to believe. but the man (yes, he was an actual hassid, afaik he was expelled from their number) is a 'natural hitler' or however it is called these days.
mircea_popescu: the onlyproblem with this theory being that spamfilters predate his adolescence.
mircea_popescu: dude talk of achievement.
mircea_popescu: wait, you are crediting a 35 yo blogger from san francisco with having single handedly created the pop-bayesian idiocy now making up half of applied math out there ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes him personally. he organized a perverse cult around bayes's theorem, and hypnotized a thousand reasonably-intelligent folks (mathematical, physical, etc. students)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's the connection << organized abuse of statistical concepts for satanic purposes ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, consider leaving a shlomo comment on the article itself, for readers of teh future.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 allah loves the honest man, neh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait, what's the connection there ?