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xanthyos: i use
tinychat because i'm fucking depressed and i get stuck in my room for weeks at
time or stuck at
the ktichen sink for a 40 minute block
cazalla: ;;rate -10 xanthyos uses
tiny chat
xanthyos: [12:12:17 AM] eric: i saw
that fuck slater come on earlier with "weboftrust" as nis name
to
troll sophie and me when we were on
tinychatr
xanthyos: [12:12:03 AM] eric: shouldn't have brought yotu ointo
the wot
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kakobrekla: db.log sez >Lock
table is out of available lock entries
kakobrekla: im gonna
try with set_lk_max_locks 40000
assbot: ASN 35908 - search on blocklist.de for: ASN: 35908 VPLSNET - Krypt
Technologies - Hits: 82; ; -- www.blocklist.de ... (
http://bit.ly/1HisKtB )
rithm: who be Krypt
Technologies VPLSNET (NET-67-198-128-0-1) 67.198.128.0 - 67.198.255.255
kakobrekla: btw not
too much relevant but i wedged 0.7 at 252450
ben_vulpes: so i've pushed my 0.5.3 up
to block 249618, and am now going
to run it past
the block at which asciilifeform reports wedging, and hopefully all
the way
to memory exhaustion
mircea_popescu: anyway.
the problem of re-reading. i find goldsmith much less on point
than i did back when i first read him.
ben_vulpes: americans envy each other
the "good boss"
mircea_popescu: rather
than just pretend like "everything's equalk anyway"
mircea_popescu: is it
that
the slave is actually a better human being, strictly for having had
the sense
to be a slave, and follow
the will of a worthy master
mircea_popescu: “The poor citizen found almost all
the spheres in which an honourable livelihood might be obtained wholly or at least in a very great degree preoccupied by slaves, while he had learnt
to regard
trade with an invincible repugnance." <<< here's a good question. how come
the "free citizen" aka, delusional derp can not compete with
the slave ?
ben_vulpes: as if a million log readers wondered what happened
to a slave's salary, and were suddently silenced
mircea_popescu: i so loathe it when people
try
to serve a solid point by pious fraud.
mircea_popescu: "Also he possessed a wife and child.
This,
too, was a great innovation."
ben_vulpes: i felt a great disturbance in
the blockchain
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how do i do it lol. she's on my payroll and keeps
things organised for my convenience ?
ben_vulpes: k well pegged for
this search next quarter
ben_vulpes: i seek
that bh letter mpoe-pr posted
that
talks about diminishing returns on hardware investments
JorgePasada: asciilifeform: We've had peacetime in
the last 100 years?
mircea_popescu: course
these days due
to automation, crews are kinda obsolete in both aviation and submersion roles.
mircea_popescu: who
the fuck do you
think can put up with constantly rubbing against other dudes ?
mircea_popescu: it's not just "an improvement". it's cultural revolution huge, like
the automobile.
mircea_popescu: right ?
turning a simple one way consumer into an actual integrated cycle is huge.
mircea_popescu: (i obviously fucked up my digit breaks, but i
think
the idea carries anyway ?)
mircea_popescu: this is roughly speaking 3
to 5x
the efficiency your competition gets.
mircea_popescu: your costs ? .18 + .3 = ~.5 MJ
to keep a 1MW circuit going perpetually.
mircea_popescu: this water has another .7MJ added by a nuclear power plant,
turns
to steam, powers a
turbine, putting out 1MW of electricity which restarts
the cycle.
mircea_popescu: 1MW is used
to generate hashing power.
this means it
turns into 9.999 MJ of heat.
This heat is extracted, by compressor using 180kJ, and 6MJ of it are used
to preheat some water.
JorgePasada: It's just
that, if we're still
talking about
the vertically integrated mining
thing, I don't see it as a viable play
to accumulate wealth
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: Yeah, I'd agree with
that quote and your subsiquent comment for
the most part
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note
that it was
trying
to administer
the lands
that ruined
them. not conquering
them in
the first place.
mircea_popescu: it is not
true
that money and wealth is "wrong" or "corrupts", as
the fucking protestants would have you believe. it is not
true
that appetite or expansion are evil, as
the puritans would hae you believe.
JorgePasada: Just have
the plant be 20% mining but only
the 20% where you're gonna be wasting
the energy anyway
JorgePasada: but
then instead of going all out with
the mining
mircea_popescu: dermined
the basis of social stability, by substituting
the bonds established by “contract” for
those dependent on “status” as a basis for social order." are little more
than present nonsense anachronised.
mircea_popescu: "The resultant society, however, was still reasonably stable and probably would have lasted a very long
time if it had not been for Rome’s expansionist policies, which led
to
the establishment of
the Empire." <<
this notion,
that it was "expansionism"
that broke rome's back,
together with
the previous "Its power was not based on hereditary status but much more on wealth. Such a change in itself must have seriously un
JorgePasada: for stuff
they're going
to do anyway in
the plant
JorgePasada: and if anything changes in
the market, it could crash
the whole
thing
JorgePasada: if
the only point of
the
thing is
to churn out more mining chips
to put in
the space of
the
thing
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: No, but you'd have
to find a way
to not make it a 100% deep 0% wide business, you'd need wiggle room
JorgePasada: that wouldn't be outweighed by
the efficiency gains from
the vertical integration IMO
JorgePasada: But,
there would be enormous amonuts of risk in something like
that
JorgePasada: I don't
think it'll happen,
too much concentration of risk. Maybe in like 3 years after
the next reward cut
mircea_popescu: that indeed preheating water with
the extracted heat would boost efficiency enormously.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it finally danwed on me after seeing
that comment on
the humble proposal
to miners
cazalla: i imagine knc will mine and
then once returns drop,
they'll begin selling
the cloud services
to mine from customers wallets
than bitcoin mining itself
mircea_popescu: the fact
that chip manufacturers are mostly not selling
to individuals anymore, and
the fact
that mining is moving
towards meaningless "cloud" derivatives is some point of concern.
cazalla: eventually someone will come up with
the idea of renaming
the ponzi
to a mining simulator and pitch it as such
JorgePasada: cazalla: People actually
think GAW is anything but a ponzi scheme?
mircea_popescu: a well, sure, plenty of scams.
those are of little consequence.
cazalla: in
the case of GAW,
they point
to bitmain and had
them confirm
that
they placed an order as proof
that
they mine and people fall for it all
the same
cazalla: i suspect most of
them are ponzi and some operate as such until
they collect enough funds
to actually mine, fake it
till you make it "the secret"
type shit
mircea_popescu: yes, except now pushed by
the more corrupt of
the mining gear manufacturers.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, but it's in
the cloud so it has
to be good! soon we will be living in
the cloud, storing our wallets in
the cloud and mining in
the cloud
mircea_popescu: cazalla just between you and me,
this bullshit "cloud mining" is a step away from pool mining in
the utterly wrong direction.
mircea_popescu: There is
the moral of all human
tales '(tis but
the same rehearsal of
the past) : first Freedom, and
then Glory when
that fails. Wealth, vice, corruption, barbarism at last. For History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
decimation: " A former U.S. ambassador who had dealt with Lavrov at
the United Nations described him
to me as disciplined, witty and charming, a diplomat so skilled “he runs rings around us in
the multilateral sphere.”"
assbot: Collections of views and other impressions. Also from Buenos Aires. pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1EYap0F )
decimation: at any rate, I'm sure
the qntra readers in French Polynesia are disappointed
decimation: interesting. one can probably determine a fair bit by examine
the phase of
the sine