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pete_dushenski: asciilifeform ah! my canon needed some fleshing out. ty!
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i kept waiting, in your article, for the link to the canonical classic on the subject ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/924795/posts )
asciilifeform: (when 'they' - dare, e.g., stuxnet, somehow it goes 'down the memory hole' and magicked into 'never happened you consp1r4cy nutter')
asciilifeform: on account of 'but they wouldn't dare'
asciilifeform: the only apparent exception is pki, which 'everyone' seems to know is a master key anal orifice of the first order, wherever it chances to appear, and yet virtually no one objects
asciilifeform: and when produced, are typically built to be physically indistinguishable from the 'natural' kind.
asciilifeform: undata: the entire architecture (soft & hard stack) is a meta-backdoor
undata: asciilifeform: certainly there are intentional back-doors, but I'm not going to give every steaming pile of microshit that excuse
asciilifeform: microshit periodically goes to step 1, on release cycle (new winblows and 'service packs')
asciilifeform: 5) patch is reversed by folks paid or otherwise happy to carry out this duty, and go to step 2.
pete_dushenski: o that's step 5
asciilifeform: 4) exploit is patched, patch introduces more of the substance seen in step (1) (plausibly-deniable spaghetti that contains seeds of next iteration of cycle)
asciilifeform: 3) exploit is discovered by humans and put to use by wild men
asciilifeform: usg cycle goes approximately: 1) produce anal orifice (entirely plausibly-deniable bugpharms like microshit, with pedigrees going back into the sands of time, and impossibility of attribution or meaningful study - easy)
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asciilifeform: which is to say, the exact mechanism whereby the supply of 0day is in fact inexhaustible
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asciilifeform: (what will we hear, when they do? approximately, what everyone already knew.)
asciilifeform: one day they will talk.
asciilifeform: incidentally, there are folks who reverse microshit's patches for a living.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo all good. you assumed that everything i touch is gold. but alas. a human is i and a human is you.
BingoBoingo: My bad on hitting the publish button
pete_dushenski: lessons learned 1) speak to what you know, 2) don't say "yes" to everything just because, 3) if you're going to do something, do it well, 4) have qntra articles vetted before publishing, 5) never quote wikipedia, duh.
asciilifeform: incidentally, the one type of winblows 0day that will remain in inexhaustible supply for so long as microshit remains a thing, is the usb drive 0day.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu ya that article was embarassingly shitty
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rithm: not sure if one comma or two
rithm: BingoBoingo possible run-on sentence: It's beautiful this thing barely old enough to squirm managing to commit forward locomotion under its own power
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asciilifeform: the apple et. al. 'born again in crypto' thing is cheap psyop.
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asciilifeform: ^ thread re: 'provenance'
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2014 02:17:56; assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 19:05:02; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom.
mircea_popescu: hm where's that discussion re labs and measurements and how things get accepted
assbot: The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcWd1 )
asciilifeform: 'what two men know - the sow knows'
BingoBoingo: Especially don't tell people where you keep your private key if it is derived from using an Iris scanner on your butthole
assbot: The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcHOW )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-wisdom-of-crowds-apparently-it-mostly-depends-on-the-crowds-in-question/#comment-110072 o look, there's a debate.
asciilifeform: punkman: generally there is very little to be gained by telling other people anything re: where and how you keep your key.
punkman wonders how many people in the WoT use airgapped gpg to auth
asciilifeform: hell, some apparently clever folks (taleb?) can't even be bothered to dredge up a computer, or figure out 'irc' - so, no amount of free voice will help.
mircea_popescu: but there's your answer at any rate : voice model chills speech. this includes some speech you didn't apparently want chilled.
mircea_popescu: anyway, how did that theory go, it's a balancing act.
asciilifeform: thing is, a fellow who doesn't 'believe in' or like pgp, and doesn't care for the guarantees proper use provides, can automate up to a hundred percent of the process
mircea_popescu: then paste the result. it's maybe 30 seconds. but yeah, i guess, a hassle.
mircea_popescu: kanzure generally the way i use it is hit a curl http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452|gpg and feed it my pw
asciilifeform: most of it spent with [censored] rather than on anything particular to 'gribble'
kanzure: you have a very high tolerance
kanzure: 5 minutes to auth?
asciilifeform: kanzure: it takes me all of 5 minutes to auth, and i do it every other week or so (when isp disconnects for a spell)
kanzure: i'm not gonna sit around like a jackass sending signed messages to gribble all the time
kanzure: asciilifeform: that sounds awful
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punkman: he used to run that DGC magazine
asciilifeform: kanzure: (no irc client plugins or anything of the kind)
TomServo: Assuming it's the same dude? idk.
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TomServo: Well the name in the qntra post links to: http://www.amazon.com/Philip-Mullan/e/B00IC5R90Y/
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/us-department-of-justice-kim-dotcom-cant-challenge-asset-forfeiture/#comment-1875 << Apparently traffic is not all DDoS and this chan
kanzure: asciilifeform: because i don't want to setup a pgp user agent with my irc client
BingoBoingo: So what brings you around these parts?
gribble: kanzure was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <kanzure> did he claim that his property rights were violated, or that the owner's property rights were violated?
asciilifeform: *or rather, why they do it there vs here
asciilifeform: kanzure, fluffypony, a few others i think
asciilifeform wondered why there, and not here
asciilifeform has been reading it, on and off, because there are two or three thinking folks in there who occasionally discuss maths/crypto
mircea_popescu: i thought that's what you were asking about.
mircea_popescu: copying the voice or w/e.
mircea_popescu: the skism is unavoidable : they don't fit here, and know they don't. they can't admit they're idiots, and so they';re stuck
mircea_popescu: the idiots preexisted. we're the new thing here.
asciilifeform doesn't know the story
asciilifeform: leads to the question of - why the schism
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well if you're gonna copy something, gotta copy the lot neh ?
asciilifeform: ^ that channel appears to be besieged by obnoxious crackpots, and they're starting to talk of #b-a-esque voice controls
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BingoBoingo: It happened a few times all right after making the latest post
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo are you actually seeing it with any sort of frequency ? or was transient ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well if nothing else that advisory thing is useful because it explais how to turn off the idiotic "html texturizing" wp been doing
BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/1TR5XZ9 << Sometimes it works, other times this
punkman: homepage worked though
punkman: that redirected me to http://go.away/
punkman: but not to worry! we can now push code to your WP installation at will!
mircea_popescu: bars moved, an' im sure they're drilling.
asciilifeform: whether nl is colony, they will know when they drill the bars, assuming they do.
BingoBoingo: She said: "This is very disturbing but can you imagine! The author was over 60 and cut his [Pooh's] testicles off with a razor blade because he had a problem with his identity."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: why nl gets to and de not ? <<< because nl is not a fucking ally, and was not defeated in ww2.
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punkman: there's a ton of these shops, wonder how many went under this year
mircea_popescu: punkman it's a luxury thing tho.
mircea_popescu: davout: i wonder if the broken cock dude's friends will visit him in the hospital and write their names on his cast <<< well, mebbe their gfs.
punkman: always found these shops curious, trying to sell furs in a place that doesn't get cold http://www.vossfurs.com/media/1087/Hersonissos1.jpg
mircea_popescu: fwiw the november thing is mostly bull, esp in btc.
mats_cd03: xanthyos: might wanna hold off in the event of waterfall following nov 28
mircea_popescu: might as well be the greater congo masquerading as europe.
mircea_popescu: i suppose what im saying, in the end, is that i absolutely don't see any connection between the noises coming out of europe currently and the european tradition.
punkman: girl worked hotel reception in the summer, all the russians were calling in saying they needed proof vacation was booked before embargo otherwise they weren't allowed to get on plane.
mircea_popescu: why even bother with all the pretense ? if you're going to do THIS sort of thing, why even bother dress ? eat fucking roadkill, go around screaming and tossing garbage, what fucking difference does it make.
mircea_popescu: they keep supposed wives, have what they refer to as their children.