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mircea_popescu: "we punish not for what
they did, but because
they
think
they should be punished"
mircea_popescu: this struck me when i read it because it is an exact reprise of
the scholastics backing
the inquisiton :
mircea_popescu: "We would never strike a student and whether
the software is pirated or not is not
the issue. He denied having
the drive which means he knew he shouldn't have it here
then it was found in his bag so I feel
the punishment is suitable."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this "and
then she lied about it" reminds me of a very particular
thing
that struck me a while back.
mircea_popescu: bagels7 well like
that i can't imagine how you could avoid depression.
undata: asciilifeform: a documentary comes
to mind about
the feds helping a group of black dudes "attempt an act of
terrorism"
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform:
The giving of false
testimony - a crime, seen in Russia as small change - in
the U.S. can lead
to 26 years of prison.
The fact
that, in essence,
the matter concerned a young girl who did not wish
to admit her love affair with a married man, interests no one in
the U.S.
The principle of
the machine is: do it [the crime] - receive. [consequences]
the machine is merciless and incorruptible.'
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 02:05:11; asciilifeform: 'american does not believe
the man in
the uniform
to be a bandit, with whom one can come
to an understanding. he believes him
to be a robot, who must be feared. american law enforcers are able
to, by pressing on
the keyboard of a multitude of laws and regulations, 'transmute'
the most insignificant peccadillo into a monstrous deed. FBI did not need
to beat up Monica or
toss into her purse heroin or am
bagels7: I make cardboard geometric solids, pretty much all of
them, I read crappy news and start crappy arguements with silly opiniated people
undata: "it's hot in here, someone kill
the
thermometer"
undata: mircea_popescu: er um, words. she said certain words
that are apparently very dangerous
undata: as long as we're all clear
that
the US is well into "jailing people for opinions"
territory on
this
mircea_popescu: undata because
the ones
that'd have enough sense for such a
thing long left for isis ?
undata: if we can't handle
them
undata: we might as well just roll over and piss in
the air
mircea_popescu: what is
this bullshit ? i demand equal
trophies given
to men.
undata: mircea_popescu: why is no one embarassed by
this kind of
thing?
mircea_popescu: poor unloved isis, no wonder it's going
to rape
the mdcss in corpore.
mircea_popescu: now
they changed
their
tune, loving
the wrong guys is no longer
the cure.
mircea_popescu: undata it's more amusing
than
that. 50 years ago,
the fucktarded feminists in charge were all about how "love is
the answer
to all problems"
bagels7: I like clean very much and do
the floors almost daily
mircea_popescu: should not get
to confront
the storytelling nature of
their activity.
mircea_popescu: but
the large bulk of pointless idiots
that are
telling
themselves stories
cazalla: mircea_popescu, cause i need another woman
that can't cook or clean?
mircea_popescu: nah but see, not what i mean. obviously
the ones
that are worth
two shits don't need
to find out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
teh old guys are really worried
that
the young guys may find out
that
the young girls are more impressed with isis-ing
than with whatever
the old guys clamor
to be impressing
them.
bagels7: actually he cooks because he likes
to cook, I used
to cook.
mircea_popescu: bagels7 so what do you do, cook and clean ? give head ? sing & play
the harp?
cazalla: <mircea_popescu> cazalla well
they prolly have a point <<< not
that it matters at
this point
bagels7: asciilifeform: no he isn't like
that
bagels7: my boyfriend pays
the rent
mats_cd03: rules of engagement in afghan are more stringent
than
this.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 i
think
the great
theory goes,
that you don't need people who care, or who are competent, or understand anything etc. you just need enough of
them.
mircea_popescu: if you want practice, go
to boring women's
thanksgiving parties.
mthreat: i
think
they did it
to screw with me ;)
mthreat: ya. and funnily enough, i once got a jury summons from
the very court
that convicted me.
mircea_popescu: i don't really
trust mass produced sweets. in house all
the way!
mthreat: i
think so... alfajores everywhere here
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, can't hurt
to inform another million.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, an undisputed and for
that matter indisputable string of caselaw.
mircea_popescu: ”If
the jury feels
the law is unjust, we recognize
the undisputed power of
the jury
to acquit, even if its verdict is contrary
to
the law as given by a judge, and contrary
to
the evidence ... and
the courts must abide by
that decision.“
mircea_popescu: btw,
to help publicise
the most important, and
therefore least well known aspect of
the us justice system :
mircea_popescu: ah if only bitcoin were around in
the 90s, back when greenspan was still in charge.
mircea_popescu: ears in reputable dealings before he could earn a position of
trust sufficient
to induce a number of investors
to place funds with him. Protection of
the consumer by regulation is
thus illusory.”
mircea_popescu: “Regulation - which is based on force and fear - undermines
the moral base of business dealings. It becomes cheaper
to bribe a building inspector
than
to meet his standards of construction. A fly-by-night securities operator can quickly meet all
the S.E.C. requirements, gain
the inference of respectability, and proceed
to fleece
the public. In an unregulated economy,
the operator would have had
to spend a number of y
cazalla: mircea_popescu, what is
that, a biscuit or something?
undata: hah, looks like it was
the 1920s onward
mircea_popescu: i can't begin
to imagine why. all
the good slovak fucks i had were gypsy
undata: jurov:
they did it here (USA) in
the 50s I
think, maybe on into
the 70s
undata: the agreement is just part of
the cheese on
the
trap
undata: cazalla: if I'm in
the position
to consider
the cost of using secret police or something
to get it done, I might
mircea_popescu: if
they should be sterilised, you have no conceivable reason
to seek
their approval.
mircea_popescu: if
they're some people whose agreement you seek,
they shouldn't be sterilised.
undata: I like
the idea of paying people
to agree
to sterilization.
jurov: we can
try
to learn,
that's all
mircea_popescu: jurov in general, so
that most of each generation succumbs
to avoidable causes, and most of
the survivors don't dare speak.
undata: mircea_popescu: seems like poverty's
the best option
undata: mircea_popescu: at its self-licking
task of chewing up
the population
jurov: the filter
to
that goal?
undata: on
the other, it seems
the gulag option
tends
to be... I guess
too damned efficient
undata: on
the one hand I agree; something has
to be
the filter
mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as something still exists for putin
to run over, neither has russia "starved
to death" ?
mircea_popescu: didn't bagels7 just bitch
that her dad didn'g buy her a computer ? im sure he must at some point have bought some grain
too.
jurov: and now he's like "so go
tell lenin what he did wrong, now you have it easy in hindsight"