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undata: asciilifeform: I'd think it depends on how many
asciilifeform: plenty of would-be pilots for the wooden cargo-cult airplane.
Vexual: what do you like about living in the us asciilifeform?
decimation: "While 27 percent of migrating professionals among the sample group chose the U.S. as a destination in 2000, in 2012 just 13 percent did. The decline was seen across professionals with bachelor’s, master’s and doctoral degrees."
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asciilifeform: herr orlov: 'you will know that collapse has happened only when it happens to you.'
asciilifeform: or do they simply 'go gently into that good night' somehow
asciilifeform: undata: the folks 'who do not' - today - are they in a mob? what have they burned?
undata: cazalla: "I'd like to see"
cazalla: undata, you want to avoid this?
undata: I'd like to see what happens when they do not
undata: or better stated, right now the protesters still have somewhere to go home to
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undata: you combine militarized police with a currency crisis, something of that nature, then maybe
Vexual: greeks throw some rocks, yell loug and go home to spill some souvlaki on their bear, let the givt think about it
undata: I think things are going to get ugly here; it's just going to take an economic shock along with
asciilifeform: there was a time before 'well-trained masses' when actual 'pinkertons' has to man actual gatling guns to keep the mob in its proper street
undata: it's not so that the US never had actual protest
undata: asciilifeform: and hell, there were bombings back then
decimation: nor can they imagine anything else exists
undata: don't get me wrong; most of it is limp dicked twitter protest
asciilifeform: not the lizard quarters.
asciilifeform: not to mention ny, detroit, etc
asciilifeform: 60s << there are swaths of dc, even, that are still 'berlin 1945'
Vexual: punkman could getin there and riot the pants off very fool in it
decimation: asciilifeform: if anything, this violence is quite unimpressive compared to the 60's
decimation: asciilifeform: as they say in dc, never waste a good crisis
mircea_popescu: the us wants to be like the uk! and pretend it can riot!
asciilifeform: the notion that a riot in modern usa can happen - and persist - 'naturally' - is horseshit of the first order.
mircea_popescu: <undata> the trend is as asciilifeform describes << how could it not be ? who the fuck ever heard of soviets in soviet russia.
undata: haven't heard a single person say "maybe the cop just lacked trigger discipline and was otherwise a coward"
Vexual: mircea_popescu: If this was planes landing fast in gotham, I could understand the excitement
undata: there's plenty you can't see, but he's just standing there yelling, then on the street dead
undata: there's video of this; I watched it. The guy didn't "charge"
decimation wasn't there, didn't see, can only witness the results
mircea_popescu: <Vexual> yeah, and ive never given negative fuck b4 << im kinda with him on this one.,
decimation: I guess the grand jury heard enough evidence either way
undata: decimation: the guy shouldn't have shot a guy for yelling at him
asciilifeform: what part of 'i do not want to see anything without this word' is hard to understand ?
Vexual: let the rioters decide
undata: decimation: that's not a call a beat cop gets to make
decimation: undata: perhaps those loose 'rules of engagement' were a tacit acknowledgement of reality?
asciilifeform: in the end, gendarmerie 'democratizer' baton will roger black and white alike
decimation: only the 'national guard of the people' can be entrusted with the revolution
undata: the trend is as asciilifeform describes
cazalla: i mean really, the shop owner who he stole from should've done what the cop did
undata: cazalla: I don't care about the individual
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah that's probably true
cazalla: undata, why the sympathy for a nignog that got what he deserved?
asciilifeform: have to be blind, not to see this.
asciilifeform: as is the plan.
undata: decimation: as someone said above, the rules of engagement in afghanistan were stricter
decimation: undata: what weight do you lend to the fact that the guy was a thug who just finished robbing a store?
undata: the cognitive dissonance is the thought that a government that has made its *business* killing innocents would protect some guy gunned down in its own streets
asciilifeform: anyone who thinks this is a 'popular grievance' thing - how many u.s. folks were fucked over in real estate, other chumpatrons? how many of the perpetrators burned?
BingoBoingo: undata: Maybe some of us want both sides to lose?
undata: this government kills people around the world with flying robots
Fergudishu: nubbins`: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bassemmasri that has 85k people watching and a trollbox lmao
nubbins`: it's crazier than the one on jd
decimation: lol that trollbox is gonna explode
nubbins`: apparently the flag isn't supposed to be used as a bandana
undata: that fucking guy can't even squeeze out a statement that has a drop of meaning in it
undata: mircea_popescu: "now now now I know this is a complex and divisive issue..."
asciilifeform is also familiar with the set of people who are paid to hunt all day, every day, for new 'outrages' of the kind required to set up 'a ferguson'
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nubbins`: white male w/ flag bandana wanted for torching cop car
decimation: asciilifeform: of course, you are familiar with that set of people who are 'professional anarchists'
nubbins`: Fergudishu holy fuck there's a trollbox?!?!
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mircea_popescu: i thought obama was the only symbol america needed.
undata: attacking the symbols of merica
decimation: it's traditional that the businesses that cater to the ghetto are the first ones visited with destruction
BingoBoingo: Police seem more concerned with the Walgreens though
mircea_popescu: so is this us engaging in honor-burning of mcdonalds ?
mircea_popescu: rarely they do, but that's ok, because rarely people are worth bothering with
decimation: asciilifeform: this is a set-peice opera, with each side playing their part
mircea_popescu: decimation noi lol, generally they don't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the rats set fire to the lab, what'd you expect they'd burn ? the cages or the files ? ☟︎
decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah, generally people tend to appreciate people who upset their worldview
BingoBoingo: Fire Department/Human Shields en route to Walgreens
nubbins`: leave wendy's until they get rid of the pretzel burge
asciilifeform: funny how nothing but the designated 'kindling' is ever burned up in u.s. riots.
mircea_popescu: one of those few things people can't lie about.
undata: also obvious, I would think
mircea_popescu: decimation this is true, and you can diagnose it in adults by their reaction to minor destabilisation.
mircea_popescu: it's one of those fundamental apis of reality that'd be implemented in all species-language
decimation: "During rough-and-tumble play like this, fathers tend to use playful teasing to “destabilize children both emotionally and cognitively,” which children like—despite the seemingly ominous implications of the word “destabilizing.”"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mechanism is observable in rats and other rodents (where, iirc, sex ratios skew towards males in lean times)
BingoBoingo: Walgreens is now on fire, guessing they already took all of the cool drugs
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, im not quoting the blather.
asciilifeform: wai wat, that was an explanation ?!
mircea_popescu: the mechanism is quite simple : if the males are absent the population is under threat and it must be supported biologically.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the quoted explaination is nonsense.
undata: fascinating that it has some biology behind it though
mircea_popescu: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/ << research that mothers are boring and ineffectual childcarers. and other stuff.
mircea_popescu: wait i thought you were being parodical.
Vexual: i got this
undata: nubbins`: that's his bidness coat
nubbins`: mp srsly there's a cop on the radio giving updates on him
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> drunk man with bottle of absolut heading to scene << lawl.