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jurov: I don't see how shoving
the entire protocol in
the kernel makes sense <<
they don't want unnecessary context switches
mircea_popescu: in spite of having had some good points, mounted on
the chick's chest.
mircea_popescu: the girl gets shoved in and he gets
to stay behind
the rope.
mircea_popescu: it's sort of like
the beta dork showing up with his hot sister at
the exclusive bar.
decimation: I
think
the might have some legitimate points about shortcomings in existing IPC mechanisms, but I don't see how shoving
the entire protocol in
the kernel makes sense
mircea_popescu: it's funny how
they always proceed with
this "chiken can eat
the highway" outlook.
decimation: so now
they are going
to
try
to integrate it as a character device
decimation: apparently integrating DBUS was
tried
twice before and DaveM said "hell no"
decimation: now Greg KH, Kay Sievers and Lennart want
to integrate DBUS into
the kernel (DBUS)
decimation: DCOP was a bus
that KDE used as an IPC layer between GUI programs; DCOP became DBUS
kakobrekla: but i guess everything goes faster on
the second
try
kakobrekla: yes
that one should be first or else you will have
to do
the other 3 again
decimation: I guess
that would imply full moderation
decimation: kakobrekla: what about 'censoring' links from
those who aren't in
the wot?
kuzetsa: (I don't care enough
to discuss
the proxy
thing ... people just keep re-bringing it up and highlighting me in
the process)
kuzetsa: it's not a
trap if shut up
mircea_popescu: there's kinda no way out of
the "i don't want
to pay attention, why don't i understand anything"
trap.
kuzetsa: I've only privmsg'd assbot with
the !up
thinger less
than 10
times
kuzetsa: and I recently wiped my logs so it only goes back a week or
two curently
kuzetsa: I usually don't pay much attention
though
kakobrekla: idk have you been in
this chan before in last few months?
kuzetsa: that seems
to defeat
the purpose of having +m
kuzetsa: I didn't
think anyone in
this channel could post unless
they were at least known in
the -otc WoT
kakobrekla: thats
to be used only when you are following links from unknown people btw
kuzetsa: and I was irked when I saw how many non-youtube scripts hidemyass was
trying
to run :(
kuzetsa: so I couldn't see
the youtube video
kuzetsa: hidemyass wasn't on
the whitelist
kuzetsa: I just use a sane browser
that doesn't run scripts by default
assbot: Logged on 29-11-2014 08:56:36; kuzetsa: I was mostly annoyed because hidemyass.com has some suspicious scripting and a helluvalotta sponsored advertizing, and pingbacks and cookie leakage
to facebook and other social networking sites which I couldn't be arsed
to audit
cazalla: nintendo are releasing eon
tickets across australia on monday, i get
to line up at
the shopping centre with 10 year olds and other dorks just so i can get
the
ticket
to go
to
the island in game and catch a specific pokemon
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa yeah i guess it's way
too web 2.0 for its own good.
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kuzetsa: I default
to assuming something complicated enough
that I can't audit it in under 2 minutes is a bad idea
kuzetsa: I was mostly annoyed because hidemyass.com has some suspicious scripting and a helluvalotta sponsored advertizing, and pingbacks and cookie leakage
to facebook and other social networking sites which I couldn't be arsed
to audit
kuzetsa: I was
totally awake for
the past 5 hours, just not looking at IRC
kuzetsa: and
that's only because I enabled
the nick highlight feature on my IRC client
kuzetsa: [23:00:00] <+mircea_popescu> <kuzetsa> assbot: you're a bad idea << if you'd have read
the logs you'd know
there was some derp in chan earlier dropping links
to leech ips
to ddos people. << mmm, yeah. I barely even notice if someone directly mentions my own nick.
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nubbins`: who
the fuck cares about
the morning?
nubbins`: tbh i want daylight savings
time all year
mats_cd03: all
the more reason
to accumulate fuel for
takeoff
decimation: mats_cd03: unfortunately it seems like
the 'secret police' is often
trotted as a solution
to many of usg's problems
mats_cd03: which is great for
tactical warfighting, but much less suited
to a
task better left for secret police
mats_cd03: and i don't get
the impression
they'd be down with it. american military doctrine encourages autonomy at
the company level in a lot of ways
decimation: I
think
there was a discussion about
this awhile ago. I
think
that if it came
to
this (orders
to fire on
the population somewhere) it would probably
tear
the military apart, or at least damage
the chain of command
mats_cd03: idk about
that, i worked with a fair number of free
thinkers ranging from lower enlisted
to field grade officers
decimation: I'm not so sure myself, but I hope it doesn't come
to
that
decimation: mats_cd03: I know a few folks who believe
that
the regular army would generally have no problem with firing on americans if ordered
to do so
nubbins`: cbc's self-reporting on all
this ghomeshi stuff has been stellar
nubbins`: given
the choice between grabbing a looter and grabbing a new flatscreen...
nubbins`: when else would ya get
the opportunity, i guess
mats_cd03: funny enough, some guardsmen participated in
the looting
nubbins`: when else would ya get
the opportunity, i guess
mats_cd03: kinda controversial, as
the regular army is prohibited from combat operations on american soil afaik (posse comitatus)
mats_cd03: it should be public knowledge by now, i heard rumors about a documentary film about
to be released a year ago, dunno if it materialized
mats_cd03: 02:48:14asciilifeform:usg choppers were supposedly fired upon during 'katrina' << yep, i can confirm
this second hand -- i know a few L.A. guardsmen
that engaged in firefights with looters
thestringpuller: I'm starting
to miss
the cold.
The weather here is whacky. Went from freezing
to spring weather in
the same week last week.
nubbins`: there's a few inches out
there
nubbins`: actually
the first snowfall of
the year
tonight
nubbins`: protip: not every
time zone is offset from UTC by an integer number of hours
thestringpuller: mirc but
then again,
they never wanted
to make a good game ;
they just wanted
to make a game everyone plays << except
that was never
the original plan until activision
took over
mircea_popescu: but
then again,
they never wanted
to make a good game ;
they just wanted
to make a game everyone plays, and pays .
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 i agree,
they had
the most braindamaged administrative approach
mats_cd03: that
too, but
the game had such an enormous player base
that if
the pvp was any good it could be as huge as dota, et al are rite now
cazalla: not really,
the game became more of a social network with socialist participation award
type shit
mats_cd03: minor balance changes fucked everything up, from skill changes, equipment, racials, ... part of
the reason why wow pvp never really caught on as an 'esport' imo
mats_cd03: the variation from season
to season for class compositions made
the game unplayable
cazalla: wow pvp is
the biggest zzz
mats_cd03: for a short
time i played on bg9 in 3s pvp at a high level, ~top 20
teams or so
mircea_popescu: III. Until rock hits sixty at which point rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine
that also beats paper, and would beat scissors, but it can't find scissors, because scissors are invisible. So scissors beat paper and avoid rock, and
that is called balance.
mircea_popescu: II. Paper beats rock. Scissors beat paper. Scissors also happen
to beat rock...
mircea_popescu: decimation> it's 'dead' in
the sense
that
there's apparently no serious alternative
to redhat-salaried developers who 'maintain'
the core of userspace <<< history is
the alternative.
mircea_popescu: i suppose
the only point being proven is
that insecure idiots, low on skills and very high on politicizing are never going
to go away.
mircea_popescu: decimation basically
this systemd is a ms windows of 1990s reboot.
mircea_popescu: and hidemyass is probably
the most used web based proxy