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BingoBoingo: Set it and forget it. None of
that line noise on
the audio jack and nao all of your XML is borked bullshit.
BingoBoingo: MARC reads much more cleanly from
tape reels
mircea_popescu: stuff
the w3c has been doing long after everyone stopped paying attention i guess.
badon: Yeah, we hide most of
that complexity at
the CC, which is saying a lot considering how complicated it is already.
mircea_popescu: "The
technical foundation of
the Semantic Web is given by
the standards RDF - Resource Description Framework (for data description), OWL - Web Ontology Language (for giving
the RDF
terms a formal meaning), and SPARQL - SPARQL Protocol and RDF Query Language (as a query language and protocol)."
badon: A coin you hold in your hand is a specimen. Other coins like it are of
the same
type. When you see one of
them being sold on ebay,
that's a sighting.
badon: They are hierarchical, in
that order.
badon: For example,
there are 3 main kinds of data:
Types, Specimens, and Sightings.
mircea_popescu: afaik it copies wikipedia even
to
the "need donation" point. i really can't discern any structural difference ?
badon: Wikipedia is incapable of handling
the computing demands.
badon: Because it's not an alternative
to Wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: so basically you're doing a wikipedia alt-chain, got raped for
the one-blockchain reason and are now
trying
to make it work in a private fantasy world.
badon: It's really hard
to predict how people will use
the CC's data.
badon: I'm getting asked
this more often.
badon: I should really keep a handy
thing of usage examples.
badon: "External" people (as you say) can request an account of course. We watch what
they do carefully, and I'm planning on creating a class of users
that can only edit info, not add more pages. It's much easier
to fix mistakes on otherwise correctly entered data.
badon: So,
the CC has a professional data entry
team now.
badon: No,
that was
the original plan, but it failed because it's
too complicated, and
there's
too much data
that can easily become a problem if it's not correctly entered.
mircea_popescu: so
the site will work well if a lot of people external
to it put a lot of work into doing
things in a certain way it prescribes for
their benefit ?
badon: So, ordinary $5 bills don't get
tracked.
badon: In practice,
the CC only
tracks what people
think is important enough
to enter into
the CC.
badon: Well, actually,
the CC can
track a single bill by its serial number.
badon: haha, something like
that.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like
that five dollar bill novelty website or w/e it was where people kept writing on dollars ?
badon: For example, each coin known
to
the CC can be
tracked on its journey
through
time and space.
badon: I plan on giving people access
to it via a browser plugin, so it will automatically show interesting data about something whenever you're looking at it.
mircea_popescu: well no, if you make an engine and i ask "show me
the part
that'll make me grok wtf
this is" you don't wanna show a leaflet.
badon: It's big and complex, as one of
the largest wikis in
the world.
badon: I hope
that's good, but I really don't know since I haven't gotten any feedback about it yet.
badon: mircea_popescu: Hmm, OK, let me
think for a bit about
that. Maybe you could read
the Fundly description?
badon: mircea_popescu: I used my silver (and palladium, etc) profits
to fund investments in rare modern Chinese coins, which I'm still doing.
badon: mircea_popescu: It's sort of a comprehensive market database. It contains lots of fine-grained data, and it's also able
to give a more general overview.
mircea_popescu: "The Coin Compendium needs your financial support
to remain in operation for
the month of December 2014! Other ways you can help: Donate images."
badon: punkman: It was pretty obscure until a few months ago, so I'm still reacting with surprise when people ask me about it out of
the blue.
punkman: badon, I've come across coincompendium a couple
times, is
that your
thing?
mircea_popescu: badon
this chan is
the public forum of a new power in
the world, ie,
the people who have been made immensely rich by bitcoin and are slowly but surely
taking over
the world.
badon: I'm still here because I'm
trying
to figure out what
this chan is about :)
assbot: Logged on 09-10-2013 03:46:03; mircea_popescu: i am amused at
the noobs
that still don't grasp why
their average bitcoin lifespan is less
than a year.
mircea_popescu: stupid ass paradigm wherein business has come
to mean "serving consumers" and obviously
then
the consumerness of individual people has
to be "supported" by
the state, and soon enough you've got an anthill being built want it or not.
mircea_popescu: leia*. for some reason i keep conflating her with
the dog.
mircea_popescu: or
the idea
that what "consumers" "have come
to expect" is relevant in any discussion of anything nonfiction anymore
than princess leila's opinion would be.
mircea_popescu: like
the idea
that people may be "consumers" anymore
than
they may be martians,
mircea_popescu: bitcoin wants
to entirely destroy
the
things crap such as mastercard even stands on,
mircea_popescu: this needs
to be broken. it's not "o noes, bitcoin wants
to replace mastercard with itself". nothing like
that.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: "Currently, digital currencies lack
the basic protections consumers have come
to expect when
transacting online " << because what
the "consumer" has "come
to expect" is
the fucking alpha and omega of
the perceptible universe.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu:
training wheels on a function wave? <<< yeah, you know, help you find it exists.
assbot: Project Longstrike Launches While Australian Citizen Extradited
To United States Over Silk Road Charges | Qntra.net ... (
http://bit.ly/1HTZCcr )
cazalla: ben_vulpes,
that's dated nov 13th, bit old by now, must've missed it at
the
time
assbot: Logged on 22-09-2014 04:33:40; asciilifeform: switching caps lock and ctrl << 'Emacs actually comes with a builting Emacs Aptitude
Test. Do you remap your keyboard or
the Emacs keybindings before
the chords and sequences it comes with by default have wreaked havoc with your hands? If you do not do anything
to make Emacs more convenient for yourself, you may not have
the prerequisite aptitude
to use it productive.' (naggum, who else.
http://www. BingoBoingo: Don't worry, retire has plenty of
time for you
too.
decimation: it's
time for me
to retire, good evening gentlemen
ben_vulpes: what are
the different meanings available?
ben_vulpes: how much
time do you spend
typing, asciilifeform ?
mats_cd03: you'll change your mind after a little carpal
tunnel
ben_vulpes: i'll pass on
this particular electric fence.
decimation: asciilifeform: actually, you have emphasized
the 'language coprocessor' feature of
the brain in
the past - perhaps
the best interface is a reliable speech-to-symbol synth
decimation: actually if we want
to go farther, an interface
that examines very fine, high speed eye movements might be a high-speed method of precise data entry
decimation: your digits/arms are meant
to operate against resistance
decimation: 'minority report' interface would still have
the gorilla arm problem, as it was demonstrated in
the movie, but in
theory one could devise an armrest of some kind
ben_vulpes: consider
the oculus rift. instead of inertial sensors, uses rangefinders/radars
to perform orientation analysis and also map surroundings in real
time.
decimation: asciilifeform: my 'glove' idea was really a robot hand
that would gently connect above your hand,
to provide 'feedback' - but I agree
that 'spring-like' action would be very difficult/expensive
ben_vulpes: an example, if you will. not
the ideal, but an example.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what doesn't work? resolution? speed?
the whole not being a phased array and so incapable of reconstructing 3d?
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 17:34:30; asciilifeform: 'some learn from book; others, from example;
the rest must piss on
the electric fence personally'
thestringpuller: 'pissing on
the electric fence himselfi
think someone died from
ben_vulpes: that
the "computer" i haul everywhere cannot make a realtime 3d model of its surroundings is hilarious.
ben_vulpes: sounds like a bad engineering decision with small radar modules in
the pipeline.
ben_vulpes: pm if you have questions. more
than happy
to lend a hand.
ben_vulpes: obviously
there are subtleties with static assets, but you get
the gist.