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xanthyos: waht's up with the ddos bot?
jurov: hafta convert them to a+bi anyway
xanthyos: you can think of all numbers as having +bi but if b = 0 it doesn't matter
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jurov: http://bitbet.us/bet/867/ haha another reason for x.eur to move to continuous trading, just to screw with this
jurov: <adlai> slight tangent (from reading about impedance) - why on earth are complex numbers introduced as a+bi << easy addition and multiplication?
jurov: okay, now i have this off my mind
davout: well, time will tell
jurov: coinbr has state machine to compensate for it complicated enough already
jurov: well.. it's up to mircea. i doubt he ever does anything about this stateless, eventually-consistent wankfest of his.
davout: yes, continuous trading seems so much simpler, not sure if there's a blocker i'm missing tho
jurov: i wrote clearly how i intend to solve it. x.eur would just not trade in interval when such behavior is expected.
davout: what you're reeling about is coinbr's inability to cleanly detect the gap, whether that's for mpex or coinbr to solve is another question
jurov: continuos trading without balaces mysteriously on/off would the best solution in my view
jurov: you see - i'm reeling about the first one
davout: or do continuous trading
xanthyos: davout: i'm not supposed to talk about that anymore. started to annoy ppl
davout: jurov: either de-automate the first step
davout: xanthyos getting it !up, that's good news
xanthyos: life's more exciting with a coinbase progress bar in one of my browser tabs
davout: which creates a trading gap unless everyone is perfectly synchronized
jurov: and why's that a problem? french ppl u no have hard deadlines?
davout: it's not that i dislike it, it's just that i point out that it creates a hard deadline for everyone
jurov: if it changes to other fixed time, i'm okay with it
jurov: you don't like the 15th 12:00 GMT, you want to change it, no?
jurov: and there's nothing in STATJSON output to indicate it
jurov: that X.EUR is to disappear and reappear at any indeterminate time
xanthyos: coinbase makes it too easy! i thought they'd at least slow me down with a 2 factor phone auth
nubbins`: otherwise your article quality's going down the shitter
adlai: nubbins`: yes, but it could ignore text within blockquote tags
nubbins`: jurov iirc (and i could be wrong), qntra pays the way dickens' publisher paid
adlai: kakobrekla: what's type:11 ?
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021745 B (Total: 475.53 B). Delta: 0.52 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000195 BTC [-]
adlai: would've been nicer with &symbol= and push notifications and a unicorn pony but i'll settle for this :)
adlai: kakobrekla: thx
mike_c: jurov, you still market making mpif? it seems the bids are below bounds (which I thought was +- 5%).
adlai: the impression I get from lurking around here is that there aren't concrete plans for another profit center, but if one arose, it would be welcomed
artifexd: And there hasn't been much talk of MPIF lately. I'm in an information vacuum, so to speak.
artifexd: I'm just trying to make a decision to sell what I have, buy more, or wait some more.
artifexd: If I had any to offer, yes. Alas, no.
adlai: artifexd: are you planning to offer any?
assbot: MPEx (@MPEx1) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1tIBTBr )
adlai: https://twitter.com/mpex1 also seems a little dead. tsk tsk, need to clean up the dead links!
artifexd: Are there any plans for new profit centers in MPIF?
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 19:56:00; mircea_popescu: kuzetsa ah i think you gotta pay kako for access to that ?
adlai: aha, shouldn't http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2014#772915 be mentioned in the FAQ? ☝︎
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jurov: what's with the submissions to qntra containing lengthy documents verbatim?
kakobrekla: >Global Advisors, a firm based in Jersey that manages the first regulated bitcoin fund, has been served notice by its bank, HSBC.
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nubbins`: should know for sure in the next couple days
nubbins`: ah yes, ty, i may have it covered
asciilifeform: thank you assbot, saving my leaf springs the wear!
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2014 03:31:14; asciilifeform: and that a circus weight-lifter isn't the least bit strong, because perhaps my arse muscle is stronger yet than his biceps
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2014 03:30:52; asciilifeform: how come we never hear anyone arguing that there is no such thing as 'strength'
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2014 17:02:37; mircea_popescu: something like that. so one night while in here, i see movement in the corner of my eye
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2014 03:29:22; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, just watch people respond to stimuli.
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2014#870297 < this seems intuitive to me, but I guess that backs up my intuition ☝︎
asciilifeform: but one can see how a medic may be tempted
mircea_popescu: moreover, trying to pursue a "science of health" is the hallmark of pseudoscientific cockery.
asciilifeform: we don't have a 'science of intelligence' any more than medicine has a 'science of health'
adlai: maybe a bit more than ten minutes
mircea_popescu: same way carnies pick out their marks, it's nothing novel.
adlai is wondering how mircea_popescu judges intelligence based on eye movement... it seems very dependant upon the setting
asciilifeform: adlai: see thread from ten minutes or so ago.
asciilifeform: anyway - who wants to turn it into a science, i just threw in a freebie - physically testable hypothesis.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, i don't call this a science.
adlai: bricklisp simply doesn't detract from the intelligence of whoever is using it, like "rubber duck debugging"
mircea_popescu: as i said, all sorts of heuristics can be useful. i tend to not pursue relations with the intellectually slow, which i often judge in seconds on simple cues such as eye movement.
asciilifeform: we are roughly in the position of the ancients who tried to explain why certain objects are flammable while others - not
mircea_popescu: so then it's not a definition.
adlai: aha, bricklisp proves that !stupid ≠ intelligent
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mircea_popescu: adlai because they're not introduced by intelligent people./
adlai: slight tangent (from reading about impedance) - why on earth are complex numbers introduced as a+bi when (magnitude,phase) is an infinitely more INTELLIGENT way of understanding them?
asciilifeform: an axon is a... transmission line.
mircea_popescu: but i don't see anything in it past that.
asciilifeform: that's simply 'upping the clock'
mircea_popescu: well they all fire lol
asciilifeform: probably measurable via purely physical means if we knew what to look for (ask a network engineer how he measures echos on lines)
mircea_popescu: so the best way to be intelligent is doing speedballs ?
asciilifeform: that's my personal hypothesis, incidentally. handily predictive of the reaction time correlation.
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2014 03:24:29; asciilifeform: Adlai: if i recall, hypothesis involves impedance matching - same reason folks with damaged myelin sheaths lose theirs.
mircea_popescu: adlai ah, this isn't an argument against such stuff. sure, reaction time is even a good proxy for things you may care about,
mircea_popescu: it's that endeavour where anything can be a principle.
adlai: chasing "intelligence" might be pseudoscience but you can get relevant results by studying well-defined attributes (eg reaction time)
mircea_popescu: a pseudoscience isn't that endeavour lcking principles,
mircea_popescu: whatever you want them to be.
asciilifeform: and the immediate engineering applications of being able to distinguish folks into rough equivalence classes of stupidity by purely mechanical means - are there.
mircea_popescu: yes. there are. you know what they are ?
asciilifeform: but there are underlying principles.
mircea_popescu: belongs as a subset obscure philosophy, right there with aesthetics.
adlai: lol right there in Eysenck's bio... "Definition of Intelligence"
mircea_popescu: anyway. i think it's pseudoscience, the whole lot of it.
adlai: that's because they're using intuition instead of intelligence
mircea_popescu: and in particular attempts to define intelligence in terms of statistical fitting and survivability yield monsters
mircea_popescu: adlai that sexual selection exists is very poor grounding to claim beauty.
mircea_popescu: perhaps, but the label of magnetism is at least applied on some sort of interaction that yields a force.
adlai: ie, at any one point in time, for a given population, you can measure "beauty"
asciilifeform: tell that to an architect