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decimation: "The way you
talk about superintelligence reminds me a lot about how medieval
theologians
talked about God. It's unbounded. It can do anything. Except maybe created a rock so heavy it can't move it. Has anyone ever made
that observation
to you, and what's your reaction
to
that? Guest: I
think you might be
the first, at least
that I can remember. Russ: Hmmm."
assbot: Logged on 11-04-2014 11:50:41; Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu would retort with "who
the fuck wants
to fuck stupid people"
mircea_popescu: yes, but because of networking effects
this isn't useful.
mircea_popescu: TomServo
the
theory is
that you don't get
that advanced human in any unverse
that doesn't include beating as a possibility.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what's more insulting
than
the plain declaration
that "[i really don't care enough about you
to be bothered
to] ever beat you"
mircea_popescu: it's like
the nukes exactly. kids
that know
they can't EVER get in
trouble grow up with various mental illnesses. kids
that grow up knowing
they could easily get in
trouble grow up fine, and generally don't need
to be beaten either.
mircea_popescu: TomServo such wives exist only in a world where people are WILLING
TO slap
them.
decimation: TomServo: why would you want
to neglect her/.
TomServo: But shouldn't a citizen also be capable of finding a wife
that doesn't require a sucker punch?
kakobrekla: non-deterministic < better
to stream comments
to #b-a and harness
the power of
trolls
TomServo: I like
the cops with no guns, find a citizen approach.
mircea_popescu: why shouldn't people who want
to stay outside of scrutiny be able
to ?
adlai: when
there's a deterministic profile for further scrutiny (public announcement of
the bet in-channel),
those who specifically wish
to minimize scrutiny will stay just outside
the profile. what if we make it non-deterministic?
mircea_popescu: no us citizen alive
today is willing
to sucker punch
the wife if she
talks back
decimation: now
the situation is reversed, and citizens must ask police
to wield guns.
This confusion is at
the root of much of what is wrong with usg.
decimation: re: only citizens could carry guns <<
that's a very good idea, and probably very close
to what
the 'founding fathers' had in mind
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TomServo: I've drank
too much #b-a koolaid and find myself having
to piss on co-workers' msft/goog/appl wankfests.
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cazalla: BlueMeanie4: yep pretty sad, you can read about what is underneath on 4chan/pol/ <<< in hindsight, /pol/ was a short stop otw
to #b-a, once i began
to put in more
time here, i pretty much stopped putting in any
time at /pol/
mircea_popescu: actually kinda funny what hoover had
to say abgout getting off gold.
undata: hilarious picture
though
undata: BlueMeanie4:
that it lacks
that form of cancer does not mean it lacks cancer
undata: I don't see how
that's better
undata: argentina might have some
things
to say
there as well
BlueMeanie4: any advice from Romania on how
to survive economic collapse and govt
takeover?
undata: times
to wait and squirel away nuts
undata: "domestic
terrorism" redefined as any sort of anti-federal
thing
undata: arguably
this domestic
terrorism
thing has been
there in
the US since
the start
undata: so
they've been getting
this stuff ready
BlueMeanie4: they are anticipating
things getting out of control
undata: right,
they know full well
that
the economic system is a sham, and is going
to implode
BlueMeanie4: he already clearly violates
the Constitution
undata: one could see lots of
the "antiterrorism" stuff as prepping for a civil war
BlueMeanie4: right and
the feds will label
them domestic
terrorists
undata: that could be
the new
thing, "domestic
terrorism" vs
the federal system
BlueMeanie4: then
theyll start
taxing everyone like crazy
undata: somebody rides in
to "save
the union"
undata: yeah, say
there's a large economic collapse and
the federal system starts
to deteriorate
undata: BlueMeanie4: gun control, but
they also ship people around so
they don't have a group
that's entirely from one state
BlueMeanie4: i live in a red state, generally stay away from
the blue areas
undata: BlueMeanie4: I'm actually from
there
BlueMeanie4: the concept of
the average
Texan is miles apart from where Obama is
taking
the US
undata: the military
though
takes steps
to avoid a state having its own state-sized chunk of military
undata: BlueMeanie4: and being coerced back in, I'd
think
BlueMeanie4: i can def. see some states just dropping out of
this
undata: worldwide empire reduced
to economic crater
mircea_popescu: it's
their
thoroughly debased and humiliated sons an' daughters
that get
the hitler.
mircea_popescu: those generally go fight in
the
trenches for five years.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's not generally peoples wanting
their "standard of living being preserved"
that end up with hitler.
BlueMeanie4: because
the asshats will DEMAND
their 'standard of living' be preserved
mircea_popescu: <undata> making pizzas << aaaand whose brilliant idea is
that "we don't need industry, we can grow rich by doing each other's laundry" ?
undata: the most recent generation is wasting away in
the service industry
undata: BlueMeanie4: less and less of
that with
the economy as it is
BlueMeanie4: they have no real concept of how
the world works
mircea_popescu: so.. yeah,
this "police will protect us"
thing is going
to last what, another year or
two.
undata: "it's real if it's
twatted"
BlueMeanie4: ya
the 'hipster' set is clearly a major part of
the problem
BlueMeanie4: oh sure Romania is probably safer
than NYC, certianly safer
than NYC with no police
BingoBoingo: "They should make Kalashnikov Mobile phones.. With high level of rugged-ness
to be used in
the harsher parts of
the world..."
mircea_popescu: the us... heck,
they're so fucking cowardly you can piss in
their face and
they'll likely limit
themselves
to complaining sottovoce.
BlueMeanie4: undata- oh ya , we call
them
Trustafarians
undata: BlueMeanie4: I recall some "livestreamer" of
the PDX "protest" calling
them pigs,
then chatting up a girl
BlueMeanie4: there isnt
the
the underlying urge
to robe your neighbor
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 let me
tell you something.
they got bums everwhere here. one night, one prolly drunk dude got rambunctious and started yelling.
BlueMeanie4: its really nothing like e. europe,
there are underlying
tensions
that you just dont have in a place like Romania
BlueMeanie4: tis
the most immature deluded nonsense you can imagine